Recap of 'Rest of the World' F1 Fleet

I've been told that #18 was sold for 3,92 million Singapore dollars, possibly bought by an English man.

That is almost
1,87 million Euro
2,74 million USD
or
1,40 million GBP

:)

£1.4million for #018 isn't too bad! seeing as #013 whislt for sale in Exeter was for £1.3million

If #013 was really offered for GBP 1,3 million, then the 1,4 million for #018 are really a bargain!

:)

Too bad that it sold, I was saving for it :(

Is it possible that there was an F1 in Iraq under the Hussein reign?

There have been shots of his (or his relatives) Ferrari 550 and an LM002 that have surfaced since the end of the war - both 'modified' by either the Allied Forces or Iraq's own people - and that is where this rumour started.

Possible? sure, why not, he had enough funds to purchase (more than) one that he skimmed off his country; likely? No

Some nice shots of #65 in between two Brunei specials:
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=10&pID=732129&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=10&pID=732130&first=true
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?viewPic=y&source=gal&uID=129612&gID=976&pgID=10&pID=732131&first=true


http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=2&fID=0&tID=104217&bottom=480#post495

I've been told that #18 was sold for 3,92 million Singapore dollars, possibly bought by an English man.

I hope he will not refit it.

#18 is now in Auckland, New Zealand.


Here is a picture of it on dealer plates (I believe the dealer plates belong to Jerry Clayton BMW)


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2264/image128un0.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6898/image129gq6.jpg

Great find! :thumbsup:

An NZ F1 :) thats pretty cool

thanks for the info!

#18 is now in Auckland, New Zealand.


Here is a picture of it on dealer plates (I believe the dealer plates belong to Jerry Clayton BMW)


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2264/image128un0.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6898/image129gq6.jpg

Here's a local Singapore newspaper article on the sale of this F1. most expensive car every sold in F1 followed by Zonda F last year and XJ220 in 1993.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/1/19/nation/20063081&sec=nation

Here's a local Singapore newspaper article on the sale of this F1. most expensive car every sold in F1 followed by Zonda F last year and XJ220 in 1993.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/1/19/nation/20063081&sec=nation

at least my I got the price right :)

Well - compared to #064 which is still for sale at SPS for 1.88 million Euro, #018 was sold for a bargain...
http://www.classicdriver.de/de/find/4100_results.asp?bsubmit=true&lmanufacturer=10084&lCarID=1750654

We believe that is #063, not #064.

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Then SPS have at least two F1. (#063 and #064)
Didn't they also bought the white F1 from ZAZ?

Yes, they did have #064 at one point as well. The primary distinction between what are otherwise fairly identical cars is that #064 has a red "F1 V12" emblem on the center of the steering wheel. In this set of pics, that unique detail is missing.

They also have/had #053, formerly part of the ZAZ Museum collection, for some time as well.

Unfortunately their website has not been updated recently so it is hard to know which F1s they might still have.

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Yes, they did have #064 at one point as well. The primary distinction between what are otherwise fairly identical cars is that #064 has a red "F1 V12" emblem on the center of the steering wheel. In this set of pics, that unique detail is missing.

They also have/had #053, formerly part of the ZAZ Museum collection, for some time as well.

Unfortunately their website has not been updated recently so it is hard to know which F1s they might still have.

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Was the white F1 in the recent set of pics from the ZAZ/ZENT GT?

No it sure wasn't - I believe it left the ZAZ Museums collection in early 2006.

In July, McLaren displayed the car at the Salon Prive show in the UK. The first images I have of it in Hong Kong date back to December 2006 on my computer.

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#053?

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2433/hongkong6gc.jpg

#053?


Indeed it is, but the photo was taken many moons ago as it dates back to Feb 2007 on my HD. I'm sure it was posted here somewhere back then. Thanks for looking out though. :)

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#053 posted over on SC.net. Poster states it's on its way back, by plane, to its Arab owner (?) after a full factory refit......

http://img209.imagevenue.com/loc154/th_02740_untitled1_122_154lo.JPG (http://img209.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=02740_untitled1_122_154lo.JPG) http://img25.imagevenue.com/loc684/th_02743_untitled12_122_684lo.JPG (http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=02743_untitled12_122_684lo.JPG)

Could just as easily be 'None of the above' after a full factory refit.

I'd say its most likely #053 since we know that one has been floating around a while and there's no antenna mounted on the upper engine cover.

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Arab owner though? any ideas.....

#18 is now in Auckland, New Zealand.


Here is a picture of it on dealer plates (I believe the dealer plates belong to Jerry Clayton BMW)

Yeh Jerry Clayton BMW owns it, its LM spec, engine and aero.

It now has the plates "MCL F1" on it, which i believe was on the silver McLaren that Whittikers owned, so im not sure what plate is on his McLaren F1 at the moment (standard road car in Silver, hoping to see it again sometime to get the chassis number)

cheers for the update :thumbsup:

3 F1's in South Africa??? (http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/2042331-post19.html) If so, one I guess has to be #037; the rest?...

Does anyone have an idea which Hong Kong located F1 was featured in this months Car Plus Magazine?
As the car has black seat inserts it can't be #063 or #064 - right?

Taken at a Ferrari dealer in Montreal:
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=2&fID=0&tID=132606&bottom=1350#post1372

That is supposed to be the road car owned by Lawrence Stroll which has not been seen publicly for several years. Perhaps it's almost reached the 15-year mark where it can be road registered in Canada with no penalties. A car built in 1994 would be elligible next year.

A friend is trying once again to score the chassis number for us as it remains an 'unknown'. Keep those fingers crossed! :)

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That is supposed to be the road car owned by Lawrence Stroll which has not been seen publicly for several years. Perhaps it's almost reached the 15-year mark where it can be road registered in Canada with no penalties. A car built in 1994 would be elligible next year.

A friend is trying once again to score the chassis number for us as it remains an 'unknown'. Keep those fingers crossed! :)

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According to a friend the blue bonnet with #6 hanging up belongs to the Penske 512M that Stroll owns. No further to the chassis but extra hints towards ownership...

There's no doubt from my source that this is the F1 road car that Stroll owns. The problem is that everyone at the dealership is being tight lipped over the car's mere existence and the chassis number as well.

My probable guesses are #002, #005 or #008 as those were all Brunei road cars and Stroll did a deal with the Brunei Investment Agency to purchase Asprey many years back, around the time that the car was first spotted at Mont Tremblant. Possibly there were a handful of cars he arranged to purchase at the same time?

The other chassis number that seems a likely candidate would be what I believe was #012, the Tag Heuer F1 seen in Japan in the early years. The paint on this car looks slightly different than the dark silver that we see on #045, and past photos of #012, so perhaps its not the Japan car. This car has more of a silvery tone to the paint, though darker than the usual silvers found on F1s.

If the Stroll F1 ends up being any other chassis number than those four though, I'll be quite surprised.

Laws in Canada allow for the free importation of any car once it has reached the 15-year mark in age, so any of the 1994 F1s would be elligible in just a couple of months. Perhaps it's been pulled out and dusted off in order to start the formal importation and registration process. The rumor is that the car has been tucked away in an garage at Stroll's home for several years now.

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Spotted in Hong Kong

http://img222.imagevenue.com/loc103/th_05805_Hong_Kong_F1_122_103lo.jpg (http://img222.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=05805_Hong_Kong_F1_122_103lo.jpg)

Spotted in Hong Kong

Thanks for sharing, but last I checked Hong Kong was not in Japan, so I relocated your post sir. ;)

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Taken at a Ferrari dealer in Montreal:
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=2&fID=0&tID=132606&bottom=1350#post1372

I saw that car too! Actually, it was my first time that i saw the McLaren F1. It was a special day for me :). The McLaren F1 was, is and will always be favorite car of all time.

I have another friend that saw the car but the people working at the Ferrari dealer didnt let him take pictures of the Mclaren.

Thanks for sharing, but last I checked Hong Kong was not in Japan, so I relocated your post sir. ;)

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:disappoin
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I saw that car too! Actually, it was my first time that i saw the McLaren F1. It was a special day for me :). The McLaren F1 was, is and will always be favorite car of all time.

I have another friend that saw the car but the people working at the Ferrari dealer didnt let him take pictures of the Mclaren.

Cool :)

I'm really curious about the chassis number. Can't someone near that place just ask someone about it? just the number seems harmless to most people, right?

They're trying to keep it on the DL according to a local source and no details are available. In fact, for many years the people at the dealership had denied that the car even existed in Stroll's collection.

Like nearly everything else that has been a past mystery related to the F1, the details on this car including its chassis number will come out eventually. Until then I'll stick with my current theories - #002, #005, #008 or #012.

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http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/707/mclf100amh5jx9.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mclf100amh5jx9.jpg)

Apparently taken in the Hard Rock Casino in Macau between the end of May and now


http://img238.imagevenue.com/loc56/th_62326_Macau_may_june_2009_122_56lo.JPG (http://img238.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62326_Macau_may_june_2009_122_56lo.J PG) http://img252.imagevenue.com/loc352/th_62329_Macau_may_june_2009-1_122_352lo.JPG (http://img252.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62329_Macau_may_june_2009-1_122_352lo.JPG) http://img216.imagevenue.com/loc459/th_62336_Macau_may_june_2009-2_122_459lo.JPG (http://img216.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62336_Macau_may_june_2009-2_122_459lo.JPG)

Hmmmm

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p81/alanwpics/bt000190_768800.jpg

#018 at taupo....? anyone on here took that photo?

Hmmmm, indeed.

I found a pair of smaller photos of the car here, along with the story:

http://www.etravelblackboardasia.com/article.asp?id=62165&nav=1

I'm definitely intrigued. The lighting isn't the best in any of these shots and so it's hard to put my finger on the exact color. In the second photo on that page I shared it's almost a match for the Aubergine #016, however the interior would be way off. In the other shots Greg shared it doesn't even look close to the color of #016. There aren't a lot of cars left that we don't know about that are possible choices which leads me to believe we could be looking at one we do know, post-refit.

Just brainstorming here, but maybe this is the F1 we've long suspected as being #043, painted Black Metallic that was formerly in Japan. In previous photos of the car the lower section of the body was painted grey like the LeMans winner, but perhaps a new owner had that changed? This could be the silver car (#064 I think) that was at SPS in Hong Kong? They also had the white F1 out of the ZAZ collection, chassis #053. I'd be fairly upset if this turned out to be that car, but each owner is of course free to do what they wish with their F1. Macau is just a short boat ride from Hong Kong anyway.

I'll keep digging on this. I like it when we discover something new - great work Greg!

Just found the best news of all here (http://www.asiatraveltips.com/news09/295-CityofDreams.shtml):

"The cars will be displayed from 1 June on Level 1 of the mass gaming floor for 6 months." :naughty:

I also watched a video that mentions the new property is expected to draw 50-60 thousand visitors per day, so these are unlikely to be the last photos we get of the car.

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"The cars will be displayed from 1 June on Level 1 of the mass gaming floor for 6 months." :naughty:

another one sitting for 6 months... ready to catch fire like the last one did :sarcasmsign:

Another "Duh!" moment for me this evening when I said:

"They also had the white F1 out of the ZAZ collection, chassis #053. I'd be fairly upset if this turned out to be that car, but each owner is of course free to do what they wish with their F1."

We saw #053 on a shipping palette inside an airplane headed for the Middle East last year. Forgot about that for a moment. In fact the pics and details might even be in this very thread. :loser:

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Old age does a cruel thing to the mind ;) [I should know :)]

#029 Was sold recently, where did that land up?

The colour base in the pics is odd, due to the lighting, so it could be any one of sixty four :cwm27:

I am not sure on where #029 landed yet. Given its funky original color it surely may have been a candidate for a respray for its new owner and is certainly a possiblity for this car. I've rounded up names of a few potential owners and asked someone on FChat who has been posting pics of exotics in Macau to pay the F1 and Enzo a visit, and try to get the chassis number. No reply as of yet on that request.

On a totally unrelated note, there is now another silver F1 in South Africa besides #037. More details on exactly which car should be made public soon, I believe. :smile:

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There are some seriously wicked cars here!

...and asked someone on FChat who has been posting pics of exotics in Macau to pay the F1 and Enzo a visit, and try to get the chassis number. No reply as of yet on that request.

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Is there a chance to get the s/n of that silver Enzo as well?

I didn't ask for that, but given the placement of the chassis plate on an Enzo, if the door is open it would be quite a bit easier to get than an F1 if you can not get close to the car. When/if he replies I'll add that to the request.

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Try this pic, for more clues of the chassis # identity!!

What a setting :runaround: ............cars are for driving.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2390/3618388695a043593a84or.th.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/3618388695a043593a84or.jpg/)

Pic credits, to the email address across pic.

Someone care to email this photographer, for more pics!! :smile:

This pic help?

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8557/02915.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/02915.jpg/)

They're only about 18 months late in reporting on that. :uhoh: :lol2:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=886119

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Part of me likes your theory a lot Le Man, the other part is still a little wishy-washy for now. Here's another shot - perhaps the best example of the paint color we've seen so far.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20H/03_232605.jpg

Given the placement on the stand and the glass barriers, it is going to be quite tough for anyone to get their eyes on the chassis plate. :(

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http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20118

http://www.pistonheads.com/pics/news/20118/tn_Davidoff%20McLaren-L.jpg
"Chassis 028R in action at Donington"

That's 020R, right?
Anyone have the pic w/o the logo?:smile:

That's 020R, right?

Anyone have the pic w/o the logo?:smile:

According to all the data I have, yes that should be #20R in that shot driven by Raphanel & Gounon. In the same race, #28R was driven by Lees & Olofsson and wore race number 3.

Nope to the second question - sorry.

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http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc191/th_01454_020R_1_122_191lo.jpg (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=01454_020R_1_122_191lo.jpg)

HTH ;)