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Old 12-26-2003, 12:33 PM
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How do you stop charcoal from being lifted off the paper by the slightest touch?

Well, the titile should be enough information for you to know what I am asking...
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Re: How do you charcoal from being lifted off the paper by the slightest touch?

Oh shit, never mind, I just tryed it on some older art paper, Got a new white paper sketch book for Christmas, and it stayed! Yeah, so this thread doesn't matter!!! But if you got any tips on using charcoal, post them here!!!
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Re: How do you charcoal from being lifted off the paper by the slightest touch?

I have this spray from that i got from an art store. It works great. I've heard Hair spray works too, but it might make your paper turn a little yellow.
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Yeh, what nismo4banger said. I use it on all type of techniques. It is called Acrylic Coating. There's Crystal Clear 1303. And then there's Matte Finish 1311. The Crystal Clear stuff when used on a drawing using heavy color pencil layers makes it look reflectivly glossy. I love it.

Any art store even something like K-mart should have it. I do not recommend Hair Spray as it might curl up your page just a little from my experience, but it does the trick.

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Wut up Alex

I bet your new sketch book has more tooth to it than the paper you were trying to use originally.

I ran into this problem when I tried to use pastel on computer printer style paper.

I give props to ya man, charcoal is hard in my opinion. I tried to use carbon pencils (like charcoal) on my silvia and screwed it up. I guess i should say it is difficult to use charcoal/carbon for fine detail and that is what I was trying to do.

Charbon + detail + small artwork = screw up

I use frisket film to keep pastel under control.
You can also use stumps to smear charcoal and it will set into the paper and not smear as easily. I should say that worked for carbon not so sure about charcoal. The last time I used charcoal was back in high school.

So you might ask what about the full range of darks I mentioned. Well I am using a 2B mechanical pencil which allows for very dark lines and I am researching other methods for a near black look.

I guess you know about fixitive now too, based on the above posts.

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Re: How do you charcoal from being lifted off the paper by the slightest touch?

If your going to use hair spray use Aqua-Net in my experience its the best hair spray to use. But of course the real clear coat works better.
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Re: How do you charcoal from being lifted off the paper by the slightest touch?

Ok, I have to say Asaenz, for a guy who does work like yours, it is kind of funny to hear you say that you find doing anything (in Art) diffucult... Oh well, I use it, and it is not as hard as it seems, for me, anyway. I will have to buy a stump, which I asked for, for Christmas, but got a acid blender for Prisma Colour Pencil Crayons instead. I will also have to buy some Frisket Film... And actually my OLD paper had more tooth than the NEW paper does, not the other way around. No biggy...Yeah, I will have to finish my drawing of an Enzo, Diablo, and F50 Street Race scene...all in charcoal...


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Wow, you guys are really into this stuff. Sorry, all that prisma-chalk-and-pastel talk is out of my technique language.

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Re: How do you charcoal from being lifted off the paper by the slightest touch?

It will come, soon enough you shall be trained in the art, the art of technical discussion of proper art supplies!
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