Models you wish were made

1/12TH SIDECAR RACER AND THAT GOLF GTI CAR WAS TOO COOL!

the Golf and Jetta (2003) gti 2 door

Porsche 904 in 1/24 with good engineering and detail. The Monogram is an old slot car kit, and the Revell has poor engineering.

Porsche 550 in 1/24 or 1/12. The Jimmy Flintstone transkit is meh at best.

Also, I'd love to see Scale Production bring back the Cayman Interseries transkit...

2001 Audi RS4 / S4 (not likely is it...)
Mercedes-McLaren SLR Stirling Moss
Pagani Zonda R

I would like to see Lancia 037 Stradale
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/7789/bankoboevrulanciarally0.jpg
Lancia S4
http://img2.netcarshow.com/Lancia-Delta_S4_Gruppo_B_1985_1024x768_wallpaper_01.jpg
And RUF CTR "Yellowbird"
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/2251/rufctr2a.jpg

Wish Tamiya would make:
Porsche 917K
Toyota ts030 hybrid
Audi e-tron R18

I would like to see:
- 1:12 Nissan Skyline R34
- 1:12 (1:24) BMW E60/61
etc...

- Ferrari P4/5
- AC A98 Coupe - the AC version of the Shelby Cobra Daytona

I miss the 90s, when pretty much everything on four wheels came out in plastic.

Where is our 2006 Civic Type R? With the Mugen RR kit to follow soon after?

Where is the Toyota FJ Cruiser?

I wouldn't mind a modern Tahoe or whatever it they make the police SUVs out of.

The new New Beetle from VW would make great kit, especially with those retro wheels.

How cool would it be if there were scores of 18" and 19" injection molded wheels coming out, like there were as recently as 5 years ago? Rotiform, Fifteen52 wheels....

Why don't the manufacturers repop old kits anymore? I would love to get my hands on piles EG and EK Civics and the Tamiya Golf and the Revell BMW M Coupe.

Who cares if they make 3 versions of the McLaren (though, trust me, I was really excited about ONE version) or this or that who-cares-about-Ferrari-anymore kit. Where is the fun stuff? The stuff to get you excited about building something neat and interesting and being able to put your own personal stamp on it?

Oh, and an Aston Martin V12 Zagato would be great. The One-77 came out in resin, why did the infinitely more beautiful Zagato get neglected?

Let's get the fun back into the hobby. No wonder they don't sell kits when it's an expensive kit* besotted with expensive detail parts of unattainable cars.

*We car modelers have it easy. Have you SEEN the prices of aircraft kits? And their detail sets, of which they usually need more of per build? Those guys are getting raked over the coals!

Almost anything as long as it isn't another bl==dy BORING Porsche!!!!
I'm SICK of seeing 'new' kits of the grotty 911 and all it's variants!!!!!!!
They're all the flippin' SAME!!!!
The most tedious, boring, uninteresting, drab pile of metal ever created!!!!!
Now I will get shot down in flames.
Oh, B.T.W.... I owned a Carrera for around 8 months, long, long ago.
A total pile of CR4P!
Drab, uninteresting, uninvolving, and actually, pretty SLOW!
Embarrassing when I was blown away by a Lotus Esprit!

My choice????
A good BIG kit of the Jaguar C or D Type.....
Roy.

Cars/trucks from 1980-2013

Why don't the manufacturers repop old kits anymore? I would love to get my hands on piles EG and EK Civics and the Tamiya Golf and the Revell BMW M Coupe.

The Fujimi EK is listed as available in Hobby Search at this moment. All three versions of the Hasegawa EG were reissued within this year, I just bought 2 hatchbacks last month.

All 4 Japanese manufacturers are busy repopping their more popular car kits in the last year or so. Even Tamiya did a run of their 80's and 90's classics, some of them we haven't seen in over 10 years.

Who cares if they make 3 versions of the McLaren (though, trust me, I was really excited about ONE version) or this or that who-cares-about-Ferrari-anymore kit. Where is the fun stuff? The stuff to get you excited about building something neat and interesting and being able to put your own personal stamp on it?
...
Let's get the fun back into the hobby. No wonder they don't sell kits when it's an expensive kit* besotted with expensive detail parts of unattainable cars.

I can't quite agree with that statement. In fact I think the car model scene is quite healthy now. We have the 86/BRZ from both Tamiya and Aoshima, and there is no short supply of fun cars like the AE86, RX-7, Silvia and 180SX, or the Mustang and Camaro. Aoshima in particular has stepped up big time, not only with the reissues but also cranking out a lot of brand new toolings that are among the best in the industry. And with the yen being devalued, the Japanese kits have become quite affordable now.

Wish they make new f-250,f-350 off road series on 1:24 would be cool.

Almost anything as long as it isn't another bl==dy BORING Porsche!!!!
I'm SICK of seeing 'new' kits of the grotty 911 and all it's variants!!!!!!!
They're all the flippin' SAME!!!!
The most tedious, boring, uninteresting, drab pile of metal ever created!!!!!
Now I will get shot down in flames.
Oh, B.T.W.... I owned a Carrera for around 8 months, long, long ago.
A total pile of CR4P!
Drab, uninteresting, uninvolving, and actually, pretty SLOW!
Embarrassing when I was blown away by a Lotus Esprit!

My choice????
A good BIG kit of the Jaguar C or D Type.....
Roy.

Well, I hear you about the 911 being done to death in plastic, though I personally like the cars. The Jaguar XKSS done by Revell Germany can be built into a short nose D without much effort and looks good. Aoshima did an XK-120 that is also well done but that model is difficult to find and would require serious surgery to convert into a C-Type. The Jaguar I can't believe no modern tooling exists for is the E-Type! It's one of the most iconic symbols of automotive art in the world and yet there isn't a decent kit. Yes, Gunze has a nice high-tech convertible but its a bear to build and Heller's coupe is also nice but impossible to find. If I were a kit company the Series 1 E-Type roadster and coupe would be high on the development list!

Almost anything as long as it isn't another bl==dy BORING Porsche!!!!
I'm SICK of seeing 'new' kits of the grotty 911 and all it's variants!!!!!!!
They're all the flippin' SAME!!!!
The most tedious, boring, uninteresting, drab pile of metal ever created!!!!!
Now I will get shot down in flames.
Oh, B.T.W.... I owned a Carrera for around 8 months, long, long ago.
A total pile of CR4P!
Drab, uninteresting, uninvolving, and actually, pretty SLOW!
Embarrassing when I was blown away by a Lotus Esprit!

My choice????
A good BIG kit of the Jaguar C or D Type.....
Roy.


LOL Roy.
Had a 996 c2 and she was able to reach 303 kmts/h in highway.Mine was not so slow, even if also I think was not the nicest P they ever did (prefer a lot the previous, slower and uncomfortable 993..).she just look like a bigger and better done golf 2 me.

Missing model:
Plastic welldone GT40, a 330 P3, a 312p 1968, alfa 156 superturismo, leon cupra R, seat wtcc, a 2013 997 rsr,pikes peak recent cars, le mans LMP cars (all), 911 rsr 1976...

The new Porsche 918 would be nice if tamiya would make it! Any rear engined and air cooled Volkswagen other than the bug and bus would be nice too!

After going thru this list again, I see that as modelers, we are a pretty diverse bunch. From choice of subject matter, to choice of manufacturers. Now...

Just a thought... What if ... You took the top ten scratch builders from AF, gave them all the toys they need like scanners, cnc 5 axis machines, cnc lathes and mills, etc., and you ask them to manufacture a kit, what would it be? A race car? Street? I'm pretty sure it would be multimedia. How detailed would it be oob? What scale? maybe this should be a new thread?

Of course I'd like to be present when they deliberate on which car it would be!

918?..there is a STUNNING welly die cast model around.

918?..there is a STUNNING welly die cast model around.

Yep. A 918. With the martini livery. Styrene kit by tamiya or fujimi. Then let the aftermarket companies have a go at the detail set!

The new Porsche 918 would be nice if tamiya would make it! Any rear engined and air cooled Volkswagen other than the bug and bus would be nice too!

After going thru this list again, I see that as modelers, we are a pretty diverse bunch. From choice of subject matter, to choice of manufacturers. Now...

Just a thought... What if ... You took the top ten scratch builders from AF, gave them all the toys they need like scanners, cnc 5 axis machines, cnc lathes and mills, etc., and you ask them to manufacture a kit, what would it be? A race car? Street? I'm pretty sure it would be multimedia. How detailed would it be oob? What scale? maybe this should be a new thread?

Of course I'd like to be present when they deliberate on which car it would be!

Interesting thought Verdana,
The way 3D printing is growing I don't think it is far fetched to envision a day when casual modelers design their own parts/kits and upload them to a 3D workshop for free public download (like iTunes, android apps, Steam Workshop, etc.) As more content accumulated on the site a review system would help people figure out which designs are the best. After deciding, that file would be emailed to Kinko's for a $9.99 printout on their latest $40,000 Stratisys printer and mailed to you in a box. Yes, it's a few years away but the technology and business model(s) already thrive. I can't believe no one has done it yet!

Interesting thought Verdana,
The way 3D printing is growing I don't think it is far fetched to envision a day when casual modelers design their own parts/kits and upload them to a 3D workshop for free public download (like iTunes, android apps, Steam Workshop, etc.) As more content accumulated on the site a review system would help people figure out which designs are the best. After deciding, that file would be emailed to Kinko's for a $9.99 printout on their latest $40,000 Stratisys printer and mailed to you in a box. Yes, it's a few years away but the technology and business model(s) already thrive. I can't believe no one has done it yet!

Well, for a start the printing alone for a full 1/24 scale kit would cost about 200 USD right now, and that for the cheapest SLA printing with least detail.
If you go for high detail printing then you are looking at 300 USD. Which is about as much as a MFH kit and you get no decals and PE parts. And what about the clear parts?

High detail 3D printing price needs to drop by at least 70% to make this business model viable.

And then let's talk about creating the 3d models for the printing. How many people around here have the knowledge to make accurate CAD or 3DS models?

If you search the board you'll find that I made the first set of 3D printed wheels available around here more than 3 years ago. More then 3 years later and the process still didn't become mainstream. And I believe it will take at least 5 more years before it starts becoming popular, and 5 more before most model kit builders will adopt it.

It was just a "what if" thing for me. My idea entails that the majority of the kit parts are still made of styrene to keep the cost reasonable. Since I'm only dreaming, I guess price would be no object anyway. I just can't imagine what would happen if the top 10 builders here in AF got together to design a kit. I'm just curious what the model will be like no?

Let's just imagine for a while that they are given access to the machines and personnel of either tamiya or fujimi, and told that they can have a clean sheet or they can just take 1 kit and improve on it all they want, what would the car kit be like? Remember, in the dream world, price is no object!

Well, for a start the printing alone for a full 1/24 scale kit would cost about 200 USD right now, and that for the cheapest SLA printing with least detail.
If you go for high detail printing then you are looking at 300 USD. Which is about as much as a MFH kit and you get no decals and PE parts. And what about the clear parts?

High detail 3D printing price needs to drop by at least 70% to make this business model viable.

And then let's talk about creating the 3d models for the printing. How many people around here have the knowledge to make accurate CAD or 3DS models?

If you search the board you'll find that I made the first set of 3D printed wheels available around here more than 3 years ago. More then 3 years later and the process still didn't become mainstream. And I believe it will take at least 5 more years before it starts becoming popular, and 5 more before most model kit builders will adopt it.

You're right. This technology hasn't exactly taken off with model builders and the CAD learning curve is a big reason. But the cost of printing is coming down and CAD software will become more accessible with time. Since my first post I found a website called Shapeways that comes close to what I described: http://www.shapeways.com/makerdiy/mechanical-parts?li=nav

The first applications will be mods of existing kits to keep the cost down but who knows after that. TDR Innovations has some interesting modified parts kits for purchase. There is a Jaguar D longnose body for $50 that could work with the Revell XKSS kit. He also has a Barchetta body, carbs, blowers, in several scales.

There are LOADS of websites where you can obtain incredibly detailed '3D' models of almost any car on the planet. These files can be read by just about any 3D printer, in any scale you choose.
If several people chipped in to pay for the files, it wouldn't work out too expensive, if you know someone with a 3D printer.
Have a peep at this one:

http://www.the3dstudio.com/product_details.aspx?id_product=682066

The only trouble is, you would get a 'solid' kerbside model.
That's ok if you want kerbside, and don't mind blacked out windows......

Roy.

There are LOADS of websites where you can obtain incredibly detailed '3D' models of almost any car on the planet. These files can be read by just about any 3D printer, in any scale you choose.
If several people chipped in to pay for the files, it wouldn't work out too expensive, if you know someone with a 3D printer.
Have a peep at this one:

http://www.the3dstudio.com/product_details.aspx?id_product=682066

The only trouble is, you would get a 'solid' kerbside model.
That's ok if you want kerbside, and don't mind blacked out windows......

Roy.

Didn't know that! But are there 3d models of turbos, cylinder heads and covers, gearboxes, etc? I wouldn't mind getting solid pieces of these! A modeler could just print a 3d version of an accurate part that he needs bor his build no?

Because as a builder who has limited scratch building skills, it is very convenient to have parts that are already accurate. Looking at the great builds here in AF, I can see that the majority of build time is in accurizing parts! My 2 cents.

Though 3D printing works well for some applications, there are many shortfalls yet in it's use for precise scale model reproduction

I use a couple of services, and shapeways is so far the most used, mostly due to ease and cost

The two most immediate issues are the aforementioned print quality (i.e. smoothness) and cost, but there is a third

I can tell you first hand, that using even the finest resolution material & printer they have available, there is definitely a fine grain
I order only using the "ultra-fine" material, and even then still it requires me to do some degree of sanding and priming to finish the part smooth enough in appearance

Second is cost, for example, one set of printed wheels (1/24 scale example) in the finest resolution, and after duty+taxes upon delivery, the cost is at least $50
That's for just a set of wheels, so you can imagine that printing a complete model car, given the amount of material mass, the cost would be significantly more than even just $300, closer to $500 in actuality, and even still there would be the mentioned finishing work yet to do

Last is the digital design stage, and the amount of work involved in that is not small nor quick as many might think it is
For some more experienced like Johan that I've been working with, he can generate a design that is far superior to my own efforts & in a shorter time frame too, but even still he likely has several hours in a single wheel design before it's ready to print!

To digitally design an entire model would be hundreds of hours, and even then the other shortfall is the necessary trial printing - trial & error - to get components just right, to work proper and most importantly to "look" correct
That trial & error means wasted prints in experimentation, and that costs $$


I have only just begun to try some digital design work myself, and though some basic components, it really does take a few hours for even just the simplest designs

Here's in one I've been working on, a tire tread pattern, to make a correct scale master molding tire
I have probably 25+ hours in this now, and I won't truly know if it works properly until it returns from the printers?

:)

You're right. This technology hasn't exactly taken off with model builders and the CAD learning curve is a big reason. But the cost of printing is coming down and CAD software will become more accessible with time. Since my first post I found a website called Shapeways that comes close to what I described: http://www.shapeways.com/makerdiy/mechanical-parts?li=nav

The first applications will be mods of existing kits to keep the cost down but who knows after that. TDR Innovations has some interesting modified parts kits for purchase. There is a Jaguar D longnose body for $50 that could work with the Revell XKSS kit. He also has a Barchetta body, carbs, blowers, in several scales.

Shapeways were the first 3Dprinting service that I ever used about 4 years ago, since they have improved in terms of printing quality, however their customer service quality has decreased while their customer base was growing.
Then I used Print a Part, a branch of Fine Line Prototyping, who then were closed and then I used Fine Line Prototyping (a tad more expensive) both with excellent print quality and great customer service.

I am now thinking about giving Shapeway another chance we'll see how it goes.
The list of projects that I have in progress is rather large and now I need to focus on finishing a couple of these (mainly wheels, tires and an engine kit).

shapeways service is cool but their quality is still not acceptable for modelling purpouses (meant at our detail level).
the surface is always too crispy, on curved lines is a mess to keep it flat. Think is good only for squared details. surely it is just the beginning of a new mould era, but we are still very far away from any old plastic done with steel moulds.

I think two kits that would absolutely sell if Tamiya would make them would be the Maserati MC12(sister to the enzo) and the Saleen s7. I would make those any day over the Mclaren G1.

I've already said this before, but the BIGGEST sellers would surely be the iconic classics:
Jaguar C and D type, Aston DBR 1,2 & 3, and some of the early Ferrari and Alfa racing/sports cars.

RAoy.

i would like for a 1969 amc javilen amx to be reissued in one sixteenth scale. it may have been a johan or an aurora build not sure but it was a decent model for those days.

A Toyota TS030 in plastic 1/24th please!

- Ferrari P4/5
- AC A98 Coupe - the AC version of the Shelby Cobra Daytona

Well, looks like both may have come true....ScaleProduction for the Ferrari, and MFH for the AC!

how about a 4 door Jeep JK Wrangler? 1st 4 door in a long jeep history, crazy that none of the american brands have made it!!

well, at least someone iss making in Bulgaria, models 1:1 scale replica of something we all race lovers will adore, and also at a very very good price (consider the gmp 330 p4 in 1:8 scale cost in europe nearly 5000 euros.)
http://www.ebay.it/itm/GMP-Models-FERRARI-P4-6-RED-1-8-GMP-R0804101-Auto-1-8-/370683443691?pt=Modellismo_Statico&hash=item564e7479eb

for some little more money (12.000 euros) u can get this one... working with a golf gti engine.

http://www.aero-master.com/userfiles/aeromaster%20lmp(2).jpg

http://www.aero-master.com/en/pages/about-us.php

I wish they made this:

http://www.carwallpapers.ru/wp/toyota/yaris/2009/Toyota-Yaris-2009.jpg

You always want a model of the car you own :wink:

I wish they made this:

http://www.carwallpapers.ru/wp/toyota/yaris/2009/Toyota-Yaris-2009.jpg

You always want a model of the car you own :wink:

there are 1/18 models of this version of the yaris, i believe they're die-cast.

the older yaris/vitz had 1/24 plastic models though.

I've already said this before, but the BIGGEST sellers would surely be the iconic classics:
Jaguar C and D type, Aston DBR 1,2 & 3, and some of the early Ferrari and Alfa racing/sports cars.
RAoy.


Classics will certainly always have sales, though not necessarily biggest, those tend to be what ever the "newest" cool releases are (FT86, bunny transkits, etc.), but certainly the classics will steady sales over a longer time line IMO

my own interest include some of those, but to provide in full detail form, the d-type short nose first, and a Ferrari after that one

95 Toyota Sera with working gullwing doors

JZX100 & JZX90 Toyota Chaser and Toyota Mark II with engine details.

Group B rallycars,
Group B rallycars,
Group B rallycars,
Group B rallycars,
Group B rallycars,
Group B rallycars,
Group B rallycars,

Scale 1/24, injected plastic, of course :) A real shame only the Lancia 037 and the Peugeot 205 T16 were reproduced over 30 years...

Came up with one....the excellent Norman Timbs custom. Automodello's releasing a 1:43 car this year, but I'd love a 1:24 kit. This would be a perfect car for 3D printing!

http://www.klassiekerrally.nl/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Norman-timbs-streamliner-buick-special19.jpg

1/12 Superbike kits in general
Something else than Yamahas in the MotoGP line.
A new street Yamaha or Honda in the 1000 cc range, the 98 R1 is quite out of date...

Jaguar F-type R Coupe

It might be that the future will change ...

With Honda releasing 3D files of their prototypes and 3D printing getting more accurate, it might open new possibilities.