2005 Mustang Concept.

That says alot about your opinion. Mine is that the rest of the car is great looking but the front end makes it look 35 years older

hybridsol,

Agreed, the front looks way sharp. I am also big in the older Stangs, funny thing is I own a Boss 302 Cougar Eliminator:rolleyes: It was cheaper, way cheaper.

I hope the production model looks like the concept.

whoah

that looks tight. Old school combined wiht new technology-i like it

so this is exactly how the 2005 stangs are gonna look like?

i want the fastback model i think it looks better than the convertible although i like the conv too looks like a shelpby but ive always like fastbacks better. i just saw a boss 302 fastback like 67 or 68 yesterday

-GTi-VR6_A3

dude that does look tight:frog: :frog: :frog:

Originally posted by Scott 02
no but come on now, a blower? who the heck needs one of those to go to the supermarket or around town...bunch of show boats :mad:

If your only going to use the car as a grocery getting then you don't deserve to own one! :smoker2: There are plenty of die hard Ford Mustang fans that would kill to have a blower set up on a stock Mustang! The gear heads of this sport are the ones Ford has designed this car for, and well to help boost new sales among a the new hotrod generation.

To be honest with you. I am not one that is too crazy with this design either. But then again i have seen some other '05 concept models that i would kill to own. This just happens to not be the one. Even at this, i think it could have been even worse. Look at when the 1990 Mustang body style came out. (not first year of that body style i don't think). Mustang almost went out of buisiness it was so unappealing. I think this design has potential, especially in the other concepts. I just wish they would have judges with better taste. I also say the same thing with the camaro concepts. Some awsome looks, but obviously they havn't made any decisions yet.

Originally posted by pontiactrac
To be honest with you. I am not one that is too crazy with this design either. But then again i have seen some other '05 concept models that i would kill to own. This just happens to not be the one. Even at this, i think it could have been even worse. Look at when the 1990 Mustang body style came out. (not first year of that body style i don't think). Mustang almost went out of buisiness it was so unappealing. I think this design has potential, especially in the other concepts. I just wish they would have judges with better taste. I also say the same thing with the camaro concepts. Some awsome looks, but obviously they havn't made any decisions yet.


Mustang almost went out of business? LOL that's a good one.
Actually the 90 body style you mention came out in 87, but the FOX platform started in 79.

Yes, ford thought about replacing the rear wheel drive Mustang with a front wheel drive Japanese designed car. One idea was to work with Mazda to create a similar platform that could be shared by both companies. The reason for this was Ford was concerned about getting caught in the middle of another fuel crisis, which made the consumer want economical cars, not muscle cars, at that time.

Once the public became aware of this, though many magazine articles,
the public quickly informed Ford that there was a demand for a rear wheel drive all American performance car. Ford quickly changed tack and gave their front wheel drive car the "Probe" badge. The probe was introduced in 89, and Mazda's version is know as the "MX6." Plus why would Ford want to be counterproductive and kill off a very successful, legendary product that was selling in high numbers.

This is no longer a concept car the production car will be coming out june 2004 and the cobra nov 2004. Talked to some ford hotshot at the chicago auto show. It will have a retro interior, much like 67 mustang seats but with headrests. That red porno interior is obviously thrown together at the last minute since they havent finished the final production. Personally I applaude ford for not being such a little bitch. They always try to appeal to grocery getters and the gearhead ford fans get screwed in the ass. This car is a step in the right direction for ford. They are finally growing some balls. All they have to do is throw in a supercharged 5.4L in the cobra and I will be happy.

If Ford was heading in the right direction---they would steer mustang concepts towards original designs---not 'bite offs' from the stangs of yester-year. To mess with the New Edge design, was simply a big mistake. But I'm sure Ford will return to the New Edge design 2 decades from now, when they again are faced with 'no new' ideas from their design department.

I am sorry to say this but car designs of today are completely crapalicious, with a few exceptions. They all look alike. Take a look at the older Chrysler sebring or cirrus, one of those garbage cars. The front end looked exactly like a sn-95 mustang and the rear looked exactly like a camaro. Thats not good design and ingenuity thats copying the same aerodynamic souless designs. Today they throw a pile of clay into the wind tunnel and whatever forms is the new design of the car. That is why they all look alike. Ford has finally decided to dump a chassis that they recycled for years. They are taking a step in the right direction with state of the art engine and chassis and a classic design that has character, and authenticity.

What makes me interested in a car is its presence and style. You take a look at a car with both and it makes your mouth water. The old mustangs made me puke, except for the superstallion. The design that ford created had a lot of potential and we see this in the saleens and steedas but ford just trashed it. Everytime I see a 94-95 mustang i expect a blonde high school chearleader driving it. It had no style whatsoever. This new design is scary I cannot wait to see what saleen and steeda do with them and maybe for a change, the camaroes and WR6's will be scared to pull up at a light.

the current Mach 1s and the Gts and the current style Cobras ------ have a look all their own------and are extremely mouth watering to the public. Ford is trying to reinvent a particular car------that through its record sales over the past 10 years-----needs no reinvention. The camaro & firebird need to be reinvented-------since their droopy sales have shown customers to be disinterested. But the mustang on the other hand, is in a sales category of its own. I think Ford will look back on this----and realize that they made a mistake. If they want to go retro----they should make special editions like the Bullit, Mach 1, etc.---and limit the amount----as they have done-------and go even a step further-------by ballooning the price. They are guaranteed to sell----no matter the price. To completely alter the design-----is just foolish-------especially considering that the mustang has outrageous sales. The only thing I look forward to in the new mustang------is an improved stock suspension and stock handling. The SN95s didn't overwhelm anyone with their stock setup----but it by no means meant that the mustang couldn't be tremendously upgraded in the aftermarket with a $3,000 suspension. Ford is obviously trying to appeal to an older market with the redesign----it might work----but I just don't see it catching on with the current stang owners. I think time will show that the new design was a mistake. As for the new engines-----ford better improve upon them radically---because the current engines from the V6 right to to the blower ready V8 still has a great deal of quality issues to be addressed. I've gone through (2) 01 cobra engines------and bottom line-----that shouldn't happen to any customer.

I hate to say this since I love mustangs and ford but we have to look at the big picture here. Ford hasn't made an impressive car since the shelby era. They have just kept watering it down more and more. Just imagine what would have happened if the group of guys who formed svt never came to be. Would we see a 4 door 6 cylinder family sedan mustang. Ford has been riding on the mustang heritage for years. They were going to make the probe the new mustang. That disgusts me. On the other hand GM has always improved on their cars. 400 horsepower out of a NA motor with great handling. What was fords response. NOTHING. Not until they slapped a blower on a 4.6 did they get anywhere near the performance of the Corvette. They should follow the example set by corvette. It is an american icon and they dont let people down. They should have put a forged 5.4L in the Cobra. Then there are always the people that say that "Well I can always add this and that" but you have to have a solid foundation to start on. If the Camaro and TA had the long list of aftermarket parts like the mustang they would blow us out of the water. I am glad that Ford is finally growing peachfuzz on their tiny balls. I applaude that they are bringing back a classic design when cars were real, when they sent shivers down your spine. But knowing ford they will probably screw up the production cars to attract more grocery getters, arent they selling enough Focus and taures.

I kinda see what you are saying, but nothing since the shelby era is quite a stretch. Saleen, Roush, if someone has a problem w/ 375++ hp, be my guest to complain. Of course they can't match the corvette, but guess what... their price doesn't match the corvette either. Mustang, not a two seater anyway. I don't see how many could complain about the Mustangs. It doesn't really matter if they are riding the Mustang heritage for many years, the fact is, people like them, people buy them (lots of em) and they perform well. I do agree that the new concepts are looking pretty good, just hope they keep the performance high and the prices low.

Your right they do not compare in the prices since the saleen is more expensive.

I guess I am so sour since its frustrating that every other car comany has been growing by leaps and bounds and its taken ford so long. The whole sportscar world has changed, its no longer about whos got the most cubes under their hood but who has the best variable valve timing control. What will happen when the new 400 hp Nissan Skyline hits american soil and blows everything out of the water. Now with the loss of the F-bodies we are left alone to fend off godzilla (japanese Companies).

By the way does anyone know the truth behind the whole carrol shelby working with ford rumor. I asked the ford guy at the show and he said that shelby is doing consulting for them.

"Ford hasn't made an impressive car since the shelby era."----that is very far fetched. I won't even bring up the Saleen or Roush--because they aren't 'direct' products from Ford. But the 2000 Cobra R & 03 snake---are big time monster performers. Let me tell you something bro----if the Shelby's didn't have the weight to power ratio that they do----they wouldn't have been looked at the same way. Ford may choose to slap a blower on their new 4.6---but it doesn't degrade the way its making horsepower. That engine is about $13K and has some pretty good forged internals---and is capable of making 500rwhp with the right 'tune'. Thats a pretty nice power plant. The 4.6L can make up to 500hp N/A. Make no mistake about that. DSSRACING.com builds aftermarket 4.6s with the highest quality parts imaginable. They are simply getting the power by building the engine with a maximum high lift cam and ported cylinder heads. Ford doesn't go that route now----because its expensive to put those engines togother in that fashion. And Fords financial troubles are well documented. The Eaton/4.6 combo isn't as expensive to build as is a N/A500hp engine. Chevy will soon go the supercharging route. BMW is heading the same direction---Merecedes AMG has done it. Manufactureres are finding that the turbo/blower combos---are cost eficient---as well as appealing to the public. Car manufacturers are pumping up the testosterone of males by telling them that their car is turboed or supercharged. It really has been marketing the right way. The 4.6 is clean and isn't as bad as its portrayed. The problem with Ford and this engine----is that the only one with practically are forged internals---is the current Eaton/4.6.

Shelby is working with the SVT team on the Gt40. According to the blueoval news articles----Ford is very serious about making the GT40 outperform the 03 Viper in every way. You would hope so----since it will cost about $35K more than the current Viper. He's the right guy to consult. It should be interesting to see what the Gt40 does on the road. Its aluminum body sure sounds like this thing is going to come in weighing pretty lean. And here we go again-----a supercharged 5.4L engine. Ford must love the blower :badass:

any mustang is very good-it is very cheap compared for how long it lasts and its performance.My dad has one and he NEVER had a problem wiht it and it has lie 75 k miles now.

MUstings are great cars for anyone who is looking fo a cheap car-DONT GET CIVICS:sun:

I like your opinion...I would not consider them cheap, but they do have the highest HP to $ ratio, so that would make them be considered cheap in comparison to other vehicles.

They are ok. My sister has a 1997 Mustang 3.8L V-6. Has 155,000miles nothing wrong with it. Only thing that get annoying is the fuel pump noise in the rear of the car. Overall its a great little car for a Ford.:D

maybe the V6 coupe is cheap---MSRPing at $18,500. But the v6 ragtop starts at $23K. The Gt coupe $24,5 & the GT ragtop---$28,5. Thats still a lot of money. May not be as much as a Bimmer. But last time I checked---thats a lot of cash in good ole USA. $12K for a neon (non-SRT)-----now thats cheap :flash:

well i was talking abouyt the normal stand and the gt

When this new mustang is finally mass produced do any of you think that it is a good idea to purchase a cobra on the first year of production. Supposedly it is due november 2004 and some dealers will be taking deposits, but it is the first year on a newly designed car, should I wait a couple of years to buy a cobra so they can work out any kinks.

Originally posted by D[X]P


MUstings are great cars for anyone who is looking fo a cheap car-DONT GET CIVICS:sun:
uncalled for?

how are mustang's cheap?

i'm sure the new cobra---will be better than the previous. The cobra is the way to go----since most of the parts it uses---aren't even standard on any GT.

thats what a new mustang should look like.

should I wait a couple of years to buy a cobra so they can work out any kinks.
I'd say yeah wait a year or two. Not so much for them to work the kinks out of the first year's cars, but to see if any big announcements come up afterwards. For example, Saleen may make a new Mustang that could catch your eye.

Originally posted by 75stroppe
Your right they do not compare in the prices since the saleen is more expensive.

Maybe the saleens are more$$ than corvettes. But at least it isn't an impractical two seater. And also, the price tag of a saleen would give you a bottom line corvette anyway. A Saleen would eat that up and spit it out.

a saleen might eat up a regular vette----but I'd put the house on the Z06. I have to admit----I think the Saleens---have the absolutely most sweet rear bumper on any car period. Thats including all manufacturers.

yea, the Z06 would win, jus more money than a saleen, which the other guy didn't believe me on. I do love the rear bumper too, very racey looking.

I think the concept is extremely better looking than the "new edge" current mustang, even think the 94-98 is better looking than the current model. Way too many lines and squared off edges. And can we say tall and stalky, sometimes think i am driving behind a truck it is so tall. And i don't think the mustang has or will be directed towards a certain demigraphic.

Question though, will it be out for 04 because i am thinking of getting it in 05 when i graduate and it will be a year old with less bugs. Family had a 94 and that was sadly out the door 4 years later because of all the problems. Also looking forward to a new interrior the current one is almost 10 years old and the stick looks awkward.

Can't wait, saving every penny for a candy apple red one. Should bring back some of those colors along with the look.

the mustang has a demographic. Anyone who is looking for a cool muscle car---is part of the demographic that the mustang appeals to. On other matters there are 3 stangs to choose from (well this year---4). You are going to get problems with any car from any manufacturer. The V6 is more for a an 18 year old. Its shit anyway. The Gt and Cobra are for the people looking for bang of the buck. And if someone is seriously looking to build a super sports car---the Cobra should be at the top of the list.

Originally posted by vortech
the mustang has a demographic. Anyone who is looking for a cool muscle car---is part of the demographic that the mustang appeals to. On other matters there are 3 stangs to choose from (well this year---4). You are going to get problems with any car from any manufacturer. The V6 is more for a an 18 year old. Its shit anyway. The Gt and Cobra are for the people looking for bang of the buck. And if someone is seriously looking to build a super sports car---the Cobra should be at the top of the list.

I agree with most of what you are saying. I just have one question... why is it that when it comes to American cars (mustang included), a V6 gets very little racing respect? It seems to work with all other imported cars? But it seems like nobody wants one without a supercharger or turbo.

Originally posted by pontiactrac


I agree with most of what you are saying. I just have one question... why is it that when it comes to American cars (mustang included), a V6 gets very little racing respect? It seems to work with all other imported cars? But it seems like nobody wants one without a supercharger or turbo.

cuz its cheaper and easier in many respects just ot get the v8. and american cars with 6's are usually heavy enough that it downs the power which isnt the best it could be.

-GTi-VR6_A3

I have no idea what you are talking about bro lol. There just isn't any American car manufacturer that makes a V6 engine that can make V8 power. More importantly, the American V6s are not made for big time supercharging. There is only so much power in a 6 cylinder. Granted BMW has squeezed out a lot of their inline 6---buts thats really the staple engine of their fleet. Same goes for Ford (and GM for that matter). The modular meatball engine is the V8. never will be the V6---because you have to invest a lot more money in parts to make a V6 produce big power. Ford (GM) doesn't market the V6 as their brute force---its the V8. This is the big factor in the no respect of the V6. You can build a pretty powerful V6--with aftermarket forged internals and highlift cams----but apply those same components to a V8----and you make way more power---as well as get better output with a blower on a V8 than you do a V6.

Originally posted by vortech
I have no idea what you are talking about bro lol. There just isn't any American car manufacturer that makes a V6 engine that can make V8 power. More importantly, the American V6s are not made for big time supercharging. There is only so much power in a 6 cylinder. Granted BMW has squeezed out a lot of their inline 6---buts thats really the staple engine of their fleet. Same goes for Ford (and GM for that matter). The modular meatball engine is the V8. never will be the V6---because you have to invest a lot more money in parts to make a V6 produce big power. Ford (GM) doesn't market the V6 as their brute force---its the V8. This is the big factor in the no respect of the V6. You can build a pretty powerful V6--with aftermarket forged internals and highlift cams----but apply those same components to a V8----and you make way more power---as well as get better output with a blower on a V8 than you do a V6.

Alright "BRO"... I didn't say there were many V6's that could out power V8's at all. I didn't say anything close to that. What i ask a general question of why a V6 gets very little racing focus in America. And if you want to say that any V8 can beat any V6, ur wrong dude. I have seen muscle cars at the times they used carbs. all the way till the early 90's that didn't make impressive power at all, infact it was almost pathetic for some 8 cylinders. Im not in anyway doubting that a V8 is powerful. Im just saying that there are MANY formidable V6's out there too and if you don't believe me, you should definatly check them out. Supras 300zx 3000gt can all have outputs of up to 1000 hp.

all the way till the early 90's that didn't make impressive power at all, infact it was almost pathetic for some 8 cylinders
lol come on man you're going to compare the crappy 70's and 80's V8's to engines of today? Yeah ok in 1988 my Firebird's 350 V8 came with 235 hp, 335 lbs of torque. Not very good, but guess what the 1988 V6 Firebird came with? Actually I don't really know but it was probably around 100 or 120 hp.

Supras 300zx 3000gt can all have outputs of up to 1000 hp.
We're talking about American 6 cylinders right so why did you even mention those? Ford, Dodge, and GM doesn't care about making a strong V6 or I6 because simply put their V8's are stronger. They can get more power out of the factory then a smaller engine with less cylinders. If people want a fast car, they pay the extra bucks for the beefier engine. I don't know how it goes but you should get the idea, "why have a salad when you can have steak?" why have a cigarette when you can have a cuban cigar?

Originally posted by DeViL

We're talking about American 6 cylinders right so why did you even mention those? Ford, Dodge, and GM doesn't care about making a strong V6 or I6 because simply put their V8's are stronger. They can get more power out of the factory then a smaller engine with less cylinders. If people want a fast car, they pay the extra bucks for the beefier engine. I don't know how it goes but you should get the idea, "why have a salad when you can have steak?" why have a cigarette when you can have a cuban cigar?

Alright, i mentioned the imports basically because they almost never use a V8. I know there is an infinity and a lexus that do, but why don't they use more V8's if they are the only respectable and capable engine? I do realize that there are stricter horsepower regulations, but you know it could be easy to pass by something like that if needed. My point is more of a question posed towards American manufacturers rather than individual drivers. I just have to wonder why we dont take advantage of a lighter engine some of the time, maybe even use variable valve timing for better output. I happen to be a person who appreciates getting somewhat decient gas milage which is a big factor for somepeople. And since technology is getting better, there are ways that you could get more output from an engine than we used to. Ur firebird example is what i mean. While American cars are making heavy V8s that get about the same milage of an SUV, some imports are getting the same speed with gas milage close to a geo metro. I just wish we would give better outputs on our V6's, mainly because it's more economical, and cheaper. A great example is a viper, a V10, can outrun many V12's, a corvette V8 can keep up with many V12's. It's all about increasing our the output, it can be done, so why don't we produce our V6's with V8 power?

sorry bro---I was reading my post before and when I was saying "I have no idea what you are talking about lol" ---- I was actually directing that at the GTI guy. Thats why I put his name on the subject. Sorry if you thought I was trying to light ya up ---I can see why you got annoyed----but I can see how you concluded that I was trying to be a dick towards ya. My bad. I do agree with Devil. Hey Devil---I do compliment people much----:bandit: but you do have very good diverse knowledge on all kinds of cars.

P.S. and please, no one run to post that "I should quit sucking his prick". I put myself out there with that remark---but I'm beating you guys to it. :silly2:

I'm overjoyed with the stang, except the interior, which I've heard is going to be toned down when it is released. The production car will also be a 2+2, the rear tail-lights are going to be different, and glass will be put in the side rear of the roof, to aid visibility on the coupe.

have fun reading all this :rolleyes:

I know there is an infinity and a lexus that do, but why don't they use more V8's if they are the only respectable and capable engine?
V8's are the most capable engine of producing torque. V10s and V12s can make even more torque, but making those engines are very costly to a company, they want to make money not lose it. So why does GM, Ford, and Dodge make V8s? V8's are better for towing, they are better for trucks. Torque in trucks is a lot more important then horsepower. Toyota knows this, thats why they make V8 trucks.

Ok so they are used in trucks, so why are they used in cars like the Mustang, Firebird, GTO, Corvette, etc? Again, torque. GM, Ford, and Dodge (well Dodge used to) know that Americans aren't just going to use for playing around on a track, they build those cars so you can also use them at a drag strip. Why don't companies like BMW, Honda, make fast cars with V8s? Drag racing is popular in America, drag racing is not popular at all in other countries. I'm probably wrong but isn't horsepower more important in track races? So what does a company like BMW do, they use a small 6 cylinder, that they can get a lot of horsepower out of. Now they got a car that has a really light engine (assuming its aluminum), the car itself isn't that heavy, bam they have a car thats really useful for a track. The car doesn't have shit for torque but so what you're not supposed to drag race it.

Ur firebird example is what i mean. While American cars are making heavy V8s that get about the same milage of an SUV, some imports are getting the same speed with gas milage close to a geo metro. I just wish we would give better outputs on our V6's, mainly because it's more economical, and cheaper
So basically what you're telling me is everytime you think of an American car you base it on the crap they made in the 80's, and most likely the 70's? That's what it seems like to me after you said "your firebird is an example". Kind of stereotypical don't you think?

Ok my Firebird doesn't get that great of gas mileage, so what I didn't buy it for that. When a Honda Civic pulls up next to me wanting to race, I'm not worried about my gas mileage, I'm just going to kick his ass. The V8's today aren't as bad as what mine is.
What do the 350 V8's of today make? I'll compare a 2003 Corvette manual and automatic, to a Chevy Tahoe.
From Chevy's website

2003 Tahoe
Estimated MPG City/Highway(1)
Vortec 4800 V8
– 2WD 14/18
– 4x4 14/18
Vortec 5300 V8
– 2WD 14/18
– 4x4 13/17
Alternative-Fuel Vortec 5300 V8
– 2WD 14/19
– 4x4 14/18
2003 Corvette
Manual transmission,
(Coupe)19 city, 28 hwy. (Convertible) 19 city, 28 hwy. (Z06) 19 city, 28 hwy.
Automatic transmission,
(Coupe)18 city, 25 hwy. (Convertible) 18 city, 25 hwy. (Z06)Doesn't come automatic.

Looks to me like they aren't making the same gas mileage as an SUV are they? I could go on about there is more to it besides the engine when it comes to gas, such as gears, but I think I've wrote enough. About them being heavy, that 350 is aluminum it may weigh less then my V6 in the S-10, which is cast iron. I wouldn't doubt the Mustang's V8 weighs less then mine. If you're really that conservative about gas, then don't buy a V8 car, thats what they make 140 hp 4-cylinders for.

The big three aren't the only ones that don't really care when it comes to gas mileage in their hot rods. Ferrari and Lamborghini are two good examples of gas hogs. Why aren't you complaining about their cars?

Good valid responses DeViL! I was going to quote parts of your post, but it would have been too long. :)

You also have to remember the marketing side of things as well. American car manufactuers are always going to be producing V8's as their staple power base due to marketing reasons. True, a six cylinder i.e. V6, I6, whatever, will not be able to produce the big torque numbers that a V8 can. But also, do you really think that a MAJORITY of the American public will ever be convinced that a six cylinder can be a performance sports car? I don't think so in the near future at least. And until environmental regulations force the American auto industry to consider more fuel conservative cars they have no need to produce powerful six cylinder engines. They have done a good job in creating the marketability of the V8 and thus, they will contiunue to produce them as their performance platform until forced to do otherwise.

Thats exactly right.

Originally posted by vortech
sorry bro---I was reading my post before and when I was saying "I have no idea what you are talking about lol" ---- I was actually directing that at the GTI guy. Thats why I put his name on the subject. Sorry if you thought I was trying to light ya up ---I can see why you got annoyed----but I can see how you concluded that I was trying to be a dick towards ya. My bad. I do agree with Devil. Hey Devil---I do compliment people much----:bandit: but you do have very good diverse knowledge on all kinds of cars.

P.S. and please, no one run to post that "I should quit sucking his prick". I put myself out there with that remark---but I'm beating you guys to it. :silly2:

U have know reason to apoligize dude. It was mostly me making a big deal about something open to opinion. You are the better guy for apoligizing even though you weren't even acting like a dick. My bad also.

:cry: brings a tear to my eye dude. people on this forum actually being human. and im not being sarcastic.

-GTi-VR6_A3

i think we have more humanity on this board than in evry day life----and that ain't no bull.

Here's to humanity :greenchai

Originally posted by vortech
i think we have more humanity on this board than in evry day life----and that ain't no bull.

Here's to humanity :greenchai

w3rd:smoka:

Originally posted by vortech
i think we have more humanity on this board than in evry day life----and that ain't no bull.

Here's to humanity :greenchai

I agree with that, people seem to give others more respect here than they would talking to each other face to face!

Oh, and I forgot to mention, the 2005 mustang coupe won't have the glass roof, it'll be stamped steel, I'd say the glass was just to give people an easier view of the interior.

when you said the new stang was going to be 2 + 2 ---were you implying that it was going to be all wheel drive??? Because if so, thats definetely not the case according to what Ford has spoken of publicly. :confused:

Originally posted by vortech
when you said the new stang was going to be 2 + 2 ---were you implying that it was going to be all wheel drive??? Because if so, thats definetely not the case according to what Ford has spoken of publicly. :confused:

No, I mean it will be a 4 seater, 2 in the front, + 2 in the back, the concept 2005 stangs are only 2 seaters.

Oh, and silly me I forgot this, I've also read that the roof on the production version will be slightly less radical, a little higher.

that mach 1 that u can buy now... will that be gone by the time the new mustang is here?

eh you can probably find a Mach I easily. You planning on buying one?

Originally posted by DeViL
eh you can probably find a Mach I easily. You planning on buying one?

Actually not anytime in the near future. But i saw a new mach1 in a few mag. articles. It's been shown red with black stripes on the hood. I think it is new for 2003 as like a special edition for the last year of the present mustang generation because i know they hadn't made one since the musclecar days. The description said body of a gt, with the motor of a cobra. So are you saying you can get one of these easily, does that mean they will continue making them while the new generation mustangs come out or is it just a 2003 only make?

I heard it might carry over to 04, but not sure if it will carry on to the new body style in 05.

how much hp does the new mach 1 have? 390 like the cobra?

Originally posted by D[X]P
how much hp does the new mach 1 have? 390 like the cobra?

^^^^ droooooool... sweet mustang dude, i forget how much hp. Oh and yea, i wonder if it will carry into the new bod style. that would be the shit.