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Old 10-30-2003, 01:46 PM
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Lube control / Fuel Power

Just excited and wanted to pass along some info

I used to be skeptical when it came to additives, but this product I have been using is different. They really should not be considered and additive because of how they work.

Read abou them here www.lubecontrol.com and also www.bobistheoilguy.com, under forums, oils and additives.

Just a great product that had me in awe when I ran my test after a couple months. I have never seen anything clean like fuel power and lube control.
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Old 10-30-2003, 08:25 PM
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Re: Lube control / Fuel Power

"Imagine the savings if you only had to change your oil every 10,000 miles instead of every 3,000 mile"
Today it's common to have oil change intervals of one year or 12500 miles... someone should tell them that.

OK, those products are just bogus. There are several reasons why you should change oil, they didn't mention any other than the cleaning part. Also, there is already cleaning addetives in motor oil when you buy it, and these are already optimised. Another thing they don't mention is that oil is the only thing that lubricates an engine, a solvent and a lot of dirt will only reduce lubrication.

Fuel power, increases the energy content of the fuel. Yeah, sure, especially with a by weight ratio of 1:640. With a ratio of 1:640 it wouldn't have been noticeable even if the energy content in the addetive was twice as high as normal gasoline. Also remember that fuel is a compromise between diffrent properties, they have of course already tried to get the energy content as high as possible.
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SaabJohan,

Today's oils do have cleaning additives in them, but nothing to what they could have. Don't buy what the oil companies tell you, they aren't going to make the best oil because it would put them out of business. I have proof these work, until you try them don't knock them.

If oils already had enough cleaning power then why all the sludge and build up? Most problems in cars today are caused by engine parts getting gunked up and coroided. Oil is the only thing that lubricates an engine, but it does it poorly in my opinion. Again I have seen the difference.

And on the fuel, your wrong they have not tried to get the energy content as high as possible. That's a ridiculous statement.

I used to think the way you do, but have seen the light and the savings. Fuel power helps in oxidation and other factors that help boost potential energy. A report done by the very well respected Dyson Analysis proves you very wrong.

Now, if you had tried these products and then said all you have you may have an argument. Please don't knock something before you have ever tried it.
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Old 11-03-2003, 04:11 PM
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Re: Lube control / Fuel Power

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SaabJohan,

Today's oils do have cleaning additives in them, but nothing to what they could have. Don't buy what the oil companies tell you, they aren't going to make the best oil because it would put them out of business. I have proof these work, until you try them don't knock them.

If oils already had enough cleaning power then why all the sludge and build up? Most problems in cars today are caused by engine parts getting gunked up and coroided. Oil is the only thing that lubricates an engine, but it does it poorly in my opinion. Again I have seen the difference.

And on the fuel, your wrong they have not tried to get the energy content as high as possible. That's a ridiculous statement.

I used to think the way you do, but have seen the light and the savings. Fuel power helps in oxidation and other factors that help boost potential energy. A report done by the very well respected Dyson Analysis proves you very wrong.

Now, if you had tried these products and then said all you have you may have an argument. Please don't knock something before you have ever tried it.
Can't stop laughing.... this have "snake oil" written all over. I guess you have no knowledge of tribology nor of automotivefuels considering your statements.

This almost sounds as commercial to me...
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SaabJohn,

I really don't want to get into a childish arguement here. I know they work, used to think like you and when I did no one could change my mind so I won't try to change yours.

Facts are what they are, when chemist and other scientist, who know way more than you or I, prove they work, and do what they say then I tend to be more open minded. My knowledge of tribology and automotive fuels greatly shadows whatever you claim to know so don't get into it with me on that.

For your sake I hope you open your mind just a little and see what these products can do. There are plenty of snake oils out there, which makes it hard for a quality product like this to really get out there, but it will, because it works.

Also, if you don't like these products or care....DON'T POST!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Lube control / Fuel Power

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My knowledge of tribology and automotive fuels greatly shadows whatever you claim to know so don't get into it with me on that.


Said the Snake Oil sales man to the Automotive enginer




I would delete this thread, but SaabJohn makes some good points about why such additives are simply a waste of money, and often bad for your car in the long run.


tjfree please go and sell your crap else where.
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