First car and 11's

[youngmanvr4]

So dont get the VR-4 for like 2 years or so?What about an SL or GST?What mods can i do with an SL?I dont know a thing about NA engine.

[Zero8985]

Lol, this is gonna sound really confusing, but here it goes.

Get what you want. Though i try to discourage your decision, i don't want to make the decision for you. What ever you decide to get should be your decision for the most part. I'd say look for something your happy with, that you won't question yourself about things when you buy it. Remember, a car should be measured on more than just performance.

BTW, NA means Naturally Aspirated, no Turbochargers or Supercharger on the engine.

[youngmanvr4]

I'm not trying to fight with you all...but i dont think i'll be happy with anything of then a turbo'd car.And i love the looks of a VR-4 more then anything.I was also thinking about a 90-96 300zx tt (twin turbo).But for the same price i can get a 3000GT and the car i want.Or the prices i found i could.

Yea...i know what NA means...but i my question was, what mods can you do to give a NA enigne more hp with out turbocharging it?I know you can put a higher compression ratio and/or stroke the engine.But what more it there besides intake, exhaust and fuel system?

You all wont kill me or get mad at me if i get a VR-4 will you?

[yourmama436]

Originally Posted by eckoman_pdx

Dude, calm down. Don't get so uptight and vulgar, just calm down. Comments like that are not appericated and are pointless. Don't get mad and highjack the thread. Just calm down, this thread is about this kid and what we think of him wanting to buy and mod a VR-4; if we think it's a good idea...etc. Don't flip out and get all mad, there's no need for that.

your right i was just saying that the kid should get the sl dont whant to get people mad i just dont like people that have no idea what a sl can push with thoughs mod whan i have had the car for 5 years

[yourmama436]

Originally Posted by dsm97gsx

I'm not trying to fight with you all...but i dont think i'll be happy with anything of then a turbo'd car.And i love the looks of a VR-4 more then anything.I was also thinking about a 90-96 300zx tt (twin turbo).But for the same price i can get a 3000GT and the car i want.Or the prices i found i could.

Yea...i know what NA means...but i my question was, what mods can you do to give a NA enigne more hp with out turbocharging it?I know you can put a higher compression ratio and/or stroke the engine.But what more it there besides intake, exhaust and fuel system?

You all wont kill me or get mad at me if i get a VR-4 will you?

It depends on what you whant to do with the car, freeway or drag!!
if you drag go with the turbo but freeway you whant to go with the superchare cars

[yourmama436]

Originally Posted by joemathews

yourmama456, no disrespect was intended in my post, but the addition of punctuation might make your posts somewhat easier to understand...and I think the VR4 and Camaro are probably on equal ground in terms of safety. The VR4 weighs a couple hundred pounds more, in large part because of the four wheel drive, but it also has a much smaller cabin than a 94 Camaro. In any case, the reason I was saying the Camaro was safer was not because of its crash test ratings, but because it does not have over 300hp to put it into a tree/house/lake/other hazard. I'm just saying that it is a lot easier to kill yourself in a car with almost twice as much horsepower than another. And honestly, why not just drive a little slower car for a year or two to get your driving skills and decision making solidified? After all, how many high school girls really know or care what's under the hood lol?

sorry about what i siad anyways like i side i have an 3000gt sl good car that is reliable and fast plus i got an allweel drive put into it and a 300zx but it is got intake problems 82k on it emile me at [email protected] if your intrested

[eckoman_pdx]

I personally hate superchargers. I don't like the fact the boost is almost always on (more wear and tear), I don't like the parasitic losses that result from belt driver FI like a supercharger. I perfer turbo's, using waste (exhuast gases) to generate power. Yes, with bigger turbos there can be turbo lag, but I'll gladly take that over a blower. Less wear in tear in that sense too, plus a good turbo is more efficent and doesn't suffer the parasictic hp losses a supercharger does. I've always perfer'd turbos over superchargers, and I always will. Thats my 2 cents.

[yourmama436]

Originally Posted by eckoman_pdx

I personally hate superchargers. I don't like the fact the boost is almost always on (more wear and tear), I don't like the parasitic losses that result from belt driver FI like a supercharger. I perfer turbo's, using waste (exhuast gases) to generate power. Yes, with bigger turbos there can be turbo lag, but I'll gladly take that over a blower. Less wear in tear in that sense too, plus a good turbo is more efficent and doesn't suffer the parasictic hp losses a supercharger does. I've always perfer'd turbos over superchargers, and I always will. Thats my 2 cents.

your right, but in a race on the freeway you go with the supercharge car, the turbos on a car dont work on that amount of speed the supercharged cars will allways win after 100+++++++++

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by yourmama436

your right, but in a race on the freeway you go with the supercharge car, the turbos on a car dont work on that amount of speed the supercharged cars will allways win after 100+++++++++

I am not trying to be rude...but it's just a dumb idea to street race, and racing on a freeway is street racing. Street racing not only endangers yourself, but others as well. I think it falls under the catagory of having the maturity before you own a powerful car. An example is having the maturity to not go and punch it every time you are rev'd on. That's a quick way to accidents and tickets. That being said, downshifting to raise the rpm's will solve the lag issue pretty quickly (if it's present) to a certain degree. The cuirsing rpm's may be high enough with a smaller turbo to elimiate lag. It most likely won't take that long to get up into the band. Plus you can get more power and boost out of a turbo. Also, if the car has a centifigul supercharger, it tends to create power at the top of the band (it bascially shifts the power band to the right). I'll still take a turbo, and a good driver will be able to maniplulate the gears shifting to keep the car in the proper rpm range for the turbo. Either way, keep it at the track and keep it off the streets. I deplore street racing, even if it is "on the freeway" or "off a stoplight." It's all just a bad idea. It's not worth endangering your own life, let alone the lives of the innocent drivers around you. If someone doesn't have the maturity to not street race and not gun it to show power every time they are rev'd on, they don't have the maturity to own a powerful car like a vette or vr-4, IMO. It's all about the maturity and self-control of the driver.

[yourmama436]

Originally Posted by eckoman_pdx

I am not trying to be rude...but it's just a dumb idea to street race, and racing on a freeway is street racing. Street racing not only endangers yourself, but others as well. I think it falls under the catagory of having the maturity before you own a powerful car. An example is having the maturity to not go and punch it every time you are rev'd on. That's a quick way to accidents and tickets. That being said, downshifting to raise the rpm's will solve the lag issue pretty quickly (if it's present) to a certain degree. The cuirsing rpm's may be high enough with a smaller turbo to elimiate lag. It most likely won't take that long to get up into the band. Plus you can get more power and boost out of a turbo. Also, if the car has a centifigul supercharger, it tends to create power at the top of the band (it bascially shifts the power band to the right). I'll still take a turbo, and a good driver will be able to maniplulate the gears shifting to keep the car in the proper rpm range for the turbo. Either way, keep it at the track and keep it off the streets. I deplore street racing, even if it is "on the freeway" or "off a stoplight." It's all just a bad idea. It's not worth endangering your own life, let alone the lives of the innocent drivers around you. If someone doesn't have the maturity to not street race and not gun it to show power every time they are rev'd on, they don't have the maturity to own a powerful car like a vette or vr-4, IMO. It's all about the maturity and self-control of the driver.

good point. am not into street racing but sometimes when dum ass high school kids try to race me am not just going to flip them the bird ill race them. and i do like to have fun and i been doing it for a long time.

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by yourmama436

good point. am not into street racing but sometimes when dum ass high school kids try to race me am not just going to flip them the bird ill race them. and i do like to have fun and i been doing it for a long time.

Well, to each their own I guess. I'd let them rev and race off looking like a fool. I know what my car can do. Whether they have the better car or I do doesn't matter to me in this settig. It's better to just let em rev, ignore them and let them take off than race them and cause a wreck or get a ticket. It only takes one screw up to really mess things up.

[joemathews]

i do not like tickets or jail

[YogsVR4]

Originally Posted by dsm97gsx

You all wont kill me or get mad at me if i get a VR-4 will you?

Of course not. I just think (as I posted some time ago) that in general, a VR4 is to much of a car to be someones first.