two questions

[SkylineUSA]

Damn, 1 k for lifters

I paid $200 for the Isky, so I did all right. I did not want to run a small base cam.

Nice to see you hanging around again.

[boosted331]

Originally Posted by SkylineUSA

Damn, 1 k for lifters

I paid $200 for the Isky, so I did all right. I did not want to run a small base cam.

Nice to see you hanging around again.

Don't expect too much of me, I've worked over 300 hours in the past month and today was my first day off since mid july, just in time for the young'uns to be going to school so I'm all alone at home Doesn't look like it's going to slow up any time soon either. I havn't even pulled the cover off my car since like May, and I was originally hoping for it to be running/driveable by the end of July

[SkylineUSA]

Originally Posted by boosted331

Don't expect too much of me, I've worked over 300 hours in the past month and today was my first day off since mid july, just in time for the young'uns to be going to school so I'm all alone at home Doesn't look like it's going to slow up any time soon either. I havn't even pulled the cover off my car since like May, and I was originally hoping for it to be running/driveable by the end of July

Trust me, I feel your pain

I was hoping to have my car done by now, but its still all torn apart.

[Pimpdady753]

o ic that is easy, could you tell me a little bit about the lift and comprestion rasio please.

[SkylineUSA]

Yo pimp,

Help us out a little here, use the search function, or even google. Show us some effort my man.

[Pimpdady753]

ok i can get that cam that you said, i talked to them and they said every thing is changeable, so i will go with the cam the (TFS Stage 2) with the kb dished pistons(unless there is a better kind, any sugestions) with the 58cc head for a 9:1, also the H-Beam Super Racing Rods(midaswell go big or go home i have the money) with the twisted edge heads, Any other sugestions, this is a good setup i will be supercharging it, and how much hp or psi do you think will be safe. thanks

[Pimpdady753]

o yes and im goin with the 393

[SkylineUSA]

I found some good rule of thumb for setting up a cam;

Advancing the cam gear opens a valve earlier, and closes it sooner... retarding the cam gear, opens the valve later, and closes it later... since all you've done is moved a fixed event.

Advancing Intake and Exhaust : This will provide the car with more bottom end power, and will decrease top end. Advancing both cam gears will move overlap earlier.

Retarding Intake and Exhaust : This will increase the cars top end, but will decrease low end. Retarding both cam gears will move the overlap later and but will not change the amount of overlap.

Advance Exhaust Only : This will help the cars top end, and it reduces overlap.

Retard Exhaust only : This will help the cars mid range power, very useful for cars with big turbos / big cams. By increasing overlap, It decreases lag significantly. Doing this will bring the boost on all at once.

Advance Intake only : This will increase overlap and helps the cars bottom end and mid range power. This mod will bring the turbo on all at once.

The lift has a dramatic effect on low R.P.M. performance, but has a lesser effect at higher R.P.M.s.

Duration has the opposite effect of lift. The longer the duration, the more the R.P.M. horsepower will be boosted, but it is at the expense of lower R.P.M. horsepower.

As we all know, it's a bunch of trade offs. What one tuner might think is a good trade off, another will think its a bad trade off. That is when the debates will start.

[SkylineUSA]

here is a TFS stage one, which I like with 1.7rr
TFS-51402000
Valve Setting Intake: .000 in.
Valve Setting Exhaust: .000 in.
Advertised Duration (Degrees): 275 intake/279 exhaust
Duration at .050 in. Lift (Degrees): 221 intake/225 exhaust
Camshaft Lift: .312 in. intake/.319 in. exhaust
Valve Lift with 1.6 Rocker Arms: .499 in. intake/.510 in. exhaust
Lobe Separation (Degrees): 112
Intake Cam Timing at .050 in. Valve Lift:
Opens 3 degrees BTDC
Closes 38 degrees ABDC
Max lift: 108 degrees ATDC

Are they going to set up the heads, so you don't have to worry about Mr. Piston and Mr. Valve having an argument?

[Pimpdady753]

i guess i will ask them that.

[boosted331]

you + 393 (not even with a blower) = your car wrapped around a telephone poll. Ever see that video of the guy in the 03 cobra who blasts around the corner, hitting the throttle, then it gets out of control on him because he's a gomer pyle? Yeah, that'll be you. Not trying to be an asshole, that just comes naturally, but you have as much business behind the wheel of a 393 mustang as you do in the girls washroom in an elementary school.

[SkylineUSA]

I can see what boosted is trying to say. 393 is going to be a lot of power, and if you never had any where near that amount at your disposal, we can for see bad things happening in the future if you do not know what you are doing. Age has a lot to do with it. You need some maturity to know when to use the power, like only in a controlled environment, on the street is a big no, no.

[Pimpdady753]

i have compleat controll of the car, and i have experince with fishtailing and stuff, i have had alot of practice not only in my car but in my friends comaro that has a 350 and that is bord out to what ever you can bore it out to, that was a sweet car. so dont worry about it. and i am vary mutrue a dont ever speed and i dont drive like an ass hole just no need for it.

[boosted331]

Originally Posted by Pimpdady753

i have compleat controll of the car, and i have experince with fishtailing and stuff, i have had alot of practice not only in my car but in my friends comaro that has a 350 and that is bord out to what ever you can bore it out to, that was a sweet car. so dont worry about it. and i am vary mutrue a dont ever speed and i dont drive like an ass hole just no need for it.

• You said you built this car to go smack around ricers on the street. That ≠ maturity, and lends me to believe you're going to drive like a retard
• Your friends sweet camaro with a bored out 350 makes 350 horsepower, best case scenario
• The fact that you can say "I have complete control of the car" when all you've driven is a mildly modded 5.0 and a camaro when you're thinking of building a 1000 horsepower car just shows how little experience you have

Let me put things in perspective for you. In 1997 I bought an S-trim for my 5.0 coupe. windsor jr. heads, ported cobra intake, full exhaust, a tiny little 210/215 comp cam, and a world class T5. It made 470 RWHP and 415 RWTQ. It went low 11's at 124 on slicks. The 393 you're talking about building will do that on motor, no problems. If you downshifted and brought the revs up too high on the highway to pass somebody when you wern't paying the best attention it would pitch the car sideways across both lanes of traffic. I had experience with several fast cars before, and I felt woefully inadequate to jump into that for a street car. My last car was another notch with an R-block 306, AFR's, and a T76-GTS. At 16 psi it made just a pinch over 700 RWHP. Still less than the roughly 800-850 RWHP that you're thinking of. I got into this car after I daily drove my 470 RWHP notch for about 4 years. I typically drove it at 8 psi because 16 genuinely was frightening on the street. On 17" street radials you had to fight to keep it straight clear through 100 MPH. Your buddies sweet camaro with a bored out 350 never did that, and you have no idea what it's like. Go look on SVTperformance.com for that cobra driver. 600 RWHP in a car about 600 pounds heavier than a fox body. He gives it too much gas around a corner, is inexperienced like you so he doesn't know what do to, and he plows into a ton of other cars. Picture a lighter more spin happy car with 250 more RWHP and you can see where you're headed

[SkylineUSA]

Boosted once again speaks the truth. You think you know how to drive, but you do not. I have been driving for over 20 years, and I still do not know how to drive. Passing a truck in my old Mustang, we were going about 45 in a 60, I floored it, next thing I know the ass end of the Stang swings out, and the front of the car is pointing toward the back tire of the truck, needless to say, that scared the hell out of me, and I was very lucky to recover. I am a fairly good driver, I can out drive most, but I still do not know how to drive. By the way, that Stang only had 250rwhp, and look at what happened to me.