God's Will VS. God's Percieved Will.

[YogsVR4]

I'm Catholic. I've read the King James version. Trust me - there is no chapter that has God getting pissed. Dissapointed, yes. Pissed, no.

[zombiesarebad]

to me it seems that you are saying that ethics should be thrown out the window because anything God does not want to happen, he would stop it by making sure we could not make decisions

[sivic02]

The "smarter bone" thing was me being a pig and saying that men are smarter than women. The "god getting pissed" didnt mean he was furious and started throwing crap around, what i ment was that he wasnt happy with what happened. I just put it into my own words. Dont take everything soo seriously.
Also I dont have a bible handy so I cant give you specifics but these things should be in Genesis.

[dirtydx]

god doesnt have a will... but we do, and we are using it with great stupidity. The bible and religion have the purpose of controlling people, why you might ask?

Every one of our actions has an effect on our planet.

But we are much too stupid to realize that, aren't we.

As people in this day and age have no control, and do whatever the hell they want, the world is becoming an unhealthy place. Look in the news, its pretty obvious how sick we are becoming. Look at the images on TV, everything pushes harder at the "shock" value. People obsessed with living purely materialistic lifestyles, why is the mall still packed AFTER Christmas? All this is adding up to one MAJOR shitstorm, we all know, but who actually cares?

how can anyone actually have the nerve to sit on their fat-ass and proclaim gods will? fuck you, who do u think u are? You're a nobody just like me, deal with it.

[sivic02]

I agree with dirtydx in the fact that we are all just running around until we blow up! Every bit of energy that is used(not just electricity but every reaction on a cellular lever contributes to this) is plunging us closer and closer to entropy! Then the universe gets to be happy and uniform once again.

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by sivic02

The "smarter bone" thing was me being a pig and saying that men are smarter than women. The "god getting pissed" didnt mean he was furious and started throwing crap around, what i ment was that he wasnt happy with what happened. I just put it into my own words. Dont take everything soo seriously.

I understand.(laymens terms) Anyway...One thing you said I don't understand. You eluded to the idea that God didn't care anymore and gave up on us. "you can all go to hell for all I care" (something like that).
Is that what you believe?

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by dirtydx

god doesnt have a will... but we do,

God has a will.

and we are using it with great stupidity.

I agree. We do some pretty stupid things most of the time.

The bible and religion have the purpose of controlling people, why you might ask?

I don't know if that is the purpose of them but a lot of people do let themselves get too controlled by religion. I guess people just want some guidence because they have a hard time sorting out the good from the bad anymore.

Every one of our actions has an effect on our planet.

Totally agree.

But we are much too stupid to realize that, aren't we.

Too stupid or too greedy? I think we know it but don't care because we want that instant satisfaction.(just as you say in the next sentence.)

As people in this day and age have no control, and do whatever the hell they want, the world is becoming an unhealthy place. Look in the news, its pretty obvious how sick we are becoming. Look at the images on TV, everything pushes harder at the "shock" value. People obsessed with living purely materialistic lifestyles, why is the mall still packed AFTER Christmas? All this is adding up to one MAJOR shitstorm, we all know, but who actually cares?

True.

how can anyone actually have the nerve to sit on their fat-ass and proclaim gods will? fuck you, who do u think u are? You're a nobody just like me, deal with it.

1. Are you refering to me or Christians in general? (must be Christians in general because I'm not fat)
2. I am nobody just like you? I am sombody just like you.

[sivic02]

I dont believe that god gave up on us, what i was refering to was how before eve ate the apple everyone would have gone to heaven. However after she ate it then god decided that if you sin you dont go to heaven. Or something along those lines.

[dirtydx]

Originally Posted by DGB454

1. Are you refering to me or Christians in general? (must be Christians in general because I'm not fat)
2. I am nobody just like you? I am sombody just like you.

1. Sorry, was a dumb thing to say.
2. I think that if everyone keeps striving to be a somebody, the pain in the world will never end. Somebody wants everything life can offer, somebody wants to be known, somebody wants to push the limit, somebody wants to be immortal. 6 billion people striving for this image is unhealthy in a world where we only need each other.