best engine for Type-R??

[IwantAteg]

dude, thats what im talking about...doesnt the entire engine swap with all the parts and stuff cost about 15K? and if he does get the rb then how should i boost the hell out of my gsr? like i know NOS would help, and the b18c engine, but what else could help it? what kinda intake should i get?

[94tegRS]

you really need to do some research, if you boost your engine you cant really gret an intake, I mean you can bend piping to go into the location of a CAI kit, but the turbo kit would come with all the piping neded, my suggestion would get LS then if you are gonan try and hang with this guy. get the block sleeved, get some beefed up rods/9:1 pistons, and maybe even a stronger crank but in al of the hotrod honfda engines I see i never hear of anything done to the crank. peice together a custom kit or buy one premade and up the boost to like 18 psi when racing this guy, and keep it down low daily so you can run pump gas wiht no problam and have some reliability to it. and oh yeah one more thing. PRAY!

[IwantAteg]

AHMEN!! lol
so a LS? what would happen if i swap the b18b5 into a ls? would it just fudge it up or nah?

[KrNxRaCer00]

Originally Posted by IwantAteg

AHMEN!! lol
so a LS? what would happen if i swap the b18b5 into a ls? would it just fudge it up or nah?

don't do it. if u want the b18c5, get a type r to begin with. its not a very good motor for straight-line racing UNLESS u put a ton of money into making sure it can handle the boost.

the ls motor has a low 9:1 compression ratio compared to 10.6:1 for the type r. with the lowered compression AND longer gears, it is a MUCH better base for turbo.

[IwantAteg]

ok that seems like a plan, haha. Now whats with the turbo stages, how does that go hand in hand with the engine upgrades. like would i have to start off with the lowest and move up or can i just get the best turbo upgrade there is and install it that way, like would there have to be parts that co-exist with the turbo that might be in a "smaller" upgrade than wouldnt be in a major upgrade? and if any, which ones are availible for the LS?

[Spectre927]

You're just full of questions. If you can afford a type r and you hang around kids who can put skyline engines into their 240sx(skylines and 240SX/S14 or S15s are both rear wheel drive. The AWD in a skyline is similar to LSD, only instead of equal power to left and rear wheels, it gives power to front wheels, and monitors the tires like 15 times a second for traction.) If you want to keep up with your buddy. Just go to like SPEngineering, have them build a beefed up as hell B20 Engine, with a beefed up as hell Ported and polished B16A head. Then throw the biggest quickest spooling turbo, throw in a NOS kitt o get it spooling faster, get a badass intercooler, LSD, street slicks and you should be able to beat your friend. It all comes down to who can write the biggest check basically

[94tegRS]

you can star out wiht the revhard stage 3 or the drag hypo kits first, you just gotta make sure the engine is built for it, going with stage 1 and then upgrading it would be a waste of time and money. just do it right the first time. and yeah get a LS and swap the B20 in keeping the LS head, then there is absolutely NO hassle to install it at all, and turbo that sucker. B20 is a bit weaker sleeved, but thats fixable and you got more displacement for more power

[IwantAteg]

hell yeah im full of questions, lol. Ok so, im getting it now...but whats the differences with the b20 engine and the b16a head? like what would be the difference if i just got a b18c engine and a b16 head? would it just not be fast enough or is there compatibility issues and stuff..and about the b20 engine being built, how much would that typically cost??? haha sorry if im putting a burden on you.

[94tegRS]

the B18C already has a VTEC head on it, swaping to the B16 head would have no advantage except for i think maybe SLIGHTLY higher cr(bad for boost anyways) and ability to run ITR intake manifold. the B20 is a low compression big displacement engine. then you put on the B16 head and you now have the biggest DOHC VTEC B series, except for bored/stroked ones. so you got tons of low end torque and the top end power of VTEC. then with boost youll kick some ass. but again i have no clue how fast that 240 will be.

[IwantAteg]

ok, so i guess it would be a waste of money. so that would be a really good combination,a LS with a b20 engine with b16 head. what do you think the car would run at? 14 seconds?

[94tegRS]

well a CRX with that would be better for pure speed cuz its gonna be about 700-800 pounds lighter I think, but id reather drive a teg around than a CRX. and depends on how far you go with it, just the head on the block with boltons (I/H/E) then youll see 14's IM almost sure of it, but throw in some high comp pistons, some cames, and some other stuff in the mix, maybe a wet kit, or keep the 8.8's in there strengthen and boost. also about the rods a LSVTEC I saw on a website once was pushing I think 231 WHP and still using the stock rods, and the B20 has the same rods.

[IwantAteg]

sounds cool..so what do you have in your teg? and what is the difference in muffler types, like if you get one with a bigger exit point will that increase HP? what should i look into?

[94tegRS]

well, all I had was SRI, DC ceramic 4-2-1 header, and 2.5" exhaust(no brand name) but it pulled hard, I raced mid 15 second cars and BARELY LOST, nothing special but for an LS id say its good. not sure how fast 92 SHO'd ar but I could almost hang with one in that car, but dont have it anymore, sold it like 1.5 yrs ago, im on a R1 now and have gotten rid of my other 3 cars, all i got left to get rid of is my hatch listed below(anybody want it, its gotta go) and then I can start my CRVTEC teg project. I am looking at 2nd gen GSR's now since they will have everything i need for a crvtec, put my pistons in and then start from there, not sure if i wanna keep the 11:1's and run a respectable all motor teg, or swap for some forged 9:1's and boost it and smoke this kid with his damn SRT-4. I hate that that this neon just smokes me(well, not on the R1)