Motorex=Monopoly?

Biggstone78 · #1 11-26-2003, 05:48 AM

Hi, I have read a lot of the threads about legalizing Skylines, and as i understand it Motorex is the only company with the intellectual rights to the process correct? Well i was thinking and i may be off base here, but couldn't another company sue them for being a monopoly? it was just a thought. I really want a gtr r34 vspec. but if the only way i can legally drive it is through motorex i'll have to wait a while. Any way if this idea has been brought up before and i missed it i apologize a head of time.

Moppie · #2 11-26-2003, 06:41 AM

Not at all, any company can go through the same process that Motorex did, infact with the right research and enginering/legal knowledge less work and find out the requirments and preform them.
Its just a matter of the time and money, and being willing to risk it in such and investment.
I think you will find that the ACTUAL market for skylines in the US is a lot smaller than many people think.

SkylineUSA · #3 11-26-2003, 09:25 AM

There are no intellectual rights established at all.

The only reason why the market is a lot lower in the States is because of the price increase established by the US Gov't.

If we could get them for the same price, say for the same price as the guys downunder could, there would be a buttload of them roaming the streets. But that would stiffle the American Economics.

TuxedoCartman · #4 11-26-2003, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SkylineUSA

If we could get them for the same price, say for the same price as the guys downunder could, there would be a buttload of them roaming the streets. But that would stiffle the American Economics.

Because, man, let me tell you how many Mustang or Camaro driving V8 die-hards would have decided not to get their Cobra's or their SS's, and instead go with an all-wheel drive turbo six...

Hell, I don't even think it'd cut in on American STi or Evo sales.

I don't mean that as an insult to you, SkylineUSA, because you're absolutely right. But that doesn't change the fact that it's the dumbest argument I've heard from a Federal DOT standpoint in a long time.

VQuick · #5 11-26-2003, 05:20 PM

Motorex is not the only company that legalizes Skylines. IIRC, RB Motoring does that now too. The prices for legalizing a Skyline you bring in is about the same, I think.

flylwsi · #6 11-26-2003, 05:33 PM

dude... rb motoring gets their cars from motorex.

it's not the issue of a monopoly.
it's about putting up the money.
and motorex has...

VQuick · #7 11-26-2003, 09:05 PM

Oops, I was wrong about RB. They are supposed to be waiting for approval to be an RI.

RazorGTR · #8 11-26-2003, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VQuick

Motorex is not the only company that legalizes Skylines. IIRC, RB Motoring does that now too. The prices for legalizing a Skyline you bring in is about the same, I think.

Yes RBMotoring is going through the process to begin legaliztion. Who is IIRC? Please provide proof they have all the clearance to do legalization. I am sure many who want a Skyline in the states would love to know for sure also.

SkylineUSA · #9 11-27-2003, 02:12 AM

TuxedoCartman,

I have a stable of V8s, and I6s. I love them both. I take no offense to your post. The fact that a lot of people get stuck with what they know. Hell, I am the same way, I was raised with fords, so no chevy for me. I do dabble in Mopar

VQuick · #10 11-27-2003, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorGTR

Who is IIRC? Please provide proof they have all the clearance to do legalization. I am sure many who want a Skyline in the states would love to know for sure also.

"IIRC" stands for "If I Remember/Recall Correctly." Sorry about that Razor. I'd better stop laughing before you ban me.

NightXCZ77 · #11 12-24-2003, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SkylineUSA

There are no intellectual rights established at all.

The only reason why the market is a lot lower in the States is because of the price increase established by the US Gov't.

If we could get them for the same price, say for the same price as the guys downunder could, there would be a buttload of them roaming the streets. But that would stiffle the American Economics.

Actually, there are or have been exclusive rights. There are many companies that have been trying to get those rights for years. You call JK Motors who sold all of the paperwork to MotoRex in the first place and you get "if you want a Skyline call MotoRex." You call the EPA or DOT and ask them the same thing...they tell you to call MotoRex...you ask if you can be a RI...they say call MotoRex. You call any RI in the states and they'll say "we've been working on those cars forever and still haven't been approved" or "call MotoRex."

The US government did not establish any price increase. Motorex prices R33 GT-R's at 60k on their site...yet they sold one not too long ago for $80 some thousand....they have the price increase. MotoRex can sell the vehicles at whatever price they want. If any of you had done half o the research on this whole process/who MotoRex really is, you'd know this stuff.

Night

SkylineUSA · #12 12-25-2003, 01:28 AM

So, you think exclusive rights, are intellectual rights?

I believe when you have to pay the different gov't agencies to test each GTR, aren't you going to incur a price increase.

I was not refering to MotoRex, jacking their prices up, do to inflation.

NightXCZ77 · #13 12-25-2003, 01:35 AM

You don't pay government agencies. JK Motors (type that in on google)...brought in the Skylines...invited the EPA and DOT reps to come and view their crash tests. They did multiple crash tests after modifying the vehicles to pass DOT and EPA standards. JK Motors filed the petition for importing and legalizing the vehicles...the petition was granted and sold to Motorex....end of story. The government agencies don't test the cars, the crash-test agencies do. The crash test they performed covered Skylines up til 1998...from that one crash test. They could have wrecked a R32 non-turbo for all we know and after that applied every other vehicle to it. I know that they did test the airbags however, and those were not available in R32's to my knowledge.

Night

SkylineUSA · #14 12-25-2003, 01:45 AM

I am not talking about what JK Motors, I am totally aware of what you are saying. And Yes, you are right.

Does MotoRex have to take the GTR to any Gov't agencies, after they make their vehicle changes? I think they do, and they have to pay them. See what I am getting at.

I think your stuck on the crash testing. The initial expense, I am not referring to that at all.

SkylineUSA · #15 12-25-2003, 01:52 AM

My 3 GTRs do not have Air Bags, but my GTSt does. Go figure that one out

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