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Old 07-22-2003, 11:56 AM
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Unhappy whats better buy nos or procharger for v6

i was just wondering would it be better to buy a pro/supercharger for bout 3 grand or nos for like 600 bucks what is better

oh and how long will nos last like once and then u go refill
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Old 07-22-2003, 11:31 PM
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Although I know pretty much nothing about The different Nitrous brands and their reliability... 600 dollars sounds pretty dangerous a price for the kit. I'm guessing it's a wet system, which unmaintained or policed can do some dmg (once again I know very little)

And ATI has been getting some horrible reviews on any of the S/C's they put out (things from bearings to hoses going bad in a few weeks...).

Personally I'd go with the Supercharger. You don't have to refill it (depending on how much of a shot your 6 will take depends on how fast your bottle empties...), perhaps it should pay for itself if you're going to use it quite pretty regularly for more power or only squeeze in emergencies. There are many different factors to both, such as the amount of back pressure you'll run the SC at... at 11psi (of backpressure) the 6 can hit 345hp. BUT in order to do this you'll have to change the injectors, your Air Intake (although I don't think it's required), and a bunch of other stuff I can't really remember right now.

I like the SC personally because it is constant power, which is what I'm looking for. And i think it's a bit more deserving of the mustang before you spray it. I'm still trying to figure otu if you can take any superchager and make it work on the 6 but that seems unlikely...

Also if you think an SC is the ticket to all your problems... start inside the engine before blowing it... you will get a LOT more power out of it (I mean all it does is try and put more air into the engine for bett ignition) before you put a blower on it. Same thing with your Nitrous idea.
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Old 07-23-2003, 02:23 PM
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600 dollars is about your average price for a good shot of nitrous. That is about the cost of the different kits I have looked at. The supercharger would be less of a hassle to take care of, simply because it just does its job once installed. You don't have to clean it as often as you would the NO2 kit, and it doesn't have to be refilled. The only draw backs with the SC is cost. I would love to buy a SC but I don't have the 2500-3500 dollars for one at the time, so $600 would be a lot easier to pull off. Also you can get kits that will kick on when you press the pedal all the way down, there for giving you that constant power like you were talking about with the supercharger. That is one othe nice thing about NO2 is that you can adjust it for when it kicks in, certain RPM's, when you hit the gas hard... so it NO2 isn't something I would rule out.
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Old 07-23-2003, 03:36 PM
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Everything you said was true but there are some misleading statements. What was meant by constant is that nitrous is only there when you arm it and usually only at full pedal depression. A S/C is thier at 1/2 pedal, 1/4/ and full. Nitrous also is only there when the bottle is full and a $40($4per pound, 10lbs bottle) per refill it adds up quick. Nitrous at a 125shot will last only about 7-8 1/4mile trips.
Yes there is nitrous timers that will kick it in at certain rpm and stuff etc.., but a decent one your talking $400. Then also nitrous is best utilized at certain pressure. So if you want the most from it you prob want a bottle heater $125.
Im not tellin people not to use nitrous but there is a lot of hidden costs involved.
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Old 07-23-2003, 04:24 PM
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Well I am glad that you corrected where I messed up. I am new at this and am not toataly aware of all the hidden charges or additional accessories needed. I should be because I have run into them with some installs of my own. I don't want to lead anybody the wrong way, so thanks for clearing my statements up.
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Old 07-23-2003, 05:10 PM
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my friend blew his engine with a 25shot, anything is possible depending on your engines condition. He raced it everyday, redlined it and smoked the tires regularly. If your gonna go nos get your engine rebuilt to handle it. If your gonna supercharge also make sure your engine is in pretty good shape. I would prefer supercharging, the power is always there, never have to refil a supercharger. Research for a good system, dont go for one thats cheap. Vortec superchargers look good, and whenever you get tired of the power you can always upgrade. Always expect the worst with nos. Make sure you engine can handle what ever it is your doing. I must admit though everytime i dreamed of getting a 94 style it was always with a vortec super charger with a nice daul exhaust system, god only knows why i didnt want a V8. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.
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Old 07-23-2003, 10:12 PM
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thanks for all your help guys but i have come to the conclusion that i wiill probally jsut keep on saving and get a supercharger after finding out that nos can extremmly harm your engeine and has some hidden cost thanks again
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WTF? Your friend blew up the engine on a 25shot?? And you HAVE to build the engine either way. Ive heard MANY MANY Horror stories from people blowing up their engines from bad tuning on the blower, i dont even want to get on how many have ruined their engines going Turbo . If you run boost without it being good and properly tuned beware of Detonation. If you plan on running more than 10lbs of boost... You better beef up the internals cause youre on borrowed time. Same with Nitrous. Your engine should take a 75shot easily and STILL be VERY safe if you take proper precautions. BUT remember, BOTH can be VERY harmful to your engine without the proper setup and/or tune.
On a side note, Ive been hearing that Prochargers centrifugals are crap now. Do with whatever you can afford right now, if you find it useful to buy a blower... by all means wait and save up your money. Just remember theres also hidden costs on blowers like Fuel Injectors, dyno tunes (VERY IMPORTANT!!) and some other crap that i cant seem to remember right now* * All these seem to add up $400-600 to the price of the supercharger. And like i already mentioned, if you want more boost, Youll have to forge internals.

*off-topic* Vortechs and Paxtons are one of the best supercharging companys. I really dont like centifugals though, mainly cause i have an auto. Id rather strap-on a twin screw Kenne Bell blower on my engine and enjoy the low-end boost compared to the high-end feel of a centrifugal.

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I will say 1 thing for Vortec when you buy a kit from them if you need a custom chip, bigger injectors, feul pump, its included. They take care of everythin and its very safe if you just do what they tell you.
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Old 07-24-2003, 02:58 AM
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I will say 1 thing for Vortec when you buy a kit from them if you need a custom chip, bigger injectors, feul pump, its included. They take care of everythin and its very safe if you just do what they tell you.
Thank you for posting that, I forgot wtf it was that was needed while i was typing and was too lazy to search
Thats basically what every other Supercharger requires...
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Old 07-24-2003, 03:46 AM
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No prob. What you said was right cause not all companies are as good at taking care of the details. I heard good things of Paxton, my next part is goin to be a Paxton Novi 2000
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Old 07-24-2003, 09:59 AM
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oh and to clear up what i said about blowing his engine on a 25shot, it was a 240SX that he beats the shit out of for years, everywere he looked it said it could handle a 75shot but thats only on a good engine thats been taken care of. Just make sure your engine can handle forced induction, with proper care and not beating on it, it should be in good enough condition for a supercharger and maybe some nos, but i think nos is a little risky no matter how good of condition your engines in. My dad supercharged his mustang with over 100k miles and its been running good for almost a year and a half. Good luck
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