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Old 12-19-2004, 10:42 PM
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Re: Re: Is it time for a revolution?

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So what about us who have liberal views on certain things, and conservative views on others? Are we doomed to get swept away in this political hogwash bullshit? I'm afraid we know the answer to that.

I wish i could start my own country for the moderates. Let the radicals continute to fuck things up here.
But the part people don't seem to understand is that 85% of people are moderate and that is the basis of both the Dems and Reps. They are moderate parties! The only people that aren't moderates are the ones that protest constantly for one specific idea or view of the US like communism or socialism. Those are the types of people that are considered political activists. The radicals are in the minority, but they get their message across in one of two ways

1. Their message attracts public attention through their protesting and enough people soon back it = the idea is passed.

2. Their message attracts public attention, but the ideological group fades, but since Reps and Dems are concerned only w/ who gets the most votes, the idea is taken and put on their list of ideas. They have to do this in order to be an "all encompassing" party.
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People saying they'd rather live in Italy or where they see fit instead of living in the good old U. S. of A.!?! You people aren't Alec Baldwin are you?
I don't see anything wrong with it. I don't fully agree with the way Canada is run and the direction in which it's heading, so I've actually already booked a flight out of here. Just because I was born here doesn't mean I need to stand behind it.

In fact, I urge everyone to question and evaluate their country, past, present, and predicted future. To become complacent about your country is one of the worst things imaginable, and just leads to people "knowing" they're better than other countries.
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Re: Is it time for a revolution?

Well said Heep.

As far as the American voting system - add a third possibility to the ballot: None of the above. If none of the above wins, then start over with new guys.

(Thanks to "Brewster's Millions" for the idea.)
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As far as the American voting system - add a third possibility to the ballot: None of the above. If none of the above wins, then start over with new guys.


I love it! "None of the above, ever. Give me some new choices."
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Re: Is it time for a revolution?

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People saying they'd rather live in Italy or where they see fit instead of living in the good old U. S. of A.!?! You people aren't Alec Baldwin are you?
what is your point? america isnt anything like what it use to be... the lack of freedom is suprising... and depressing... i would much rather live in a country that doesnt give you a flase pretense of security and freedom than live in a country that puts out propaganda that there is freedom and security, wouldnt you wonder what they were going to start doing next?
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what is your point? america isnt anything like what it use to be... the lack of freedom is suprising... and depressing... i would much rather live in a country that doesnt give you a flase pretense of security and freedom than live in a country that puts out propaganda that there is freedom and security, wouldnt you wonder what they were going to start doing next?
I don't really have a point to this. I'm just saying that everybody saying "I'm leaving this country" reminds me of what Alec Baldwin said back in 2000.

I must ask you though what "lack of freedom", "false sense of security", and "propaganda of freedome and security" you are talking about. I'd like for you to give me some examples if you don't mind.
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Re: Is it time for a revolution?

I must ask you though what "lack of freedom", "false sense of security", and "propaganda of freedome and security" you are talking about. I'd like for you to give me some examples if you don't mind.[/quote]

Lack of freedom-H.R. 4079&FEMA-this bill gives FEMA the right to take over local,state,and federal government during any emergency that might conceivably occur. This means that the Constition could be suspended. Also, theres a clause that would eliminate the 4th&8th amendments.(H.R 4079 might be called S.B. 2834)

The Anti-Drug Act-Courts decide on some mass searches/drug test(could mean the search of every person in a city)

The gun registration law-All guns&licenses must be registard, thus allowing the government where every gun is, incase they decide to make this void-No more 2nd amendment

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