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View Poll Results: Which of these statements most closely matches your opinion?
George Bush has done everything right. 5 14.29%
Bush senior should have done it when he had the chance. 11 31.43%
Where are the WMD? 2 5.71%
It's time to bring the troops home 1 2.86%
Iraq needs more assistance in setting up its own government 4 11.43%
Bush stuffed up,his information on WMD's was a poor excuse for an invasion 12 34.29%
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the Iraq poll.

Let's see where the membership stands.The most vocal among us aren't always the majority.
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Well, you really don't have my stance on it.

Has good been done in Iraq? Yes. Do I commend George W. Bush and his administration for doing it? Yes. Do I feel that there were moments where a bit more diplomacy and tact was needed? Yes. Will postwar Iraq continue to need U.S support? Probably for a good many years.

I don't believe that this war was about oil or about leftover agendas from George Bush's term. I do believe that George W. Bush, however flawed his thinking might be, acted in the way he felt was best according to his beliefs and his moral code. That is something I can appreciate, even when I disagree.

Now, though, that Hussein is deposed and rebuilding is commencing, I think that demilitarizing Iraq will be a good step. Concentrating on other hostile regions, and peaceful relief missions into hunger and disease torn regions of Africa should be goals now.
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Re: the Iraq poll.

I take objection with this

"Bush stuffed up,his information on WMD's was a poor excuse for an invasion"

That would require Bush to be informed
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Re: the Iraq poll.

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The most vocal among us aren't always the majority.
We need voice recognition software implemented around here.

I, for one, am glad a large portion of the membership doesn’t come to this section of the forum.













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Re: Re: the Iraq poll.

Bush is a fucking liar.

and for some reason the midea portrays him as literally a stupid person

i think hes stupid also
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Re: the Iraq poll.

Should have had another step "Bush will rot in hell" but anyways...
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Re: the Iraq poll.

I myself would like to see the WMD that Bush said he would have the whole time the war was going on, and even before. He was so sure of himself that they were there, yet there is nothing but sand so far as the US has been able to find. Granted there have been large amounts of weapons taken out but they are not WMD.

I do, however, feel that there was some good done in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was taken from power, and many of his subordinates captured as well. Hopefully someday Iraq will be some place that people wont have to be afraid to live; I think it's slowly working towards that but with the fighting that is still going on, it's a bit hard to say.

I for one will be voting for someone other than GWB this coming election.
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Re: the Iraq poll.

I for one will vote for George Bush! Now go ahead and whine, complain and cry! I rather have a presdient with balls follow his convictions than a president scared to do anything because he might not get re-elected. Not all the decisons he makes will please everyone but who cares what the minority thinks.
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Im with you flatrater, I just want to see what people vote now after the state of the union address.
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Re: Re: the Iraq poll.

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Not all the decisons he makes will please everyone but who cares what the minority thinks.
obviously you do.Wasn't it the minority[and the Supreme Court]that installed him in the hot seat?
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I personally think we just need more time to set the government up. No good things come from rushing. Especially something as big as setting up an entire government from scratch. And I really couldn't care less about WMD. Hussein was an idiot and the world is better off without him. Whether we found a hundred nuclear weapons under Iraq tomorrow or we never find them, my opinion wouldn't change.
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I really couldn't care less about WMD. Hussein was an idiot and the world is better off without him. Whether we found a hundred nuclear weapons under Iraq tomorrow or we never find them, my opinion wouldn't change.

That's very surprising to myself, Im not saying you are wrong with what you have stated, I mean that many people who got behind G-Dub were under the impression that there were infact WMD to found in Iraq and supported the invasion because of this. Now that there are STILL no WMD people such as myself would like answers; as I stated earlier, Bush made it out that he had such a strong case and that there were most definately WMD in the country of Iraq. Im sorry, but making such a big deal of something and then coming up with not a single Chemical Weapon warhead is quite a blow to credibility, which is especially bad if you are the President of the United States. Im glad Saddam is gone as well, but where the hell are the weapons Bush?
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Re: Re: Re: the Iraq poll.

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obviously you do.Wasn't it the minority[and the Supreme Court]that installed him in the hot seat?
Didn't you used to use that avatar a long time ago?

Anyway, he was elected by the only majority that matters at the national level. Electoral votes. Hope thats the end of that discussion in this thread.













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Re: the Iraq poll.

i voted this "Bush stuffed up,his information on WMD's was a poor excuse for an invasion"

Bush was handed that state on a sliver plate just like every thing else in his life.

Saddam possed no risk to the United States, to other Middle Eastern contries, perhaps. However, we need to look were Saddam got much of his money and wepons tech..hmm. The US, from Ronand Reagon. The US has a bad habit of supporting the wrong people. We kinda have to blame our selfs for his murdering of the Kurds, it was our tech that did it.
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Saddam got much of his money and wepons tech..hmm. The US, from Ronand Reagon. The US has a bad habit of supporting the wrong people. We kinda have to blame our selfs for his murdering of the Kurds, it was our tech that did it.
Incorrect. Perhaps if you do a bit of research you will find that the bulk of his weapons and technology was supplied by the Soviet Union. The French and Americans were far behind in those supplements.













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