Progress: 1/24 Ferrari F430 Challenge

Fantastic Robi, step by step progress with tools on pictures.....that's what I like.

Hi again and many thanks for the comments !!

I cleaned the slot on the rear end and, before sanding away the lower grille underneath the license plate, I reinforced the locator pins with two small styrene rods dia. 2 mm / .080 inch
The tool shown in the second photos is a cement dipping stick that I found so simple but incredibly useful (from Crazy Modeler, I bought it at http://hiroboy.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24_50&products_id=482 ).
Bye: Robi

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch54.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch55.jpg

Absolutely stunning progress! This is my tutorial thread for the upcoming Challenge model.

Hi again and thank you for the comments. Checking to my ref photos I realized that the outer ring of the wheels are rather thick, Fujimi did not replicated it correctly.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/Various/430CHW.jpg

So, just for a check I add a strip of styrene over the kit rims. Here a comparison with and without the strips.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch56.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch57.jpg

Thanks for looking: Robi :)

very clean work!

Hi Guys, do you remember the sketch on page 4 ? So, this evening I took care about those bulkhead elements to be scratchbuilt. I started cutting out with a pair of scissors the first plate from .010”/0.25 mm styrene, then with the help of a steel template I drilled some holes to simulate the plate fixing
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch58.jpg

Next was the rectangular “ring”, made of .020”/0.5 mm styrene. First, I traced its shape…
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch59.jpg

and then I roughly cut the inner portion using the SRC etched blade
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch60.jpg

refining the cut with files and #1000 grit
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch61.jpg

To avoid distortions, I cut the perimeter with the etched blade as well and refined it with #1000 grit
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch62.jpg

From strip styrene, I made the two lateral reinforcements, while the four square plates have been cut from .020”/0.5 mm styrene
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch64.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch63.jpg

Finally, I just placed the pieces on the bulkhead for a quick visual check
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch65.jpg

Thanks for looking and comments: Robi :)

Wow Robi your scratch building skills are excellent. You sure make it look easy.

Mike.

EDIT: Where did you get that metal rule/template in the first pic?

Where did you get that metal rule/template in the first pic?

Mike, thank for your comment, then ...I bought this accessory a dozen of years ago in a local hobby shop focused on aircraft modeling. On it there's a logo which says "Scale Aircraft Modelling - Designed by PP Models".

No further infos, sorry.

Robi

Great piece of scratchbuilding!

Hey Rob! ... been awhile... your skills are just great! Cant wait for the finish product... looks so good already with all the details :eek:

that's very serious build,come on robi~keep us updated,i really enjoy this thread.

:eek2:

Wow, your friggin sick!! sweet work.

Thank you guys for the comments.
While waiting for the specific Crazy Modeler upgrade set, I started taking care about some items which will be improved with the etched parts. In detail, I removed the callipers from their discs, both front and rear, using my faithfull blade and refined the parts with #1000 grit
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch66.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch67.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch68.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch69.jpg

Then I had to open the yet nice grilles on the bumper’s air intakes
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch70.jpg

With a motortool I roughly milled away the central portion and then, with round and flat files and sandpaper - #600, #1000 – I cured the obtained openings
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch71.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch72.jpg

The intakes fit perfectly the bumper
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch73.jpg

Bye: Robi :)

Hi to all,
working here and there I discovered that these two crossed protrusions interfere with the rollcage and are not necessary for the glasses fixing
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch74.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch75.jpg

So, with a spherical mill I removed both
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch76.jpg

and the windshield fit is, anyway, perfect. I have now to check any possible interference with the rollcage
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch77.jpg

Pages ago, I mentioned about to increase the rims diameter. I tried to care about this topic tonight without success. First of all I choosed a thinner styrene (.010”/0.25 mm), here a comparison, on the left the (not yet) modified one
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch78.jpg

Then, to avoid glueing the strip in one step only, I superglued only a very small area with the intention to proceed with the rest once dried
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch79.jpg

…but I did not recognized a slight conicity of the rims and this is the result. The strip will not match the circumference of the rims. So I have to remove it and start again living a bigger gap (on the outer face of the rim) between the strip and the rim, and sand down. Hmm… less easy than expected…
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch80.jpg

I set aside the wheels and superglued on the body the sideskirts
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch81.jpg

…and the inner portions of the air outlets on the front bumper
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch82.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch83.jpg

That’s all for the moment. Thanks for looking and see you next week.
Bye: Robi :)

It's not fair, you have too much talent!

I don't like it! I prefer to eat poo then to admit I m jealous!

I m not jealous!

Oli
I think I'll be having luch with Oli :D

Amazing work Robi :thumbsup:

I think I'll be having luch with Oli :D

Amazing work Robi :thumbsup:

Leave something for your slim buddy :D :evillol:

i'm jealous...i admit,i'm really jealous...= =

Fantastic progressions! I am enjoying this build very much.

I have to say that your build is amazing but the thing I like best about your post is that you show more step by step than a lot of people do. Threads like this really help me out thanks and again GREAT build!

I have to say that your build is amazing but the thing I like best about your post is that you show more step by step than a lot of people do. Threads like this really help me out thanks and again GREAT build!

Its true, you're doing a great job, keep it up.


Regards,
Carlos Jorge

Hi to all and thank you again for the comments. Glad to hear that someone of you is enjoying my step-by-step procedure. I honestly think that “sharing” is the secret of our hobby and I’m doing my best to share with you my experiences and techniques, hope this could be helpful.

Then, I’m working very very slowly on the F430. I was disappointed with the previous negative result obtained with the rims, so I decided to focus on them immediately to solve the problem. I realized would has been necessary to have a sort of starting offset. I cut out a disc, made of 0.5 mm/.020” styrene, diameter a little smaller than the rim’s diameter. I put the rims onto the disc and proceed as previously described
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch84.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch85.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch86.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch87.jpg

due the rim’s conicity, note how I got an offset on the starting point (on the right) while the end point where there’s the joint is nearly at the same level of the rim (on the left)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch88.jpg

with a file, I sanded down the offset, trying to get an even surface
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch89.jpg

I also built a pin (4mm/.156” styrene tube superglued on 2.5 mm/.098” aluminium pipe) to fix the rims which have to be handled on a motortool
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch89A.jpg

installed the rim on it and finished with file and then #1000 grit. Those steps need to be carried with the maximum attention, it is really easy to damage the rims (I did it)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch90.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch91.jpg

I did not work on the four rims at a time. I first finished one to check the result. Here a shot of the first one with a coat of primer and the alu locking nut in position
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch92.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch93.jpg

and then I just placed it under the body to see how it looks. This will be most probably the final stance
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch95.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch94.jpg

Thanks again for your strenuous attention and… bye: Robi :)

once in a blue moon a kick azz WIP thread comes along and makes me say "Sweet God this is awesome"....and this is one of them... EXCELLENT!! Keep it up!!

looking great so far,will be following this build keep up the good work.

Great job buddy! Seem just out from the Tamy mold: I guess hard to translate manico :D :smokin:

go robi go

:bigthumb: Hey ROB! still going strong man! Right now im trying to get my decals printed. If its done perfectly ill send you a copy of the missing decal. Its the F430 challenge plate u find on the dash that is missing... This should help u build up a fully detailed car. Also if u lack the BBS decals on the rims let me know .. i can try to get those done as well.

awesome!every step you did are just awesome!totally inspiring!!

OMG DUDE! This WIP is awesome! Can't wait to see more. I love those 'action' shots with the file and the Dremel tool-just add some audio clips and it's like I'm right there beside you:lol:. Keep up the good work.

Al

Impressive craftsmanship and nice tutorial. Thanks for sharing!

Great work, that rimm look great.


Regards,
Carlos Jorge

Thanks, thanks and thanks for your comments !

Then, stance test. I finished all the rims and wanted to check. The diameter of the front tires need to be reduced, absolutely.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch97.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch96.jpg

Byeeeeee :)

If its done perfectly ill send you a copy of the missing decal. Its the F430 challenge plate u find on the dash that is missing... This should help u build up a fully detailed car. Also if u lack the BBS decals on the rims let me know .. i can try to get those done as well.

Gamerxz, thank you !! Concerning the BBS logos instead, I do have some spare decals.

Bye: Robi :)

Wow, a pleasure to watch your work, I want to see more:grinyes:

How did a miss this thread! You've done an amazing work so far, i'll definitively be following this build ;)

Proceeding without any logic, I removed the molded-in grille on the rear bumper
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch98.jpg

I started sanding the area within the fixing pins
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch99.jpg

then milled the lateral areas and finished with #600 and #1000 grits
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch100.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch101.jpg

Bye: Robi :)

Amerzing.

It's so great I refuse to spell amazing correctly.

Just amerzing.

Smooth work, I have to star doing that to my models. You're going to use "real" grid? I have some for 1/43, I have to find for 1/24...


Regards,
Carlos Jorge

Hi again, tiny update.

deltableh > thank you !!

Carlos > Yes, I’m going to use the CM upgrade set

So, I took care about some details on the cockpit. To make easier the painting of the door panels (carbon fiber), I cut away from them the part which will be glued on the cockpit floor
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch102.jpg

Then, despite the panel itself is not so bad, I removed the inner parts to give to the panel more depth and realism. I started drilling holes in the inner perimeter
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch103.jpg

milled away the part with a conical tool
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch104.jpg

and refined with #1000 grit
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch105.jpg

The door panels will be completed with new surrounds made of styrene.
My F430 will carry one seat only, so, despite I’m not sure about that area because I do not have correct references, I decided to remove the molded-in seat guides from the floor
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch106.jpg

with a spherical tool I milled them away and refined the area with #600 and #1000 grit
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch107.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch108.jpg

Most probably not correct, I built from styrene a sort of guides frame, made of .040” / 1 mm square the transversal ones and .020”x.080” / 0.5x2 mm the longitudinal ones. Using the steel template shown in the photo I drilled on each strip seven holes
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch109.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch110.jpg

Hope you’ll enjoy. Bye !

Robi :)

Rob.. i think the challenge had two seats.. :p My friend got to sit in one before.. and i remember seeing two seats in the picture :rolleyes:

come and learn as soon as you updated~~~:)

This is one of the best threads for a long time, I hope to see this one completed, keep up the good work :)

Gamerxz > I know, some Challenge have two seats, but the race versions carry one only. Mine should be a "ready to race" version. Anyway, even at the presentation the F430 had a seat only

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/Various/F430ch_press-800x600.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/Various/F430ch_press1-800x600.jpg

Steve > thank you !!!

Bye: Roberto :)

This is one of the best threads for a long time, I hope to see this one completed, keep up the good work :)

I cannot agree more!

In order to slim the bodywork, I removed approx 0.40"/1mm of material from the side skirts and the front bumper

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch111.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch112.jpg

Thanks for comments and attention. Nice weekend !!

Robi :)

I love all the tiny details on one of my favourite cars ever. Great job on the stance, looks so good. Can't wait for more updates on this. Great wip to follow too :)

Great thread, your work is going to pay off at the end.

What did you use as a "carpet"? That looks great.

Keep it up, I'm learning a lot...


Regards,
Carlos Jorge

What did you use as a "carpet"?

I guess you mean the anti-skid plate. It's part of the upgrade set from Crazy Modeler, here's my review http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=633773

Bye: Robi :)

“So, what shall we do with this fire extinguisher ?”. This was my friend Alessandro yesterday during a phone call, he’s also working on a Challenge. In five minutes we declared that the kit part is horrible and there are no offers from the aftermarket…
When I saw the F1-2000 progress from Mr. Kamimura, last year, I’ve been impressed, among the other things, how he scratchbuilt from bare aluminium rod, some fire bottles using a motortool. Hmmm…

So I bought 1 meter of alu rod dia. .23”/6mm and cut in pieces (1.55”/40mm). A drill, a file and sandpaper
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch113.jpg

To avoid surface damages, I wrapped some styrene around the rod and fixed in the drill. At a rather high speed I started filing the rod to obtain a perpendicular cut. Then with the file again I gave to the rod a little rounded shape. I refined it with sandpaper #150, #600 and #1000. And this is the first side of the bottle
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch114.jpg

I traced the length (a little more) where to cut the rod
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch115.jpg

and started cutting
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch116.jpg

At this stage, I removed the unnecessary piece from the drill and installed what will be the bottle with the finished side in the drill, always protected by the styrene
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch117.jpg

and repeated the same filing procedure above described
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch118.jpg

and this is the result
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch119.jpg

Using the kit part as reference, I drilled out two holes .051”/1.3mm on the bottle
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch120.jpg

and some cable terminals (is it the right word ?) to detail the bottle have been used
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch121.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch122.jpg

These small pipes have been hammered on the bottle
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch123.jpg

Strap, caps and cable will added for further detailing. Despite this part will be almost hidden once installed, I’m really pleased with the result, considering that it was my first attempt on such topic.

Many, many thanks for your kind words. Also thanks for looking.

Bye: Robi :)

Cool, another update. Looks good Robi, I have tried that with a moto-tool but eventually gave up and bought myself a lathe.
What are the cable terminals for (in real life) I have never seen those before and I could use those kinds of tips for various things.

What are the cable terminals for (in real life) I have never seen those before

Mike, I have seen them used on the terminal boards of industrial control cubicles and CPU connections

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/Various/210_1045.jpg

Those have been a gift from a German ex-colleague.

Robi :)

brilliant....learn and learn and learn....

Outstanding idea Robi!

I am really enjoying this build.

:wink: Rob... u know what im going to say...

Hi Robi,

just another How-To that makes me :eek2:

You make it look so simple and like you've been doing it since you learned to walk...

Nice job, you couldn't do it better.


Regards,
Carlos Jorge

beautiful...subscribed!!

Amazing detail work! Your pictures and description are very helpful.


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a163/RJ1108/F430%20Challenge/430ch121.jpg

Don´t tell me these things are called "aderendhülsen" in Italy as well, or where did you bought them!?:sly:

Amazing detail work!
Don´t tell me these things are called "aderendhülsen" in Italy as well, or where did you bought them!?:sly:
:rofl::rofl::cwm27: I don´t think so... In Germany there is a home store called "Prevo". There should be some to find.

Robi, how do you manage to do a picture during work? Or do you have a photographer? Great skills you have and thanks for showing them. It´s a pleasure to watch your work!

... In Germany there is a home store called "Prevo".

I only know Pivo :cheers:, never heard of Prevo!:biggrin:

Hi, thanks to all for the comments.

DasWiesel > In Italy these things are called “capicorda”. Anyway I got them a few years ago from a German ex-colleague, as gift. I guess, but I have to verify, that should be found in the electronics shops.

Risko > No photographer. Normally I place the camera between the subject and me, using a mini-tripod. I usually take the focus while holding (for example) the motortool with the left hand firmly placed on the table. Using the self-timer set to 10 secs I have the time to go into the scene with the right hand holding a file or something else. I normally use the apertures setting with f7.1 and a consequent exposure time of approx 1/8 sec. I take at least 4-5 shots to be sure about the result.

Bye: Robi :)