EVO or WRX

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K


Its not exactly the same tho is it? Do you know what it does because i couldn't find anything about the damn thing?

Anyways no that piece of crap is probably what made the car twitchy its no available on any of the UK or JP Subaru's altho there was some sort of DCCD on the J-Spec 22B that never appeared on the UK's version.

Subaru probably just balls the whole thing up.

You can correct this problem for them by simply removing this item for a Cusco rear diff a one way tho and the EVO would be much better with a AYC ACD they just wanted to make the car cheaper

It's also going to become ricified after 2fast 2furious

i don't know if the DCCD and the AYC are exactly the same i really don't know many details about it but at least is suposedly similar to AYC...


and you know what....by seing how well the us spec evo handles i wonder if they tuned the chassis or suspension to make up for the lack of AYC...i guess will find out when sombody will put them side by side....


and yeah that kind of bugs me since i want to get an EVO....it might suck to have people come to me and be like...cool fast and the furious car...and i would have to slap them

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally posted by gti1689
I don't want to get this brawl started again, but i just want to state my opinion. Personally, I think comparing the evo 8 and the sti is similar to comparing apples and oranges. They scream two similar, yet different themes. Both have a rally image and roots, but I look at the sti and think of it as the hot rod (sort of crude-hood scoop-and loaded with power). I think of the evo as the scalpel (as in, it is meant to be used in only one fashion-driving all out).

nsx, i think i understand what you are saying about how subaru engineers don't rely on electronics as heavily as the mitsu, but in the end the driving experince (electronic or not) is what matters.

i agree with the fact that the subaru is faster in straight-line acceleration, yet with around 25 more hp and .5 liters, than the evo, it should be.

i know that since you [nsx] live in britain you would think the US magazines inferior to a british publication like topgear or car. being an avid reader of evo, topgear, and car magazine i thought i could give you some quotes from those magazines instead of some silly US publication. hopefully, the editors of the above mentioned mags aren't considered morons in your mind also.

I buy SuperStreet and Best Motoring DVD's
I haven't bought a top gear mag for ages

[gti1689]

no problem neutrino. i love eurppean car mags, but whenever i do buy them i always blow like 20 bucks on the damn things. hahaha, nsx i thought that you would be into that stuff, but hey you can never be sure. i have seen best mototing videos and i read superstreet, so you should try sports campact car if your into detailed analysis of how to do a hybrid or build up a car.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally posted by gti1689
no problem neutrino. i love eurppean car mags, but whenever i do buy them i always blow like 20 bucks on the damn things. hahaha, nsx i thought that you would be into that stuff, but hey you can never be sure. i have seen best mototing videos and i read superstreet, so you should try sports campact car if your into detailed analysis of how to do a hybrid or build up a car.

yea i did buy a couple of those but i bought super street cuz they feature Japanese Tuned Vehicles as well as US ones

The only problem is that i subscribed to Super Street and i don't think i'd subscribe to another magazine. I did buy Top Gear and Car a long time ago but at the moment they're not what i want in a magazine.

I'm thinking of getting a bunch of Option Videos but i need to save my money. I have to make a £5000 mark by the end of July and i don't think i'll make it. Ebay is the source of all my problems.

[RACER D12]

People people come on its all about euro tunner, import tunner, and superstreet some time. Superstreet has alot of adds and crap.

[NSX-R-SSJ20K]

Originally posted by RACER D12
People people come on its all about euro tunner, import tunner, and superstreet some time. Superstreet has alot of adds and crap.

you haven't read max power !!!!!!

[x838nwy]

It's been entertaining reading messages on this forum. Personally, I can't understand why Japanese car makers keep selling cars with slightly different specs in Japan/Europe/US.

Anyhow, I've never driven either of the two cars in their newest incarnation. However, I know a number of people who own these things and a number that actually race them. So here's my opinion, formed after talking to them (VERY frequently):

Neither is better as JDM spec. No, this is not a sort a "i'm more mature" type of post, but just that the neither of them's best. Both are f****** fast if you drive them right and there's never really going to be a time when it becomes apparent that they are different.

Rod Millen and Tiff Needell are both better drivers than you or I. They get to drive the test cars in ways and under circumstances that none of us will be able to. That's just fact. When you actually own these things and drive them at considerable speed, things are different.

Not one owner of either think that their car is slow and that they should have bought the other (except for, perhaps, the EVO6 owner). Not one of them ever thought "Crap, there's an EVO/STI in my mirrors".

From what I've read, Subaru seem to think that engine power is more important than chassis balance and Mitsu think the opposite. Well, I rekon you could either buy the Subaru and stiffen up the chassis/fanny about with the suspension, or buy the EVO then go to town on the engine. Problem solved.

And if you ever think of buying one of these cars and not do any tuning on them, you should seek help.

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[bulldawgin007]

Ok, look NSX, Ive read alot about the pocket rocket battles, and everytime I read about the two, they have different specs, in one mag. I can read that the sube has a .3 of a second slower 0-60 than the Evo because you have to shift into third gear to get to 60 in the Sube, as aposed to the Evo, where you can hit it in 2nd. And in other mags I read that the Sube has a better 0-60, I think it just depends on the driver, so those stats, at that close of a call, are useless. If Mitsu decided to come with a 2.5 L there would be no more competition and this forum would be pointless because the Evo would blow the STi out of the water..but they havent and heres the rest of my reply. The handling thing, thats where your wrong, in every thing Ive ever read on the Evo Vs. STi, the evo performs better on objective and subjective scoring of the cornering. if you dont know what the difference is between objective and subjective scoring is, objective is whats shown on a test, and doesnt have any opinion on it, its just what happend, like a skip pad test. Subjective scoring is an opinion, such as one from a magazine editor. Everyone of the writers says that the STi suffers from understeer. It doesnt really matter how "balanced" it is, its how it performs, so you can argue that point all you want The evo in a slalom out performed the STi and is in the running with a 03 Enzo, yah, thats right, the Evo performed only 1 mph slower than a 650,000 dollar car. Braking isnt something that means a lot to me as long as it works, but the Evo also out performed the STi there stopping from 60-0 in just 108 ft. But if your just gonna hit a straight away, do what you want cuz none of that meant anything to you, and theyre pretty close as far as that goes too, so if you have to spend an extra $4000 on an STi because cant find a way to shave something like 2 tenths of a second off your quarter *not exactly sure on that* your an idiot, and you dont need to be on this forum anyways.

[LjasonL]

[sond83]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

thanks for posting that...i read sometimes european magazines but they so expensive since they have to be imprted that i don't do it very often....

I am blown away by the performance of the evo.....it bugs me since i had already made up my mind to buy a G35 coupe(aka new skyline) but now i'm torn between it and the evo....

and i love how you put it...sti is more of a hot rod while the evo is a scalpel with rasor sharp precission handling----> and to me that is the most important thing in a car after power

why not try skyline gtr34 v spec2?