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Old 07-17-2003, 06:55 PM
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Marijuana

How are people's stances on the reefer? Do you smoke the wacky tabacky, and think it should be legalized? Do you not prefer it, but still think it should be legalized? Or are you completley against it and think any minor offender should be thrown into a cell?

I fall in the first. Ill tell you why..

I go to college. Weed and alcohol are in abundance. I did some of both. Heres what i found.

Alcohol: get drunk, lose inhibitions, get stupid, hurt thyself, puke, wake up next morning sick as a dog with the worst hangover, clean up mess left by other drinkers. Maybe get alcohol poisioning and go to the hospital.

Grass: Smoke up, get giggly for a bit, then relax. Still have total control over all motor skills. No puking, no hangover, the next day im good as new, as if i handn't even smoked. And there's no such thing as THC poisoning.

When I first tried it i felt scared and guilty, but I realized this was only because of the anti-marijuana propaganda was working in my head. As soon as i realized that its better than alcohol, i dropped the drinking and preferred smoking.

Not to say im a totall dope head, its only on occasion that i smoke. But put a bottle of Jack in front of me, or a freshly rolles spliff, you know what I'm gonna choose.

Now I want to hear YOUR thoughts on this plant. Do you, or not? Why or why not? Please no flames, theres no need. I honestly want to know why people think its soooo bad and evil when, at least in my opinion, its a much safer than the age old alcohol? I bring this thread up at this risk of my own reputation becasue i really want to know.

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Old 07-17-2003, 07:17 PM
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I look at it as hey, if someone wants to smoke it, who cares? Let em, it's their business, not mine, nor anyone elses. Though I do believe that selling it should be punished, just not a lot of time in the slammer. At times Ive wondered what it would be like if marijuana were legal, because if it were legal, would we have dealers of it in jail for selling their friend a dime bag? nope. It would be the same as tobacco, an age limit that is carded.
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Im definetly pro-MJ. So much better the alcohol, you'll agree if you've tried it.

How do you like these BS anti commercials on TV now. The one with the kids playing with the gun-YEAH OK, its doesnt fuckin alter you like that, well maybe some White Widow on a first timer, but I doubt it.

How about the one where the guy killed his little brother because he was driving under the influence of MJ. Yeah, they didn't tell you he had three 40oz before the the J.

Or the one where the girl passes out and the guy starts feeling her up. I think that the date rape drug, not MJ.

Legal, maybe in 20 years when the younger generation is in power. There not just gonna give in and make it legal, admitting to defeat after billions spent on battling it.

"Home of the free" yeah fucking right. Legal almost everywhere, maybe not legal, but your not going to prison for 3oz anywhere but here. And how about our health care system? Greatest country in the world and look what a fucking joke that is.
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Old 07-17-2003, 08:24 PM
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Haven't done it regularly or recently, but next week is another matter

Definately pro. Will be legalized as soon as the goernments that be find a way to tax the f*ck out of it.
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Old 07-17-2003, 09:12 PM
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girl falls asleep and guy feels her up?! LOL!! yeah, it makes you sleepy, but not go unconsious. Jeez. And if the guy was smokin, he was prolly too high to care. I know that when im high, i can't think aobut sex for more than aobut 5 seconds before i see something else interesting... like a table.. and start thinking aobut that.

Man, even if they taxed the hell out of it, imagine... 10 bux for an eighth, of gov't stuff, so you know its potent. hell yeah.

I heard that marlboro even has patents to mary-j cig's in a box for when it gets legalized.
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I don't care for. I don't care whether it ever gets legalized or not. I'm all ready too far off in the distance - I spent half an hour thinking about what'd happen if somebody made a sponge big enough to absorb the entire universe, so they could control it... then I fell asleep behind a chair in the living room.
I think it also has a detrimental effect on one's personality. People say that it doesn't change you, but they're wrong. I won't do it. But if somebody else does it, and it doesn't affect me, I don't care let them do it.
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I don't care for. I don't care whether it ever gets legalized or not. I'm all ready too far off in the distance - I spent half an hour thinking about what'd happen if somebody made a sponge big enough to absorb the entire universe, so they could control it... then I fell asleep behind a chair in the living room.



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Old 07-17-2003, 10:38 PM
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i agree with the yugo master....i personally don't do it...i prefer to have fun other ways....adrenalin rushes during autox couses....the relaxation of readin a book or watching a movie etc.....but to each his own....i think its a personal decision.....


i also agree with him that even though its a weak drug it will affect you in the long term....any drug will....even over the counter sleeping pills will affect you in the long term so you should be very careful using it
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I don't smoke anything and I do not get drunk either. Oh, I'll have a couple bottles beer from time to time, but I just don't want to lose self control via mind altering drugs.

I do not care if marijuana were legalized. I would just like to see the same rules on it as alcohol - no minors (over 18 or 21 or whatever age its set at) and if you are caught driving under the influence you are punished.

That brings me to another point. Punishment. There should be ZERO tolerance for anyone who drives their car under the influence of any drug. Cut that license up and don’t let them get it back for at least a year on the first offence. If they do it again – never get it back.

Businesses should be given the same power to fire your ass if you show up stoned just like they can if you show up drunk (you – does not mean anyone here).

Lastly, I never understood the need to smoke that crap, but if its what floats your boat and you don’t mind you brain getting altered irreparably, then be my guest. Smoke that shit. Just don’t blow it my way.













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That brings me to another point. Punishment. There should be ZERO tolerance for anyone who drives their car under the influence of any drug. Cut that license up and don’t let them get it back for at least a year on the first offence. If they do it again – never get it back.

i agree
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Businesses should be given the same power to fire your ass if you show up stoned just like they can if you show up drunk (you – does not mean anyone here).

Well here in Texas, it is a right to work state. Which means the employer can fire your ass for anything he/she feels like is detrometal to the well being of the company. So if your stoned at work the company has a right to fire you.
Although my wife who is a manager says that she wont fire anyone till she acually catches them doing it on company ground.

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Although my wife who is a manager says that she wont fire anyone till she acually catches them doing it on company ground.

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so has he fired you yet?
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Against.

It has been proven that it leads onto harder drugs such as methamptamine. Besides, its illegal, which is good enough for me.

Its not my business if anyone wants to smoke it, unless you smoke it either near me or in front of me. Then it becomes my business.
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"It has been proven to lead to harder drugs" Yeah, you believe everything that 'government testing' says.

I'd say its more comparable to the most popular legal drug, alcohol. Yet its totally different, no where near as bad I guess.

Alcohol makes you rude, annoying, angry and loud; sometimes blackouts.
Pot makes you happy, curious, accute, and friendly; sometimes sleepy.
Alcohol causes nausea, and headaches the next morning.
Pot sometimes causes dizzyness for a few hours the next morning.
Alcohol costs from 6 to 12$ for a buzz.
Pot costs from 5 to 10$ for a buzz.
Alcohol has calories(beer) unless drank as straight liquor.
Pot can give you the munchies.
Alcohol can be overdosed.
Pot cannot be overdosed.
Alcohol causes liver damage and kills brain cells; a weak poison.
Pot can cause lung damage.
Alcohol causes around 150,000 deaths per year, not counting murder.
Pot by itself has never caused a death.
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You're forgetting that after a long period of time, pot makes you stupid, lethargic and destroys your personality.

BTW, your pot propaganda was pretty funny.
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