2005 Mustang Concept.

the 2005 mustang concept!
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/concept/s197/pics/Coupe4.jpg
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/concept/s197/pics/Coupe1.jpg
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/concept/s197/pics/12-28-6.jpg
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/concept/s197/pics/EngineDrawing.jpg

The new concept is a supercharged and intercooled 4.6L 281ci V-8 with 400 horsepower and 390 ft-lbs of torque. The transmission is a 6-speed manual (or a 5-speed auto), and the gear ratio is 3.55:1. The overall length of the car is 182 inches, the width is 74.7 inches, and the height is 50.8 inches. For comparison's sake, the current Mustang is 183.2 inches long, 73.1 inches wide, 53.1 inches tall for the coupe, and 53.2 inches tall for the convertible. The concept model has sequential turn signals and integrated wind guards in the convertible's roll bar.
all I have to say is gorgeous.......:eek2:

Kinda looks like a Bently Arange or Aston Martin. I think it looks pretty nice. Too opulent looking for a stang though.

it looks alright to me but i don't care for the current trend of american car companies. taking classic cars and trying to make them current and more stylish instead of doing something COMPLETELY new. i'm sure that at their current rate they will (or have) experimented with every classic :(

i'm sure my wife would drive it

Its also going to have independent suspension !!!!!!!!!!!! as well as paddle shifting option,

I love the retro-60s looks.

I, someone who isnt the biggest fan of mustangs, actually like this car. Not so much the body of it, which really could have been designed with a little bit more style and badass look to it, but the engine with its supercharged intercooled 4.6L, is bad as hell. 400HP is more then some trucks out there and is more than the WS6 by pontiac(which is going bye bye:( ). right now if you want more horsepower youre better off getting a cobra than a GT, now you can get a GT and be done with it.

The picture of the engine looks like a great cut and paste job. Plus some good computer graphics.

Originally posted by Fliquer


I love the retro-60s looks.
I'm the same way.

Originally posted by DemonZX
The picture of the engine looks like a great cut and paste job. Plus some good computer graphics.
it said it was a drawling, but I see what you mean.

I like the mix of old and new look it has. Usly i dont like it when car comp. do that but in this case its i dont mind it at all.

damn...i usually hate mustangs...but 400hp, u can't argue with that. those are some impressive numbers, and i could stand that look a lot more than the way they look now. nice car :D

still a Mustang...


Sorry but I had to say it. :D

Its ok, the styling is fresh and new so it'll take a bit for me to warm up to it... that is if they put it into production. I doubt the standard GT's will come Supercharged though. Concepts are always outrageously over done.

the supercharged version will obviously get the cobra badge----but the Dew chassis its going on----will make a monster difference in what can be done suspension wise ojn the Gts & cobras. Won't be same ole mustang after all.

I'm loving it! Lookwise anyways! Never been a fan of the "small" v8, but the supercharger is supposed to make up for that I guess. Read sig for my thoughts on that:D But anyways, love the new look. 2005 needs to get here so I can get one....No, wait, I'm getting a 2005 Vette instead!

Tis ok.

I was expecting something a little more aggressive.

A little bit of old school styling, with today's power.
Sweet:D :D

From what I read, the 05 will not be having a Cobra.
So then the GT, with its 3v SOHC will be pushing 400 hp with the blower.

DAMN.

where did you read that-------there has been a cobra model every year since 93, except for the 2000 year because of the 99 fisaco. I don't believe there not being a cobra. If it isn't a brand new cobra---it will be a carry over. But unless Ford says so, which it hasn't, there will be a Cobra----barring another quality problem like in 99.

2000 and 2002.

;)

Someone found something about it on IMBOC.com

the front part is nice but what about the rear?

I thik the front is awsome, but the rear panels are a bit chubby. Kind of like they took the body of the 65 and cut the center portion out and pushed it all togather. Something just doesnt click, but Im willing to over look that.:D

thats a bullit website. and there is nothing there talking about the cancelling of a 2005 cobra model. If anything----I'd go by what blueovalnews.com states-----since they are Ford's watchdog service---and there is no anticipation of not producing the cobra model any of the upcoming years.

Originally posted by Los
Tis ok.

I was expecting something a little more aggressive.



:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Los
From what I read, the 05 will not be having a Cobra.
So then the GT, with its 3v SOHC will be pushing 400 hp with the blower.

DAMN.

I must be confused here, I was pretty sure that it was going to be the same motor as 03...Supercharged 4.6 L DOHC, I have not read anything saying it was SOHC...or the GT motor. If I'm wrong please correct me. From what little I have read they were using the same motor with slight changes to boost up to 400 HP instead of current 390HP.

the guys are getting it wrong. The blower will be on the cobra model. Ford isn't going to supercharge the GT anytime soon. The cobra just got the blower on it-----why would Ford build a GT with the same blower to match the Cobras performance. It doesn't make sense. Besides-----everyone is getting confused because they saw that the concept model was blown and had a GT badge! This is a CONCEPT----not the final production model. Its blown for concept purposes. the current GT stands at 260hp----ITS NOT GETTING BLOWN--------because if it were----------Ford would have to match the current sticker on the Cobra for the GT. You will not see a blown GT for $28K. Guys are misreading the concept!

also, the Cobra model is standard every year------and there is no source from Ford even speculating about the Cobra missing a year anytime soon. Thats just a bullshit rumor that has no truth to it. Lastly, if you read the article on the mustang concept-----towards the end of the article it states that the Cobra will have more of an aggresive look that the Gt. There is your proof that the Cobra will not miss a beat.

I hope that they can improve their interior design in this new model.
the current mustang's interior is not that good.
what do you think?

the concept model---has a pretty outrageous interior---that being good of course. I just wish Ford would get away from this nostalgia BS and do retro models for anniversary or limited production specials. I think redesigning the vehicle this way----is going the wrong way. The New Edge design was the right way-----now they are screwing it all up. Hopefully they'll improve upon the new design.

I like it, for the most part. Normally I'm cynical on Stangs, being a big-burley GM fanatic (though, oddly, I drive a "little" V8). But I must say that this car is a dreamy concoction.

I hope the interior, in it's final morph, doesn't mirror the current one. I kinda like the current one, but it's dated way back to the ancient days of 1994 or 95 when it first rolled out.

I'd like to see some billet or at least some billet looking parts. Stangs and metal are all American and a natural combination.

And I'd agree with everyone that says NO GT will be supercharged. That's a bit off the wall. Cobra, yes. GT, no.

The biggest thing I miss is the LX trim badge. I never really like the old boxy looking 80's Stangs but the LX 5.0 was a good idea. Kinda like a strip-down budget GT. All the muscle, none of the jewelry, just what us southern folk like (except for maybe a nice loud chrome-tipped exhaust).

Sorry, but the last decent Mustang I saw was in 1994... back when the body matched the interior (rounded) and the tail lights had narrow horizontal slats. This new design reminds me of the new Thunderbird (in other words, :apuke: ).

The styling job on the front makes the car look like its getting butt-fkked and can't stand it...
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/concept/s197/pics/Coupe1.jpg

Look at the way the eyebrows bend down at the sides and the grille looks like a big mouth gasping for air. A very weak-wristed design.

Compare it to this:

http://www.operators-server.de/picies/S2000.jpg

The inward slant of the eyes looks evil, like its going to attack its prey and kill everything on the road:smoka:

I see your point DMC- it does kinda have a this worried look. Oh well- at least they didn't take the spin that Lexus has and make it look like someone tried to scalp it and pull it's eyes around to the side of the head (Chevy had the same brain fart with the dufus looking front of the new Silverado series-- looks way too pansy compared to the Ram and the Ford Super Duty)

gosh thats an ugly S2000... :apuke:

Ya, go 94/95 tail lights. Its all about the style.

the 94 stang was absolutely probably the ugliest New Edge stang ever. Have you ever seen a 94 with an aftermarket catback----looks completely ridiculous. Sorry----but the 94s look like absolute shit-----and I don't think anyone will agree that the 94s look better than the current stangs. Anyone who says yes----is just lying.

Originally posted by DMC12
Compare it to this:

http://www.operators-server.de/picies/S2000.jpg

The inward slant of the eyes looks evil, like its going to attack its prey and kill everything on the road:smoka: [/B]

Or it kinda looks like it has down syndrome-It all depends on your veiw and personal taste.

I actually like both cars, but why try to compare the Honda to a Mustang that is not even in production?

Originally posted by vortech
the 94 stang was absolutely probably the ugliest New Edge stang ever. Have you ever seen a 94 with an aftermarket catback----looks completely ridiculous. Sorry----but the 94s look like absolute shit-----and I don't think anyone will agree that the 94s look better than the current stangs. Anyone who says yes----is just lying.

There are actually many people who prefer the 94-98 mustang body instead of the new edge. They both have there strong points. Just all those boxy edges on the 99-04 dont cut it, to volkswagon THING looking.

the 94-98s have terrible looking side doors and the hood----is just so uninventive in appearance.

That is your opinion, the same could be said about all the straight and flat plains on the 99- up. Just buy and drive what you like.

Originally posted by vortech
the 94-98s have terrible looking side doors and the hood----is just so uninventive in appearance.

I have a 95 mustang, And I love it. The interior matches the exterior perfectly. The car has very simular lines as the 99+, some are just rounded and not as sharp. I like the Hood on my car, it has two very distinct lines running to the front, that matches up perfectly with the front end, and has two vents. I think you need to relook the 94-95 mustang, because you obviously missed some things.

I actually like the tail lights on my car better than the 96+, I don't like the three verticles, I think they are "uninventive". I prefer the style that I have. Your opinion is simplely that, and it just doesn't mean Jack in the real world, and neither does mine. Just because you choose not to drive 94-95 mustang doesn't mean that they are ugly, it just means you don't have good taste( in my opinion, which as I stated before doesn't mean Jack). The doors are almost identical on the 99+ mustangs, so I think you need some new glasses.

Just because your wife is ugly and I wouldn't bang her, doesn't mean I am going to tell you, so don't act like my car is ugly and you are too good to drive it. (No I am not saying you have an ugly wife, How would I know, Just using an example)

I like the looks of the 94-95 Mustang personally... I like the rounded edges.

you can point out whatever you want------but 94-98s are not appealing at all.

Originally posted by vortech
you can point out whatever you want------but 94-98s are not appealing at all.


Then a bit of advice. Dont drive, buy, or look at them.

I have both a 98 and an 01. I like the 98 body better but the 01 does have its quirks.

thanks for the advice----thats why I spent my money on an 01.---so I wouldn't be wasting it.

Originally posted by vortech
thanks for the advice----thats why I spent my money on an 01.---so I wouldn't be wasting it.


No problem, If you ever need advice again just ask.;)

you got it-----when I'm looking to mismanage my money---I'll be sure to seek you out. :alien:

You do that. Do you need my number? fax? email?
Wish I could manage my money as good and have an 01 cobra to pay for the next 6 years. And spend as much on it with all the performance parts that you could of bought a 03 with a warrenty.

Ok, if we could get back to the topic of this thread for a second. I just wanna point out how the automotive media is clinging on to the 2005 concept Mustang. Is this a sign of big things to come for Ford? They will be stupid not to put this car into production. About those 94-98 Mustangs, they are very unatractively styled. Ford was smart to change to the squared off headlights and the big scoops on the doors.

I don't remember where I read this but I believe it was in Motortrend or on corral.net but I think Ford is going to use a 285hp 5.0L engine in the new mustang GT and a 210 hp 3.0L v6, I believe I read it in the motortrend issue that compares the new viper and the new vette.

still can make more power and handle better than any stock 03.

i gotta admit i am usualy the first one to bash american cars...but in this case my intial reation is ...wow. i can't wait to see one on the road. perhaps even buy one...oh god my import-loving friends will kill me if they read this :)

Nope I was wrong I just read in automobile magazine yesterday that Ford scrapped the idea of reviving the 5.0 and is going with a 300hp 4.6L v8 for the GT the v6 will still be the 215hp 3.0L

ford hasn't scrapped the idea of the 5.0L----it will be coming back in the stangs in the year 2005 or 2006. The new 5.0L crate engine offered by Ford racing---is what the new 5.0L is going to be similar to. From what I've read at blue oval news---the 5.0L engines----will be compatable to the 4.6L parts that are now available. Thats pretty damn impressive if thats the case.

Hmm thinking it out, the pictures didn't show. I'll have a look on the internet and be back with my opinion on it.

Awww looks worse than the GTO in my opinion. Reminds me of the 65-74 Mustangs. I don't think they would sell good if they came out.

The new GTs have a blower on em... At least on the concept. If that is the real GT, then look at around 400 hp.

Blower? Why in the heck would they put a blower on a car that might go into production?

Originally posted by Scott 02
Blower? Why in the heck would they put a blower on a car that might go into production?

for the hell of it? why not? i mean its not like it will hurt the car any.

no but come on now, a blower? who the heck needs one of those to go to the supermarket or around town...bunch of show boats :mad:

Originally posted by Scott 02
Awww looks worse than the GTO in my opinion. Reminds me of the 65-74 Mustangs. I don't think they would sell good if they came out.

The idea is to look like an old Mustang. Get rid of the ugly plastic grille and you have a beautiful car. It will sell great, at least for people who appreciate classic cars and how beautiful they are. I hate the old Stangs, but this is a beauty... well, almost.

just my opinion, but I think the front end is the best thing about the car. Then again i'm obsessed with 60's stangs.:D