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Old 08-24-2003, 10:58 PM
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LS/Vtec Really that good?

I have a 1994 Integra LS w/ 110k miles on it. Its all stock. I'm at the point where i have some money where i can either modify my Integra or sell it and do something else. Many people have told me to either put a B16 or B18c(GSR) head on my LS and turn it into an LS/vtec. I know it will run me around $1000 because i would have to take it to a shop. Is this really going to make the car a lot faster? If i did the ls/vtec i would upgrade the pistons and cams, but i dont know if im really going to get that much horse power out of the car. Would i be better off upgrading another car? It seems like do this or buy a 95 Z28, but i dont think i really want to pay for the insurance/gas on the Z28. I'm quite torn. if anyone could assist me please respond or feel free to AIM me at Billab2ong.

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Old 08-24-2003, 11:21 PM
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ls/vtec's are pretty fucking powerfull.... my friend has a ls bottom and gsr head in his 95 civic coupe with intake and exhuast and it fucking pull's hard.... blow's alot of people away... he hasnt lost yet and if your gonna have i/h/e and internal work done.... dude you'll blow z28's out of the water man.... no problemo
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Old 08-24-2003, 11:37 PM
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Beating Z28's is pretty big claim for an I/H/E LS VTEC. Fast for a Civic doesnt mean fast, It means faster than stock(ricer context).
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Old 08-25-2003, 12:04 AM
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Indeed a LS/VTEC makes a powerful motor , but i doubt it would blow away a z28 camaro.
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keep the teg, go for LSVTEC, high cr pistons, CAI, 4-1 header, exhaust, some nice cams, and your car will be VERY MUCH faster than it is right now.
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Old 08-25-2003, 01:49 AM
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Re: LS/Vtec Really that good?

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ls/vtec's are pretty fucking powerfull.... my friend has a ls bottom and gsr head in his 95 civic coupe with intake and exhuast and it fucking pull's hard.... blow's alot of people away... he hasnt lost yet and if your gonna have i/h/e and internal work done.... dude you'll blow z28's out of the water man.... no problemo
It'll be quicker, but he won't be anywhere near blowing Z28's out of the water.
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Old 08-25-2003, 01:59 AM
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Putting a vtec head on a LS or CRV block doen't make it some turbo, supercharged v8 killing monster. Fully built you should be happy to gain 60-70hp, if that, over the original blocks rated power. And no, it isn't just going to blow a Camaro out of the water, maybe in a gutted rex, but definitely not in an Integra.
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ok i have to jump in here. sad to say i just sold my car. need something new to work on. anyways i had an lsvtec in my hatch. i destroyed a new mustang gt with flowmasters and intake. i mean by third i was about 2 cars ahead. now i know the z28 is faster then the gt but i dont think he should have any problem keeping up with a z28 with an lsvtec. but i will warn you, dont expect your car to be as fast as mine or any other swapped civic. the integras are considerably heavier which makes a big difference when it comes to NA motors. they dont have all the extra power to make up for added weight. for instance a friend of mine got the same engine setup i did in his 90 rs teg but his had slightly higher compression with a b16 head and mine had a gsr head with ONLY the primary butterfly open. we raced and i took him by three cars. i would suggest for you to save up, and go turbo if you want to screw with v8's.
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i'd rather drive a 17 second civic/teg then a 10 second z28. no matter how fast the z28 is, it's still a big hunk of domestic machine. stick to the teg, you'll definitely like what you get out of an ls/vtec
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Re: LS/Vtec Really that good?

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i'd rather drive a 17 second civic/teg then a 10 second z28. no matter how fast the z28 is, it's still a big hunk of domestic machine. stick to the teg, you'll definitely like what you get out of an ls/vtec
Fuck that, my mom has a 93 v8 Camaro, and I'd take that thing anyday, way fun to drive.
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An LS block and gsr head would still make less horsepower than the gsr complete motor right?
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An LS block and gsr head would still make less horsepower than the gsr complete motor right?
No. It would nake more.
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Old 08-25-2003, 02:53 PM
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How come? Ive never really understood why LS/Vtec is so powerful.
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Old 08-25-2003, 02:59 PM
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Re: LS/Vtec Really that good?

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How come? Ive never really understood why LS/Vtec is so powerful.
doesnt it have to do with the compression?
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Old 08-25-2003, 03:25 PM
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cuz the LS block is 1834cc vs. 1797cc displacement of GSR

and isnt the stroke like 2mm longer for the B18B, I heard that longer stroke usually = more TQ, so then there is another reason
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