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Jlink2004
02-21-2004, 09:43 PM
I am a Die hard American Classic enthusiast but I dont hate imports with a passion, I simply dislike them. My problem with hondas and other ricers is that They are so widely available, everyone and their little brother has one and because they sound like someone done pissed off a bumble bee. Also because all these kids get them put some plastic wheel covers on them and a 4 foot wing on the back and think their cool. One more thing for all you performance minded import owners and your sacred wings. Think about it, the point of a spoiler/wing is to increase downforce right? but all your imports with the exception of a few like the eagle talon are front wheel drive so putting more downforce on the back end thereby lifting the front end up will give you LESS traction NOT more Giant wings screw up Hondas they dont help them.

ForgottenX
02-26-2004, 05:35 PM
saddly I agree with you .. i do love imports though but the fact of the wings is soo true ... thats Y i drive a rwd supra :) and don't plan to do any body mods until i'm done with my engine and drive train ...

aznxthuggie
02-26-2004, 11:31 PM
because most (NOTE: I SAID MOST, NOT ALL) Honda owners make the worst modifications to their cars, such as Altezza lights and other ugly ass shit, and then claim that they're the fastest thing on the road and can take all challengers. i'll admit, there are some hardcore guys out there that own Honda's that are truly fast (such as Spoon Honda's), but the majority of the ones you hear about today are ugly-ass show cars with huge, heavy, ugly body kits, heavy ugly chrome wheels, neon kits, altezza's, aluminum wings and nothing done to the engine.

i duno why u seem to hate on hondas.. even if u put in an intake and think ur car is fast.. it IS FASTER even marginally faster than the stock car.. so whats there to complain about.. looks are also subjective.. what if someone lives in an area where altezzas and fancy lights make ur car? then whatever u drive won't be nice in their eyes.. don't be so biased.. looks are subjective

aznxthuggie
02-26-2004, 11:35 PM
I am a Die hard American Classic enthusiast but I dont hate imports with a passion, I simply dislike them. My problem with hondas and other ricers is that They are so widely available, everyone and their little brother has one and because they sound like someone done pissed off a bumble bee. Also because all these kids get them put some plastic wheel covers on them and a 4 foot wing on the back and think their cool. One more thing for all you performance minded import owners and your sacred wings. Think about it, the point of a spoiler/wing is to increase downforce right? but all your imports with the exception of a few like the eagle talon are front wheel drive so putting more downforce on the back end thereby lifting the front end up will give you LESS traction NOT more Giant wings screw up Hondas they dont help them.

thats why we put body kits on our cars so it'll create downforce equally on the car lol.. anyways it'll just push the back of the car down once ur going like 60mph n faster.. it wont' make the front of the car higher.. just the back lower.. and some people like the sound of an exhaust.. i wanted a deep sounded exhaust on my accord.. but i found out a majority of the "rice" exhausts actually make ur car slower

aznxthuggie
02-26-2004, 11:47 PM
hey now......

I agree, Hondas suck, they're the worst form of rice especially with the fucn fart cans....they piss me off too when they put the weird taillights on it, and they're hey man, this is cool, and i'm like hey man, no its not, shut up

plus, dude, wtf???

wisconsin?

im from wisconsin........well.......okay............they'r e a fucn load of ricers here, haha :banghead: :eek7:

Asians.........

lol asians? i live in rosemead.. which is near montebello.. n its fulla mexican ricers.. they're even worse than the asian ricers so dont start being racist now

broddie50
02-27-2004, 12:14 AM
Rice is Rice, the persons race has nothing to do with anything. If the shoe fits....

skrow03GT
02-27-2004, 01:34 AM
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chavocrazy69
03-03-2004, 02:16 AM
These people that hate Hondas are feeling jealous. I think. I mean, don't these Chevy Malibu drivers feel like dumbasses when their pieces fail after 50k miles? Hondas are made to last, and thats why they are expensive, which alienates all kinds of cheap people. Eat that.

chavocrazy69
03-03-2004, 02:47 PM
Read any car magazine or speak with owners of recent GM products and tell me that GM is back in the game. GM is still tying its shoes while everyone else is out playing.

jon@af
03-03-2004, 04:45 PM
These people that hate Hondas are feeling jealous. I think. I mean, don't these Chevy Malibu drivers feel like dumbasses when their pieces fail after 50k miles? Hondas are made to last, and thats why they are expensive, which alienates all kinds of cheap people. Eat that.
You're right, they were made to last; they are economy cars. Besides that, I always thought Hondas were pretty cheap vehicles, and I highly doubt that anyone is jealous of honda owners. Why would someone be jealous of honda owners and then go spend more money on another car when that money could have gotten them a honda? See where I'm going? As for reliability of GM, I work at a GM delearship and I have seen MANY vehicles come in with 150k, and even a couple with 270k miles on them, just getting regular maintenance(i.e. oil changes, tire rotation and such). If you look at the engines, you'll see that overall they are good build quality. The 3.8 is one of the best engines they have ever built; remember the GN? That's a Series I 3.8 with a turbo charger, GREAT car, and something I would take over any turboed honda or acura, even if it was done right. I have a 3.8 in my car and I didn't have to replace the head gaskets until 80k miles, I don't know if that means much to you but oh well. Hell, even the 3.4 is a strong engine, if it weren't for the damn leaks that engine would be more well thought of.
I used to be the same way you are ya know? I used to swear that ford cars suck, specifically the mustang, but you know what? I don't think that way anymore. Just because there is a vehicle I would rather have in place of a mustang, doesnt mean that they are crap, it just means that I favor the other vehicle more.

gonenuts15792
03-03-2004, 04:51 PM
t. I have a 3.8 in my car and I didn't have to replace the head gaskets until 80k miles.

Why did you have to replace the head gaskets so soon. I have a Park Ave with the 3.8 that has 193,000 on it and have never had to replace the head gaskets. Or is this the 3.8 that Ford makes.

MR2Driver
03-03-2004, 05:16 PM
thats why we put body kits on our cars so it'll create downforce equally on the car lol.. anyways it'll just push the back of the car down once ur going like 60mph n faster.. it wont' make the front of the car higher.. just the back lower.. and some people like the sound of an exhaust.. i wanted a deep sounded exhaust on my accord.. but i found out a majority of the "rice" exhausts actually make ur car slower

1. Im willing to bet very few of those body kits have been wind tunnel tested and proven to reduce drag and increase downforce.

2. On a FWD you want more traction over your drive wheels, that spoiler does nothing for you. During a drag launch your weight transfers to the back and your front wheels just spin. Do you really want to increase the weight over your rear wheels?

3. Getting an exhaust because you like the sound of it isnt wrong. Its your car and your money. The line ends there... too many people cross that line when they overestimate the gains of said exhaust, and consider their cars "sports cars" becuase they sound such a way.

jon@af
03-03-2004, 05:57 PM
Well, we had just gotten the car and I went over everything and checked them out and there was a problem in the gaskets; a bit of a defect, so I replaced it. It's the GM model. Like I say, it was a defective gasket, which come about every once in a while.

gonenuts15792
03-03-2004, 06:14 PM
oh.

youngvr4
03-03-2004, 06:42 PM
I am a Die hard American Classic enthusiast but I dont hate imports with a passion, I simply dislike them. My problem with hondas and other ricers is that They are so widely available, everyone and their little brother has one and because they sound like someone done pissed off a bumble bee. Also because all these kids get them put some plastic wheel covers on them and a 4 foot wing on the back and think their cool. One more thing for all you performance minded import owners and your sacred wings. Think about it, the point of a spoiler/wing is to increase downforce right? but all your imports with the exception of a few like the eagle talon are front wheel drive so putting more downforce on the back end thereby lifting the front end up will give you LESS traction NOT more Giant wings screw up Hondas they dont help them.

i like both import and american, and honda is known to last long, even lots of american car owners will admit that. why do they put wings on the proffesional import cars that race? moderator carrnuut has went over this plenty of times, wings are not bad, they actually help. i own a vr4 with a sticker on the side of it that says south bend clutch, and, i've blown the doors off many american cars. and why are people on here talking down on asians, as if there dumb. most the ricers around here are white, and lots of asians have 12 sec integra's. so what, does that mean to talk down on white's.

please people , no racism!! :nono:

jon@af
03-03-2004, 08:07 PM
i like both import and american, and honda is known to last long, even lots of american car owners will admit that. why do they put wings on the proffesional import cars that race? moderator carrnuut has went over this plenty of times, wings are not bad, they actually help. i own a vr4 with a sticker on the side of it that says south bend clutch, and, i've blown the doors off many american cars. and why are people on here talking down on asians, as if there dumb. most the ricers around here are white, and lots of asians have 12 sec integra's. so what, does that mean to talk down on white's.

please people , no racism!! :nono:
I agree, racism is just plain dumb, and besides that, all the Asian-Americans that I have met have been very knowledgable and intelligent. Stereotypes suck.

chavocrazy69
03-04-2004, 12:02 AM
There actually is no need to get all excited over some fucking retarded crap like this. I formed my opinions because my dad has been a mechanic for over 15 years and a lot of the cars that come in the shop for huge repairs while having very low miles. I completely agree with your statement that car magazines have given GM heaps of praise over the last couple of months, but you have to understand that they always give their compliments in a kind of, "the new Buick so and so is cool, but" kind of way. I'm really sorry if you feel offended by my statements gonenuts15792, but the truth is, you can't deny the impact the Honda motor company has made on the cars of today. Even including fleet sales, the Taurus and Impala STILL don't outsell the Accord. That is a testament to quality engineering. As far as Bob Lutz is concerned, let's not bullshit ourselves here. Do you honestly expect one man to undo the damage caused by decades of mistakes? The new Malibu was supposed to be all about Lutz, and where is it's flair and excitement? As far as convincing me of the quality of GM products, we will have to see in the future. There are a lot of promising products in the GM pipeline. I am anxious to see how the new products stack up. But for now...the sad truth is that GM is behind the times. Also, I'm not ALL HONDA or anything, I think people have that wrong. I am currently lusting over the new Mustang and the upcoming Grand Am looks awesome. And after all who THE FUCK CARES WHAT YOU DRIVE????JUST DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!!!!

gonenuts15792
03-04-2004, 12:12 AM
I didn't find your post offending in anyway.

chavocrazy69
03-04-2004, 01:17 AM
Good. It will be better for everyone involved. Bye.

Nexagen
03-06-2004, 07:34 AM
WHY HONDAS SUCK - "ACCORD"ing

1) #1 stolen car in the world. The security system can be easily disabled by reaching underneath the fender in most civics and you can kiss your honda goodbye.
(I know 2 people that got their cars stolen, one had an accord and another friend of mine had a civic)

2) Aside from the Acura TL the interior looks... well pretty cheap and uh BASIC also not to mention NORMAL. Not exactly a Mercedes Benz in terms of luxury. Even the NSX cockpit cant compete to the looks of the cockpit in the Chevrolet Z06 or the Dodge Viper or Ferrari or Lamborghini. My friend has a 95 prelude and it looks basic and cheap. I showed him my 2000 Eclipse and his words were "Woa man, this is crazy! It's like a spaceship!" I guess it is a spaceship comparing to the cheap honda interior.

3) Hondas usually are not good for building a race car, unless you own AEM and drag race their 1500 HP Civic. At best you can add maybe 200 extra horses and that's with a turbo and other mods. Even the NSX has less than 300 horses and that's a supposed to be honda's top of the line car. I'll take a 1995 Mazda RX-7 Twin Turbo instead and modify it to 900 HP any day.

4) It's a car for your mom and not for you if you have a need for speed. I consider the Civic as a notch up from Geo Metro.

5) They can look so ricey I wish I had a gun to shoot myself than to see one in person. I would not be caught dead in one.

6) Honda owners usually boast about how powerful their "V-TEC" engines are. Yeah sure it is Variable Timed which makes the engine more efficient. Like if it is only a specialty trait of honda. Guess what the Lamborghini Diablo has the same thing only they call it Valve Timing Management. The 03-04 Eclipse GTS also comes in at 210 HP because they also have the same thing. "Yeah my integra has a powerful V-TEC engine. It's one of the best engines in the world!" two words sucka: LS6 and Twin Turbo 13B FD3S.

Heck I bet if you ask any kid with a civic and you ask them what V-TEC stands for 75% of them wont know! :rofl:

7) Hondas pretty much maintain their same normal and basic design and style. This years civic wont look that much different then the one coming out next year.

8) If you own one you are one of these: A lazy or fat person, someone who does'nt give a damn about style and drives anything on wheels, just needs a car to go to work, lives in a fantasy world thinking your are the fastest, more car for less money. Oh and dont forget to add a 8" muffler!

Temple of V-TEC Translation - Temple of RICERS

V alve
T imed
E ngine
C rap

What does Honda stand for?
H idious
O utside
N o
D amn
A cceleration

Their main purpose in this life for hondas is to get smoked in every category even their own.

aznxthuggie
03-06-2004, 02:32 PM
dude whats wrong with you? PMS?

MelficeRSX
03-06-2004, 10:45 PM
I think that I have a problem:banghead:...I hate hondas, but i like acuras. Thouogh i do admit some hondas are friggin sweet like the s2000 and the si hatchback. But I dont know whats the deal with that? Like the other guy said, as long as its fast its nice. and so far everything is basically nice.

TechBandit
03-07-2004, 05:40 PM
MY problem is that ever ricer and there mama's mama has a civic. Everywhere i got i see a damn 'tricked-out' civic and there shit! I dunno... RSX is cool and S2000 are cool.. but i think Civic ruined it for me even thinking about buyin a Honda or Acura

chavocrazy69
03-08-2004, 02:49 AM
dude, MelficeRSX, calm the fuck down. Jesus, it's only cars, there is no need to get all pmsy over gay shit. Calm the fuck down fag! Drive it and shut the fuck up.

TechBandit
03-08-2004, 07:21 AM
He was just voicing his opinion... So you should both calm down..

MelficeRSX
03-08-2004, 01:41 PM
thanks TechBandit, but I can handle my own. CHAVOCRAZY69 you are the fag here! you fucking bitch how and where the hell do you come from to talk shit like that? I bet you barley know shit about a honda...FUCKIN PANSEY! back off my nuts and hate hondas not my opinion!!!!!!!!!!:nono:

chavocrazy69
03-08-2004, 06:08 PM
How can you say you "hate" Hondas so much, and have RSX on your name????? WTF? Just what the hell do you think an Acura is???? Find the dipshit Forum and post there. This forum is for REAL car people. People who KNOW the diff between cars.

-Josh-
03-08-2004, 06:46 PM
This is rediculus your acting like a bunch of middle schoolers, all of you need to grow up. This site wasn't set up so you people could name call and bicker over pointless shit, now grow up or shut up. If you want to keep bickering like little kids, do it with private messages.

chavocrazy69
03-08-2004, 07:45 PM
Hey thanks Z28Josh, and if I've offended anyone I'm sorry. I will try to grow up and stop this dumb bickering. No more arguing over Hondas. If you don't like Hondas then thats your opinion right? I don't like some cars, but I don't put my opinions all over a website. I'm done here.

TechBandit
03-10-2004, 06:47 PM
Even tho thats what i said before... nicely put.

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