Sunfires, Cavaliers, Neons

[nismo4banger]

I was about to mention the toyota cavalier thing, but you beat me to it. You can't discriminate between Domestics and Imports anymore. What is an import really? They build many Mercedes and Toyotas in the US. Do you like the Mazda 6? I think it's a great looking car and it has decent power for it's class, but it has a Ford motor that is slightly tuned by Mazda. Now would you call that import or domestic? I have driven one on a track, and I was impressed. Do you like Jaguars? They are owned and now share many parts with Ford. Saab is now owned by General Motors. Car companies buy and share ideas and reseach to save costs. I talked to a Subaru representative at the Chicago auto show and he told me that Subaru is using a Mitsubishi turbo in the WRX. He also told me that Mitsubishi uses Subaru's all wheel drive technology and research to build their Evo's. Not only that, but Subaru is working with General Motors to use the OnStar technology in their cars. Now, Saab is using Subarus AWD technology in a new car that's due out in 2006. So, it's a Swedish car, owned by the US, using some Japanese technology. Import? Domestic? It would be too costly for every car company to research every aspect that is involved with building a great car. They all buy and share ideas. The people that win here is the consumer. You probably wouldn't want an 89-95 Taurus SHO because it's domestic, right? Oh wait...it has a 220hp Yamaha 6 cylinder and it's realiable. Your "precious" Honda Accord was making 120 at that time. To discriminate against the "badge" of a car is ignorant. To say imports are better than domestics is ignorant. Lastly, I think you have a problem with the drivers of Cavs, Sunfires, and Neons. Why customize a slow domestic car, right? I can't tell you how many times i've seen CRX HF's or Civic HX's with rims or stickers. These are the gas saving, terribly under powered models. That is far worse than putting exhaust on a Cavalier z24. Maybe you just don't like the drivers of the domestic cars, well I've been cut off by an IS300 on two seperate occassions and you know what? It's still a sweet ride.

[Redteam22003]

Testing

[inspiron]

Originally Posted by nismo4banger

Car companies buy and share ideas and reseach to save costs. .

yes, infact the new malibu is't realy new it is biult off of a frame that sabb and ople use, all of general moders cars use the same engines (3400,3500,3800,350cid, northstar v8,ecotech 2.0,2.2,2.4 and all of the vortech engines) and the new gto is not realy new it is an australan car gm makes

but as for the srt-4 cavalr neon civic and so forth, ther econo jobs not sports cars and i hate it how people think that all they have to do is slap on a exaust tip and they will have the fastest car in town. what also pisses me off is how people think that somehow a neon or a geo is biult to go fast and they try to back up there opinions by pertending that there japaniese or they say things like (i had a dooge viper and it was a pisce of sheet it was but i sold it and now i have a dooge civic that prefroooms beater than the viper and my corvette IMPORTS OWNZ)

[Rocket1234]

Did you guys ever look at the cobalt replacing the cavalier. It will woop any civic's ass that is stock. There was a report on the testing of this car on the track and it beat the ingegra RSX type s so i would rethink your views on the cavalier and also did you see the interor of this car.

[nismo4banger]

It's about time for GM to have a worthy competitor in this market. I think the Cobalt will be a fine car.
Engines available:
2.2=140hp
2.4=170hp
2.0 supercharged=no hp ratings yet
The 2 liter is shared with the Saturn Ion Redline. Should be at least 200hp.

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by MRfaboLAOS

I Respect 10% Of American Cars. I Agree That Most Of Them Are Quick As Hell, But They Are Also Costly.

That's because the cars your thinking of are made mostly of American steel, not plastic..more like 80% steel 20% plastic. Therefore making it a little more expensive to produce.

I respect 10% of Import cars. I agree that most of them are cheap and fuel efficient, but you pay cheap, you get cheap.


Do you like my sarcasm, seriously man, you obviously need to learn more about cars and the car industry before you go making statements like that.

[YogsVR4]

Josh, you're repling to something from over three months ago. I think this thread has run its course.