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Old 04-18-2003, 09:45 AM
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Talking skylines are tight they is...

they are the phatest cars they go to 0 to 60 in 4.2 seconds there the king of street racing to bad there about 80 large and you got to get them imported from japan but o well they are the best of all cars.


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Old 04-18-2003, 12:31 PM
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While I love Skylines and so do the people that contribute in this area, what youa re saying is not all correct.
Not a single skyline even the GTR is capable of that sort of performance out of the box, or should I say show room standard.

While I do appreciate your enthusisasum as I would suspect others that do, if you are going to quote performance please do so logicilly and correctly
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Old 04-19-2003, 09:03 AM
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wow, great...

another post that clogs the server...
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Old 04-19-2003, 12:49 PM
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That brings up a question I have with 0-60mph compared to 0-100KMH (62mph)
Why is it that when 0-60mph is quoted it always seems way faster than 0-100KPH.

For example. Mitsubishi claims for the evo something like 5.8secs for 0-100 even tho testers have done it in about 5.3secs and for 0-60mph they claim around 4.8secs. Does it take 0.5 secs for an extra 2mph??? It seems to be the same for most performance cars.

hmmmmmm
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Old 04-19-2003, 01:05 PM
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0-60 is in mph.

0-100 km/h is in km/h.

100 km/h is 62.4 mph, so you'll be a little slower to 100kph than 60mph...
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Old 04-19-2003, 05:01 PM
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I'm a little puzzled as to why 0-60 times are so important when comparing the POSSIBLE performance of cars. Going really really fast in a straight line can be fun and all, but in real life there are turns. Track times would be a much better means of comparison and not mention more relevant. I forget which magazine did this, but they took three cars (Acura NSX, Porsche Carrera Coupe, and Chevrolet Corvette ZO6)and three different drivers (enthusiast, amatuer, and pro) and had them fling these babies around a racetrack. It was a great comparison of 3 VERY different cars.
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Old 04-19-2003, 07:26 PM
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The other reason that 0-100kph(62.5mph) often takes longer than 0-60mph is because of an extra shift. Because of the 0-60mph test, most cars are being geared so that the car can reach 60mph before the 2-3 shift.
However, reaching 100kph(62.5mph) often requires a 2-3 shift, and adds a few tenths to the time.
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Old 04-20-2003, 03:23 AM
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A track comparision is really not a fair way of judging cars either. One car might excell on one type of track with a lot of twisties, ie(Lotus Elise). Take it to a track with a lot of straightaways, and it will not be in its element.

0-60 or 0-62.4, does it really matter. I could really care less what my car does, it goes a lot deeper than just 0-60 times when buying a car, or at least it should.
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0-60 or 0-62.4, does it really matter. I could really care less what my car does, it goes a lot deeper than just 0-60 times when buying a car, or at least it should.
This coming from the guy who is building a crazy drag mustang?? I would think 0-60 would be relavant
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Old 04-20-2003, 03:05 PM
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That is funny, I was refering to the GTR, which is like the girl you bring home to mom and dad that you are thinking about marring.

The Stang is the bad girl, the one that likes to be driven really hard, and comes back for more. She squeeks a lot too, No really she does.
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Old 04-20-2003, 03:27 PM
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0-60 times are important on road courses as well, b/c if you can get up to speed quicker than the other guy, you'll beat him to the next corner all day long...

so, even if you get into a corner behind somebody with a slower 0-60, you should beat them to the next one...

it's simply a benchmark that can easily be met on most roads, and is important in everyday driving, such as getting on the freeway and what not, it's not always just an all out performance thing...
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I guess what I was trying to get at is that 0-60 doesn't tell all that much about a car's overall performance. 0-60 is all fun and great, but what about 60-0? Or even 100-0? Slalom or skidpad? 60-100 in top gear? And if car A has a 2sec. advantage with it's 0-60 over car B, but car B has superior braking and handling then car B is going to have the advantage and not car A (what car did what!?). Yeah lapping a Lotus Elise with Mike Waltrip at an oval track is pretty silly and a waste of precious gas that I could be using for MY pleasure. And I have never seen a race where the drivers slow to a stop and try to beat the other guy to 60 out of a corner!
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I'm actually wondering what the acceleration of the Skyline would be on the moon, would it be faster? I mean it would weigh less so it would put less pressure on the tires to get traction, but it has 4wd. But I'm not sure.
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Old 04-21-2003, 09:29 AM
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And I have never seen a race where the drivers slow to a stop and try to beat the other guy to 60 out of a corner!
if you really want to get into this, we could.

but my point was that if you have a quicker car in the 0-60, you can beat him.

we could get into braking, and late braking, and 4wd advantage, and tires, and all the variables, but if you can simply beat a guy in a "drag race" as straights are known as on a road course, you should be able to beat the other guy...

0-60 is what matters most on the street, b/c you're going to be getting there the most, compared to something like 0-100.
and that has more to do with aero, gearing, momentum and what not, not just the brute power of the car.

60-0 and 100-0 are shown in damn near every review i've ever read, and braking is just as important, with a huge aftermarket support for upgrading brakes, but it's easier to say
"i can hit 60 in 4 seconds"
it's way more impressive than
"i can stop from 60 in 100 feet"
not the same impact, until you realize how short a 100 foot stop from 60 is...
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