WTF have I done...

Blown HG FTL.

You dang right. Just had to replace the one on my civic. :rolleyes:

A1 head studs are out of stock at SBR, have to keep looking... But the 200 dollar Felpro Performance HG is in, this thing looks pretty badass. Can't wait to see how it holds up under some real boost.

A1 head studs are out of stock at SBR, have to keep looking... But the 200 dollar Felpro Performance HG is in, this thing looks pretty badass. Can't wait to see how it holds up under some real boost.

Im starting to trust felpro gasket alot now. Its has serve me well from n/t car to turbo now v8. Very good gasket :thumbsup:

I'm still not sure I would try a regular Felpro gasket, I'm an OEM gasket fanboy still. But this is no ordinary gasket. A couple of the epensive ricer brand gaskets are reported to be pretty good at high boost too, but I've never tried those either.

All I use is Fel-pro, with good results too.

Time for an update I guess.

Head was O-ringed, I completely forgot about that, because I'm dumb. At .011 protrusion, there was no way to use that with a metal gasket. Say goodbye to the O-rings, head is cut flat again. Installed it with the 200 dollar Felpro 5 layer gasket, and A1 headstuds.

While the head was off, it got ST Dual springs and FP2X cams. It's already very well ported, good valve job, and new guides, so no work to the head itself. The Crower springs and BC 280s that were removed are in the head for the Mighty Max.

Cleaned up some wiring while I was in there and fixed some other small annoyances. All that's left is to fid someone to mount the new 29x13.5x15 slicks to the rims, screw the tires down, and put this POS back on the dyno... In ~2 weeks perhaps. I'm hoping to get some video this time...

That's a shame... It would have been a great motor to have o-ringed. :(

O-rings are a bandaid that I no longer believe in. ;) Rememer that the reason I had the head off is that it was pushing coolant, so it apparently didn't work. :D

O-rings are a bandaid that I no longer believe in. ;) Rememer that the reason I had the head off is that it was pushing coolant, so it apparently didn't work. :D
Oh... I think I forgot about that reason. lol...

Maybe something just wasn't setting right before?

The head had almost no warpage, so it really just comes down to the orings, the gasket, and the studs. People have been doing very well with the 200 dollar felpro and A1 studs (some with ARPs having good success too) at more boost than I intend to run on this "little" turbo, so I'm inclined to try it myself.

Needs more pics.. :P

The head had almost no warpage, so it really just comes down to the orings, the gasket, and the studs. People have been doing very well with the 200 dollar felpro and A1 studs (some with ARPs having good success too) at more boost than I intend to run on this "little" turbo, so I'm inclined to try it myself.
Ah, ok... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this thing runs for ya. :wink:

+1 for copper head gaskets.

I'm not a fan of copper HGs. At high boost no one seems to be doing well with them.

In an effort to not machine material off the head frivolously (tons of port work in it), we machined the orings flat. There is a good chance this won't work. ;) If it doesn't, the head gets machined down another 10 thousandths or so to get rid of the oring grooves. WTF. If it works, I'm goin with it.

I put up a couple new pics at the bottom of this page. (http://www.posracing.net/RWDmorepics.html) From today.

Kevin, I've decided that we should trade cars. lol ;)


Damn that thing looks sexy!

I love the smoothed out engine bay....so skeet skeet

LMAO, thanks guys. It does look a lot neater without the direct port nitrous too. I got tired of having to remove it and reinstall it every time I had to do anything in the engine bay. It's always in the way. If I need nitrous I'll run a single dry shot and add fuel with AEM. No real distribution issues with a dry shot...

Long time no update. I don't even know where to start. Most of the big stuff was done in previous updates. I recently made a ton of small fixes to sort out all of the BS that was done poorly on this car. I still have a good list of shit to do. I did add a Kenne Bell Boost a Pump to raise voltage to the A1000, it was definitely running out of fuel. AFR dropped from 12:1 to 11:1 with no other changes.

Took it out to the NEDSM dyno day Saturday and ran it. The car made 570 whp on a mustang dyno at 40 psi dropping to ~36. Peak power was made at 8500 rpm/140 mph. Torque peak was around 360 at 7600 rpm. Full boost comes in around 7k. I'll post the chart later, and I'm still trying to sort out the videos. This would be around 650 whp on a dynojet. For perspective, the car went 9.3 at low 140s with 510 whp dynojet and more weight. The best part is that the car ran perfectly and had no issues. No leaks, fires, blown up slicks, etc.

I've got all the safety requirements sorted out finally. Fire supression system is not halon, so I'm safe from the 08 halon ban. Expired 5pt harness was replaced, etc. I still need a full fire suit, but I'm gonna rock the jacket as long as I can. Once I sort out the last few things on my list it's going to the track for a track rental. Maybe in ~2 weeks. I'm starting to get a little excited now about actually running it, now that the bulk of the work is behind me. :)

Sounds awesome Kev. Can't wait for those videos. Great progress and great power.

The power numbers are lower than I would like, the 6k rpm torque converter sucks up a ton of power. It's still plenty to get the job done though so I don't mind. :) I should have video up tomorrow.

Those numbers do seem a bit low, but maybe I am just ignorant. I was always under the impression that 42R's were good to like 800 hp. What fuel are you running in that bitch Kevin? Gonna run meth?

It is an 800 hp turbo. Considering that that's dynojet power, and I'm right around 650 DJ bench racing equivalent (it's actually pretty accurate), that leaves 150 lost to the auto tranny/TC. Not too far fetched. What seems most odd to me is that I seem maxed out at 38-40 psi boost. I know this setup moves some air at a given boost level, but I'm not sure that's right. I have to rig up some way to do a boost leak test on this POS.

A couple vids have been uploaded, but not the one I want up. My site seems to be down now too, but perhaps it will come up later, they're linked on the bottom of the RWD vids page.

After the car did so well on the dyno I decided to fix up some of the wiring issues I know the car has. So much for that. One thing led to another, and I ended up balls deep in a complete engine and chassis harness rebuild. Should be done tomorrow, and I'll sleep better knowing the car isn't going to burn to the ground and take the garage/house/parents with it... Oh, and it might work right too...

SO it put down 650 RWHP ?

Technically 570, on a Mustang dyno, which is the equivalent of 650 on the more popular Dynojet. Once I'm done tuning it on the Mustang dyno (awesome dyno for tuning!) I'll take it to the local Dynojet for the big number glory pass. If I can sort out a few little issues I think I can get it to 700whp DJ, which in a 2100 lb auto car should be at least two times what I need to kill myself when I stuff this toilet into the wall...

Dragged the car out to the track today for a rental looking to get some seat time before the BOTI event this weekend. I turned the boost down and made a bunch of partial shakedown runs to get used to the car, see if the brakes work, etc. Gradually turned up the wick as the day went on. In the end, at 29 psi, the very first full pass in this car was a 9.8 at 145. I can't even friggin believe it. 60' was 1.49 leaving relatively soft, 1/8th mph was 118. It's been dyno tuned up to 40 psi, and the HP difference between 30 and 40 psi was around 120 whp. LMAO.

The car goes pretty straight, but it's a bit of a handful still. I had a few scary moments as it got colder during my half track license runs, so I called it quits. Would have been nice to get the license out of the way. And now I can't run BOTI without it, LMAO. So much for the big rush. :D

I'm pretty happy with this of course, and I can't wait to launch it harder. I have to figure out how to pack the damn chute soon, wtf...

Damn dude, thats pretty sweet! Good luck next time around. Do you have any particular ET goals for the car?

The chassis is only legal for 8.50s, I'd like to run anything between that and 8.99. :) Considering that a better launch at this 145 trap speed is good for a low 9, I don't think it's too much of a stretch. But we'll see. :)

OMG keven... thats all i can say... OMFG!

Good job man. Running 9's on a conservative pass is pretty serious, IMO. I'm sure it will be crucial once you get it dialed in and get used to it!

Thanks guys. :) Next week should be a fun one. I'm going up on street night to finish my licensing passes, and then there is a local import event saturday where I plan to really launch the car.

What do you think (just rough guess) your time would be with boost dialed in and a great launch?

With boost right where it is at 29 psi it will run 9.1-9.2 at this mph. Trap speed will probably go up a couple as well, cars that are top end monsters are sensitive to short times. Make the track just 40 feet longer and there can be a big difference.

With boost cranked up I can see 8.50s at 160. I need more gearing or more rpm to get much over 150 though.

Here's a video (http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d143/Cutlassjim/DSM/Jewer/?action=view&current=DSCN2006.flv) of one of the slower shakedown passes. This was a 12.9 at 135 with a 2.3 short time. No changes were made between this pass and the 9.8 at 145, just leaving the line with another ~1200 rpm and ~10 psi for a 1.49. I wasn't going for a good burnout here, since I wasn't planning to launch it. The tech was actually busting my balls about the holes in my pants, they made me change. Good thing I saw this coming and brought another pair. :)

Were you in 1st gear all the way until just before the 1/8th? Oh wait, you're running a power glide arent you? That would make a little more sense, for some reason I thought you were on a turbo 350.

Yes, it's on a glide. Good question, let's see. First goes to about 80 mph with this gearing and this TC slippage, assuming there's no significant tire growth at this speed. It trapped 118 in the eighth, so it's in second long before the eighth. Hard to believe it can put on another 70mph in second, interesting. In that video it does look like I shifted right before the eighth with the lazy launch.

Went to the track tonight and got my 9 second license. Got some vids too.

10.3 at 148, (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/kjewer1/?action=view&current=RWD103148.flv) and tractionless (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/kjewer1/?action=view&current=RWDdrift.flv)

:lol: Did you just not burn out good enough on that second one or what? Any plans to get to the track for a real, hard run?

That was my burnout, John Force style. :D

The track runs the right lane all day wednesday for the track rental, very well prepped. When the track rental and and street night starts, they don't do any furthur track prep. It's only a matter of time before all off the street cars tear it up. Add to that the fact that it's still cold up here at night. Once hte sun starts to go down the track cools right off and moisture settles on it. I was hoping the light breeze would keep it dry, but it didn't last.

Saturday is the first local Import event. I was hoping to take advatange of the day time conditions and good track prep if the weather holds out. Unfortunately the steering rack snapped off in the driveway when I got home. One more thing I have to unfuck with this car.

Car is ready for today's event. If I only I could get more than 2-3 hours sleep now... This page (http://www.posracing.net/RWDprojects.html) details the fix for the broken steering rack bracket. I'm much more comfortable with this one at 150+ for some reason...

Damn Update us when you get a few good passes in ;)

Yeah dude, very nice! Be sure to let us know how today goes... and just know while you're at the track tearing ass down the strip, I'll be nuts deep in one of two finals ON A GOD DAMN SATURDAY.

Yeah dude, very nice! Be sure to let us know how today goes... and just know while you're at the track tearing ass down the strip, I'll be nuts deep in one of two finals ON A GOD DAMN SATURDAY.
sh*t... i'm so glad finals are over, i'm nuts deep in the WORST job i have ever had... however, i do plan on finding a new job in the next few hours using my current job's computer! :smokin:

EDIT: haha forgot the reason why i posted! Kevin, that bracket looks crazy better then the last one... GOOD job! lets get a onboard video perhaps today!?!?! that would be sweet! :2cents: good luck!

Man, I'd love to get an in car camera on this terlit... Someday.

Today ended with mixed results. Traction was great, but I'm dumb. After a couple runs to dial in the boost during qualifying I had a best of 10.2 at 144 or something like that. And then I ran out of nitrous. Yes, I'm that dumb. Car fell on its face in the final round with an 13.1 at 140. At least it's consistent. :D

Edit> The new steering bracket worked the balls. :D

13.1 at 140? Thats very high mph for the time. Car must be slow ass hell through the 1/8.

You must not have seen the videos. :) It's ridiculously slow at first. Launching at 3500 rpm with a turbo that spools at 7500 rpm = the fail.

Guess thats why your spraying it. What size shot do you run and do you spray it the hole track or just the first half or what?

Also, do you thinka differernt tranny would help, besides the 2 speed?
And what RPM stall do you have in it?

:rofl:!! A 13.1 at 140?! Thats awesome. How much nitrous are you running on it Kevin?

Just a 40 shot is enough to get another 2000+ rpm on the converter. The converter is whatever stall it stalls at. :D Changing AFR, timing, nitrous, etc, changes that. It's not like V8s where you can order a specific stall speed and have it come pretty close. The turbo and lack of torque without it throw a huge monkey wrench into things.

I only use the nitrous to spool it on the line. It stays on until I hit 5500-6000 rpm or 20-25 psi, whichever comes first, depending on where I have the AEM settings. The next step will be to leave it on until 7000-7500 rpm regardless of boost pressure. My guess is that with no other changes it will go real low 9s.

for your next pass teach your camera man how to work the zoom.

The camera had no zoom, sorry for your fail. My buddy brought a really nice/expensive camera but the batteries died, so those vids were taken on a crappy 2.0mp still camera.

I took the car back up last night with a 100 shot to spool, but turning it off and leaving on a regular 2 step. Nothing special to report, but I made some good progress on both the launch and the burnout.

It blew the tires off at 6500 and ~28 psi, but I didn't have a good burnout at all. Playing around I found that the lowest rpm I can turn the nitrous off at is 5500 without the rpm just falling back down. This is good for 20 psi. Luckily with a decent burnout it sticks this very well even at ~9 oclock and somewhere in the 50s. Unfortunately just as I hit the shifter I hit the rev limiter and fouled the plugs. I was hoping to blow the doors off that vette mid track for some good old fashioned fun. On the last pass it went 9.7 at 146 backing up the previous 9 second pass at least. Unfortunately the camera quit right before the tree came down. I'm hoping someone else that was there will get it to me, I heard there were a dozen people filing it. It did something weird at 8k rpm in first, and when it finally snapped out of it I shifted too early trying to avoid a repeat of the second run. Still a good result though, I just wanted to back up the 9.8 and get one good pass in before I went home.

I won't take it out again until the import event on the 28th. I gathered some good data and learned some good lessons, with a higher launch rpm and a sticky daytime track hopefully I can get some good runs in.

Hard launch going nowhere fast (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/kjewer1/?action=view&current=6500rpmlaunch.flv)

Good first gear but hit rev limiter (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/kjewer1/?action=view&current=Firstgearrevlimit.flv)

Burnout before 9.7 run (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/kjewer1/?action=view&current=Burnout.flv)

that was RE-DONK-A-LISS!!!!

Someone posted a blurry video of the 9.7 at 146 run. Low quality, but you get the idea.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v232/scdaddy7269/New Bests/?action=view&current=Kevin97.flv

Quick update. The car is still about the same, but has made some promising improvements. It runs mid-high 9s pretty consistently, and this week I should have the last of the bugs worked out.

-At the last import event on the 28th, a bystander noticed that my compressor outlet v-band connection was bollixed. Probably because the front right tire hits the LICP at full lock. Massive boost leak. Fixing that got me a 1.34 short time and 4.0 seconds to the 330, which is a quarter second quicker than it normally does! That's huge. Unfortunately the run was hosed due to other issues, see below.

-Bigtime voltage issues under power. I've logged as low as 10.4 volts on the starting line (with the transbrake, nitrous, etc all engaged) and low 11s through the traps. I believe this is the cause of the bad misfire I get between 8800 and 9200 rpm. The pump is on a voltage regulator at 14-15 volts, which saves the motor, but takes even more power from the rest of the system, like the ignition. 16v battery and charger show up Monday.

-Cams limiting me to 9k rpm. The 3k rpm drop on the 1-2 shift brings rpm down to below the point I can make full boost, it drops down to 23 psi or so and then has to recover by 6500-7000. This may be a little better with the boost leak fixed however. Additionally, with such a huge gear ratio spread, being able to take advantage of first gear (which is really like 2nd or 3rd for a 5 speed) for as long as possible is absolutely key to good ETs. FP 4Rs just went in, Video of the first startup is here. (http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/kjewer1/?action=view&current=RWDFP4Rs.flv)

Boost is still only at 29-30 psi. I refuse to turn it up until the car runs what it can really do at this boost level. With these changes it should easily do low 9s, maybe a little better. :) Fuckin sweet. Next trip up is Friday... I have to completely retune, so hopefully I get enough runs to make a go at it.

Man that thing sounds sooo mean. It sounds like you are getting down to the nitty gritty of the problems so I am expecting to hear about an 8 second pass soon :)

Not yet. :) Small update. I put a 16 volt system in Friday and tested it, seems to have resolved all of my low voltage misfiring issues. Unfortunately I only got two runs and couldn't get much tuning done for the FP4Rs. I'll try again this Friday.

Made some good progress yesterday!

Timeslips here (http://www.posracing.net/files/RWDslip91150.jpg)

Cams are tuned in well, but there is still a lot left on the table both in power and in the launch. Can't wait for the shootout!

Damn dude, more left on a 1.2 second 60' time?! Nice yo! :)

Yup, the car still squawks the hoosiers and hops to the right a little. I didn't know about either of these until I watched some video footage at the track yesterday. I'll take 1.2s all day long though, but between the 60 and the 330 I need to get more work done in order to get the ETs down to where they should be at this mph.

Here's a link to the videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h6ZXoujZW0

Was that you that went 8.97 at 156 at the shootout?????????

If it was too bad about the finals.

RIP BILLY Thats SAD