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Old 02-27-2004, 12:26 AM
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the person obviousley had to be driving like a complete jack-ass in order to fuck up a car that badly...so maybe it's a good thing that's he's off the road now?

why do all these nice new cars (SRT-4's, EVO's etc.) get sold to all these fan-boys who just go and wreck them right away by driving like a fucking maniac? there should be a screening process...
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Re: Just another bashed EVO

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the person obviousley had to be driving like a complete jack-ass in order to fuck up a car that badly...so maybe it's a good thing that's he's off the road now?

why do all these nice new cars (SRT-4's, EVO's etc.) get sold to all these fan-boys who just go and wreck them right away by driving like a fucking maniac? there should be a screening process...


well you never know if it was his fault or not.


But you are right, too many kids with not enough driving experiece buy those cars and cannot control them.
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Re: Just another bashed EVO

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HOT DAMN!!!!!

i don't know what's worse, thinking of the person who crashed the Evo, or the Evo itself
errr... I'd say the person most likely died... whats the bigger loss, a person, or a lump of metal? hmmm..

we dont know how the accident happened, it could have been his fault, could have been someone else's...
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Re: Just another bashed EVO

that evo is fucked
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Re: Just another bashed EVO

In my opinion, it would be VERY hard for the car to be that mangled if it wasn't going far above the speed limit. Therefore, I'm not upset about the driver, who is a danger to tons of innocent people out there. If he died, that's more innocent people saved. If he lived, he's probably learnt his lesson which = more innocent people saved.
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In my opinion, it would be VERY hard for the car to be that mangled if it wasn't going far above the speed limit. Therefore, I'm not upset about the driver, who is a danger to tons of innocent people out there. If he died, that's more innocent people saved. If he lived, he's probably learnt his lesson which = more innocent people saved.
That's what i was about to say. No way the car could've been that mangled without SOME help from the driver, even if there were other drivers at fault too.
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Old 02-28-2004, 03:15 PM
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Can’t agree with that. Do you really think it’s impossible for one individual to do something stupid on the road, another driver taking avoiding action and having an impact with someone/something else?

A good friend of my cousin's lost his life on his sports bike on a highway several years ago through no fault of his own. He was on the fast lane (adhering to the limit) and was about to overtake a car when it moved into his lane at the last second. He lost control of the bike, flew into the central reservation and was decapitated. He wasn’t speeding, doing in-betweens or riding recklessly. He simply found himself in a “situation” that had no way out. Eyewitnesses said that the car driver was at fault, moving into the bike’s lane (maybe he didn’t look, maybe it was in his blind spot), giving my cousin’s friend nowhere to go. A young man, in his early 20’s, paid the ultimate price for someone else’s mistake. The car that caused the accident drove on, and if memory serves, wasn’t caught as no one chased after it.

Now imagine not knowing this, but simply seeing pictures of a destroyed, high-powered sports bike and its dead owner, his head separated from the rest of the body. You’d think “crashed superbike, mutilated rider... hmm… he must have been doing something crazy, a hazard to himself and all other road users, good riddance”. And how wrong you would be.

This sad story still sticks in my head and scares me, because there’s nothing that says YOU won’t pay for another’s mistake. It’s also just about the only thing that keeps me from buying a motorbike, that, my cousin’s close calls on his Kawasaki, and my best friend’s nasty accident taking a “big bike” driving test – needless to say he failed… I wont be getting a bike anytime soon, but never say never…

I’ve had 3 close calls where I could have had a big crash from avoiding someone being an idiot. I’m sure most of you have too, if not all of you. Since im sitting here typing this, obviously none of the incidents carried the same consequences as the accident above, (all 3 times there was actually no impact), but it could have been very, very different, and I count myself lucky.

Once I was doing ~80 on a grey drizzly day on the motorway (typical English weather), when a mk3 Golf (same as mine) in front of me suddenly let out a huge, thick cloud of smoke. I immediately get off the gas and have my foot over the brake. I couldn’t see anything in front or behind me for maybe one second (which felt like an eternity) and when he appears again i'm closing on his rear bumper fast. The idiot’s got his anchors on, hard. Thankfully I wasn’t too close behind him before the smoke obscured my vision, but I hit the brakes hard, locking up, and swerved to the left narrowly avoiding a certain impact, but not knowing if there was anyone in the lane I moved into. It was a split second reaction and there was simply no time to look. If there had been a car there the impact doesn’t bear thinking about. The guy in the other Golf (still in the fast lane) picked up speed again and when he eventually got alongside me he had no expression on his face, as if nothing had happened. He didn’t look at me, no apology, nothing. I wanted to kill him for what he might have done to me and my passenger. Luckily his car had as shit brakes as mine. If he had ABS I would have careered into the back of him and waited for the next car to hit me from behind. What caused his car to let out that cloud of smoke i also dont know...

Another time was an almost head on impact when a car came out of a side street, realised she shouldn’t have gone because i was so close and stopped halfway in my lane. Again it was wet (fucking English weather), I swerved and hit the brakes, which again locked up (anyone spotting a trend here? I need a new car) and skidded into oncoming traffic, narrowly missing a car before guiding my car back into the correct lane. I like to think there was some degree of skill in avoiding this one, lots of luck too though I was doing 30, as was oncoming traffic. Would have been a considerable crash…

And finally my car was almost totalled by a foreign bus (German plates) speeding around a turn onto the wrong, i.e. my side of the road. Idiot must have forgotten that we drive on the left side of the road in the UK. That one would have probably been death but again I somehow avoided it with my schumi-like skills


Anyway, sorry for rambling. This is probably the longest post ive ever written. Hopefully ive made my point. You guys are most probably right in this case, 95% so. The battered car is an Evo, so chances are it was being driven fast. But you can suffer massive damage to your car and not be at fault. Let’s not jump to conclusions and say we’re glad this driver’s off the road, we could be very, very wrong.


Btw, anyone hear of Mercedes test driver "Turbo Rolf"? thoughts on him being jailed for “contributing” to the death of that woman and her child on the autobahn?
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I fully support crayzayjay's position here. It could have been fully the other drivers fault, who knows maybe the guy who hit him was doing 90mph lost it and smaked the evo.

heck two moths ago I was just sitting in traffic (literally motionless) and an expedition (coming the oposite way) lost it and did 8000 worth of damage to my car. Basically one driver its enough to cause a very nasty wreck.


And even if it was his fault, to err is human. I doubt there is anyone in AF that did not do something stupid, at least once, while driving and was saved by sheer luck. So do you think you deserved to die just then?

Bottom line I hope he got away safe and sound no matter who was at fault. Life is too precious to hope otherwise.
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Re: Just another bashed EVO

An accident like jay described can easily happen on a bike, unfortunately, and there is the possibility of some freak accident where a massively speeding dumptruck slammed into that Evo, but I'm willing to bet that it was simply another idiot in a Evo doing something stupid. I'm not at all saying he deserved to die, simply that he deserves to learn a lesson.

Would be interesting to see the actual story behind that one.
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Re: Just another bashed EVO

that car got f***ed up.
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I'm willing to bet that it was someone under the age of 21, who had no/little driving experience. This is why I say everyone should start out with a FWD with under 150hp. I'm glad I had to.
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Looks like it fell off a cliff from a very high distance.
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