Progress: 1/24 Ferrari F430 Challenge

:grinyes: Hooray Robi's back. Paintwork looks great, polished out really nice.

I know that some people are having troubles with Revell's plastic in there new releases with it reacting with even mild paints. Apparently it is caused by the plastic, I think they are using a new formula and this is causing the problems. Haven't heard anything negative about Fujimi's or Tamiya's plastic yet.

Mike.

Great looking finish, Robi :thumbsup:
Nice to see you posting again! :)

Robi,
Nice to see you back! I hope all is well.
Did you thin the decanted Tamiya paint? If you did, I would say that the thinner was too hot. That happens sometimes with lacquers and causes etching?
You have done a great job polishing the body anyway. It looks really smooth!

Great work.Nice to see you again!

hi rob~ is there any update on your engine modifiation~?
im kinda following your progress to modify mine and im kinda stuck~ =.=

Great paint job. As said before, white is just a lovely color to play with. Nice Depth on the color btw.

Nice to see you back Robi! I have been waiting in hopes for your return. Have you by chance seen the wonderful luck I have had with mine?! I now hate the f430!! LOL Not really, but I am about there.

that`s awesome! can`t wait to see it finished

Guys, thank you for the welcome-back messages, really touching. Thanks !

Mike (I think they are using a new formula and this is causing the problems. Haven't heard anything negative about Fujimi's or Tamiya's plastic yet) > The same opinion, Mike. Fujimi is doing the same, my friend Alessandro had the same troubles on his F430 Option and Challenge too, I got the Cayman last week and apparently seems the same poor, or at least critical, plastic quality. I also think Tamiya is changing his TS formula, probably due to new restrictions. Anyone knows?

robrex (Did you thin the decanted Tamiya paint?) > No Rob, I did not, just to avoid the problems you’re explaining !

bai (is there any update on your engine modification?) > Not at the moment, I’m slowly working on the F430, sorry.

Enzoenvy1 (Have you by chance seen the wonderful luck I have had with mine?!) > Yes man, you’re crazy ! I damaged the final color with my motortool but I did not re-paint the whole car, just retouched the body with the same color applied with a brush and then sanded and polished, btw what a patient you have !!!

That’s all for the moment, bye ! R :)

Simply unbelievable. Plz continue to awe us!

Many thanks for the comments (really appreciated), but please keep the superlatives for the Masters, not me, present in this board.

Robi :)

Many thanks for the comments (really appreciated), but please keep the superlatives for the Masters, not me, present in this board.

Robi :)

ti viene ancora sù la salamella coi peperoni? :D

...So, what about this progress...? :grinno:

...So, what about this progress...? :grinno:

Great bumping Mr. Prini!!! Thanks for bringing this back to life~:lol: Hey Robi got something to show?:naughty: :evillol: This is simply one of the highest expecting threads!!!

...So, what about this progress...? :grinno:

:banhim: :slap: :D

I'd like to thanks all of you who sent me encouraging messages. I''ll be back probably very soon with this.

Thanks again: Robi :)

any update?

No, sorry. I'm currently out for business.

Robi :)

Hi Guys, I’ve to be honest: I lost motivation in my F430. Meanwhile I always followed your works here, started a pair of new kits, and now timidly re-started working on this. Still pending the critical point of the engine, I tried to find out something relaxing.
Once again, I cleaned and cured all the panel lines

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch163.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch164.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch165.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch166.jpg

Then, I moved on the undercarriage. One of the main problem of this F430 is its line, here and there it needs to be slimmed and since the tail looks a little “heavy” I partially sanded the bottom of the rear diffuser

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch167.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch168.jpg

At the same time I slightly reshaped the intake plenum, too squared for the Challenge

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch169.jpg

That’s all for the moment, sorry for the tiny update. I hope to restarted seriously soon.
Thanks for your comments and attention.

Bye: Robi :)

No worries on the tiny update Robi, just happy to see you back building, it's your stuff that always inspires me to try something new.

Mike

nice WIP!!!!

i'm waiting the engine progress and the interior...

byee

Good to see you back on this one!

Robi, the paint looks great! especially the panel lines!

Robi, your thread made me order one, please don't stop :D

Mike, YoJ, Alex, Rob: thanks !!

Sasa: Hmmm… I understood I have to finish this :iceslolan

I'm working on seat and seat belts, see you soon.

Bye: Robi

i'm building another 430 and i want to see your interior!!!i love the 430 interior!!haha

byeee!

Hi, as previously told, I’m taking care about the seat belts and I’m also working on the interiors.
I’m still choosing the proper etched set: some of the current 1/24 available seem to be a bit undersized and I’d like to test the cloth material I recently bought on eBay

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch170.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch171.jpg

Then, since I had from beginning the EP-0012 set from Crazy Modeler for the F430 which carry the dash’s vents (the F430 Challenge set doesn’t), I removed the molded-in vents drilling the pertinent holes and made a test with the positioning of the etched items. For sure it will be easier to cleanly paint

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch172.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch173.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch174.jpg

Have a nice weekend: Robi

helo,

where do you buy seat belt material, it's very interested

Gérald

Gerald, I bought the seat belt material here

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SEAT-BELT-MATERIAL-for-all-scales-all-models_W0QQitemZ130191787222QQihZ003QQcategoryZ258 1QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or you could contact the seller directly: [email protected]

Bye: R

The PE vents look super. The body-work in the previous post is outstanding too.

Gerald, I bought the seat belt material here

[Bye: R

Roberto could you contact me, I have sent several messages whitout answer.

Awsome work so far!

billypee > thank you. Nice website you have, I like it !

thadude > thanks !


Hi to all, another tiny update.

On the seat, some holes for the seat belts are missing. I started drilling the guide holes with the motortool
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch175.jpg

and then refined them with a mill, file and #1200 grit
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch176.jpg

also slightly rescribed the seat lines to have more contrast once painted
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch177.jpg

I’ll start from the back, so I prepared the “jig” for the carbon decals (KA Models) using paper tape
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch178.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch179.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch180.jpg

The jig has been placed on the back of the decals to trace the shape
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch181.jpg

Then, to improve the adhesion of the decals I sprayed with gloss clear the back of the seat
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch182.jpg

Soon the rest. Have a nice weekend and thanks for watching!

Robi :)

Nice step by step Robi. The holes you drilled in the seat are much neater than I usually manage with a pin vice and a scalpal; I am going to use your technique next time.

P.S. Thanks for the kind words about my website.

Nice Job as always Robi. One Question: The KA CF decal sheet...that's the "A" version, right? That looks nice....gotta try it :-)

billypee > thank you !

jaykay > thanks. Yes, decals sheet "A"

Bye: Robi

Hi again.

I wanted to test the KA decals: it comes from Cartograf (so a warranty itself). I cut out the template I prepared and I traced two small cuts in the lower area
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch183.jpg

Then, with softening solution and hairdryer I worked the decals. I got many plies and I'm not satified with the result (the truth is that I MUST practice !!!), but the KA decals is really sturdy and on less complex surfaces would turn out really nice
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch184.jpg

That's all for the moment. Bye !

Robi :)

Not satisfied....thats okay, just send them to me...;)

Seriously, it looks great...I cant see where youve gone wrong....

Dang... Glad i got here before the show was over. Now i'm glad tonights racing got rained out. What a great way to spend a rainy saturday evening. I've learned alot from you guys over the last hour or so. Keep up the great work; i will be watching.

Hi Robi,

on the photos it looks cool, just keep in mind, that the CF is hard to see on the finished model ;-)

cameraboy5 > Thank you !

JT > Do you see what I meant with "plies" ? Anyway, I'll wait to see the result after the clearcoat and, as Micha said, at the end it will be not so visible, problably I'll keep it so :)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch185.jpg

Byeeeeeee

if I get that kinf of wrinkles I apply a fe coats od Microset, this will help to get rid of the wrinkles..not allways bur sometimes :-)

daniel
-germany-

Hi Daniel, I have to buy the Microsol/set. Mr. Mark Softer is fine but not strong as the Microscale item.
Anyway, I clearcoated the seat and I'll keep it, too lazy to re-start :iceslolan

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch186.jpg

Bye: Robi :)

1) with the clearcoat, you can barely tell; and 2) that area of the seat back won't show on the model. Nice job!

Robi don't use Gunze on KA decals, the thing is that it doesn't work as well as it should, it dries the decal to fast, to much. Microscale works much better but even no solvent + hairdryer works fine. KA CF is the best one I have tried.

Despite everything, clear coat really gives that something. Nice and clear work.

glad to see that you are back on this project. nice work with the CF

Robi don't use Gunze on KA decals, the thing is that it doesn't work as well as it should, it dries the decal to fast, to much.

Yes, I recognized it too late. First time using KA, I'll keep your suggestion for the next time, thank you !

Ariel > Thanks for your comment

Bye: Robi

Hi,
No news about this beautiful work in progress ??????

No lascar, all the parts are currently stocked on the top of a wardrobe, sorry.

Robi

Hi Roberto,

I was following this WIP since the start.

A very good work. Please come back modeling over this masterpiece!
CF on back of seat is incredibly shining!

Did you use TOPCOAT from Gunze? Is that aggressive as Ts13 with decals?

Congratulazioni, un ottimo lavoro!! e che verniciatura.. (few italian words for RobiJ)

Cobra

Ciao Cobra,

many thanks for the kind words about my Challenge, always and really appreciated.

Top Coat is from Mr. Hobby

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/Various/IMG_4652.jpg

if you need it, try here
http://www.modellismobaracca.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=258&osCsid=4538643870add5f00e15feae07400c00

or there
http://www.dodicicilindri.it/html/home.htm

I tested the B-501 on a scrap body with Tamiya and JWTM (Cartograf) decals a couple of years ago. No reaction at all, Top Coat in my experience is definitely not aggressive on decals, instead of the TS-13. Furthermore is easier to polish to glass shine and seems more steady over the years.

Robi

Hi Robi,

I saw this product at the Novegro fair last time I was there ( for all the friends here on AF, Novegro is a town where a Hobby exhibition is done every year, few Km. from Milan ) but I was not very convinced about its potentials.

I've been always little scared by TS13, It has to be used very very carefully!

I know ModellismoBaracca, it's great shop!

I definetly go there to have a look for this clear:bananasmi!

Grazie e a presto!

Cobra

Perfectly described progress, it is very interesting to look at your work!

Perfectly described progress, it is very interesting to look at your work!

Many thanks, Sebastian.

R :)

Many thanks, Sebastian.

R :)

What works?
Guys we must push this lazy man, I think under the skin he still like to stick his fingers :D :D :D

Absolutely stunning work! looking at this inspires me to start building kits again,keep up the good work.well done :)

Any progress on this Robi?

It´s a too good start to abandon it now buddy!:naughty:

I´m gonna dig into the Porsche you sent me decals for again later this week, so come on let´s start up together....I´m itching to see some more progress.

Cheers!

Emil

Great job, but when we can see update?

Great job, but when we can see update?

Sorry facman, but I fear I'll be away from modeling for a long time. Anyway thanks.

Robi

I'm following this thread pages to pages, but the last posts shocked me...:frown::frown:

considering your talent, i'm sorry to hear that mate...

anyway, if there is a "best thread" award...i will definitely vote this one..
:smile::smile::smile: