cars I hate!

Yeah, which is why we pass them ::flipa:

Citroen does make a good car, cheap too. The Xsara WRC kit car, it's pretty fast, and has unbelieveable handling.

God I hate Trabants!
http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~esakokki/trabant.jpg
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/germany/stories/view.berlin/story.trabant.cnn.jpg

HATE HATE HATE

I was wondering what a Trabant looked like. Thats one UGLY peice of shit! lol Almost makes me want to drive a Pacer if I had to pick between the two! lol

wheres the rest of it.

Pastor got a Honda I had to leave church.

Yeah, they have a 2 stroke 2 cylinder motor that runs on Turpentine and Kerosene. I hate these cars more than you could imagine.

Turpentine and Kerosene????? Holy shit! You can keep that peice of shit! lol By the way, maybe someone can help me out here. I would like to know how to post a picture in the box beside the message box. The box I'm talking about is the one that has the member name, type of car, where you live, ect. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Yeah, what do you think about Pacers now? :)

The pic is called your avatar. You can change it in your profile, under preferences I think. You have to upload one, and there is a maximum size... I don't remember what it is offhand, but I had to squeeze the Cerbera in mine.

No doubt about it. If I had to pick between the two, I'd drive a Pacer with a smile on my face (although I'd HAVE to put a V-8 in it)! lol Thanks for the info on the avatar. Someone else helped me earlier. it's 100 pixels by 100 pixels. Mine barely fit too. :devil:

What about Messerschmidts? How low could BFW(BMW) fall...
http://members.aol.com/metrocars/metnet/messer.gif

:eek: Looks like an old model Volkswagen Beetle that was left in the dryer for too long! lol Also looks like a toy I would buy for my 3 year old daughter! lol How many of those abominations did BMW make? And let me guess, this picture was taken in a museum. I really wouldn't consider that car a piece of automotive history. Oddity maybe, but definately not history! lol Here's a question for you. If you had to pick between that toy and the Trabant, which would you pick? lol :sun:

If you have the June (?) 2001 issue of Top Gear (With the new and old MINI on the front) you will know about awful Eastern European cars (Exceot my favaourite car-of-the-moment teh Skoda Octavia RS
:frog:

Cars I hate are, Azteks, Pontiac Vibe( which is just a toyota matrix looking Aztek) and I also find most of the Benz's to be ugly.

i fuckin hate Camaros,mustangs,corvettes,and shit like that.o yeah i hate kias and hyundais but the worse of all GEOS.i freakin hate those things.:monkeypis GEOS,FORDS,CHEVY,KIAS,AND HYUNDAIS

:o Chimpee must own a Honda.

lol
probably a civic type r

Originally posted by |Banchi1O5|
lol
probably a civic type r

Wrong - a GT-R with a Zetec engine. Mete cool!

I would make my own car before I drove a Geramn or Jap car.

I would tell you to shoot first. before I would take one.

Huh..well I guess you won't have to make your own 'cause I've never heard of a Geramn car...and Jap...is that a new make? :finger: :D

i would shoot myself in the foot before id drive a honda!

Volkswagon means ugly car

Originally posted by GPrince
Volkswagon means ugly car

Actually it means peoples car................

More reliable than American cars..........Better looking than American cars...........Safer than (most)American cars..............Even a 1.4 litre Golf would eat a Neon, Cavalier or Escort alive.........Better to drive than American cars...........More practical than American cars......More ergonomically correct than American cars.....Need I go on???? :mad: :mad:

$250 for starter is practical?

and did you say Dodge Neofff?
but then front wheel drive can't impress me.

WHAAAATTTT???? $250 my ass, I can get one for NZ$50 from one of the many scrapped Mk 2 Golf's.......

So yes it is practical

Also what are the odds of Starters buggeringing up in a new VW??? ZERO for at least 6 or 7 years.

I am guessing when you say that you would never drive a Jap car or German car that you are ruling out Supra, 911 Turbo, Skyline GTR, RX7, M3, M5, MINI Cooper S, MR2 Turbo, AMG Mercs and the JC Cosmo.......Too bad you are really missing out

Come on name a domestic of recent better than any of those cars........Only the Viper and Corvette get close (But still fall short)

Yes, but in his mind, a "chevy" is inherently better than any of those cars...

Keep in mind, an import of any kind can't compare in any way to his "chavuuh"

I guess I am gauging all front wheel drive baced on the experience I have had with Honda and Toyota. 2 transmissions, 3 water pumps, one starter. and yes the starter cost $250. but I guess if it has the name Honda stamped on it," it must be made of Gold", and even so at the time I liked the car. and oh did I mention the fact the thing would never stay in tune. the story is simalar with a front wheel drive Buick I drove for a while.
and the Toyota Pickup ran fine just a gutless wonder. but then I really tried to do real things with like tow something. and I don't figure 8 mi per gallon is worth it. but I guess within the design parameters of the thing it worked as promised. but then it was rear wheel drive.

I live in the moutainoust Northwest so it may be harder on things than what you are used to.

and Yes I do drive Chevy half ton and it has given me no more problems than the toyota. but don't lack for ability.

AND I just Guess I take Pride in the products made in the land of my birth. the Good ol US of A.
Pride is a good thing.
If your from Japan I can understand taking Pride in the Produts made there too.

people say American Cars are crap. but only after we tryed to copy every one else.
the cars we have stuck to the spirit of our automotive heritage, "are truly great cars."
I wonder why we have turned from ourself. and acknowledge everything else. do we lothe our self so much?

Apparently you don't realize this, but about half the "imports" are now made in the good 'ol US of A.

It's the same as manufacturers. Every country makes good cars, and every country makes bad cars. You dislike the front drivers, I can agree there. I don't like front drive much at all, the only benefits it has are in bad weather, and an AWD vehicle works much better for that!

Keep in mind, that although it is good to have pride in ones country, the US has never made as good cars as the Germans, and it's not likely they ever will. Not to take anything away from American cars, but the Germans make unbelievably good cars.

So where in the NW are you from? I live in a nice coastal town in BC.

Well my close experience with German cars. is the Rabbit and Bug. the Bug is an interesting Concept. Simple in design however limited in capacity and ability, but for the time innovative. The Rabbit, a better overall designs. But still limited. Not to ruffle any feathers, this is my opinion. The Rabbit did not inspire me.
I know someone who has had Mercedes and he liked them. he was particularly impressed with the fuel injuction system. I have no first hand knowledge of them.

as far as where am I from.

Ever hear of Moscow?

I can imagine how beetles and rabbits might jade you a little... Find out a little bit about the new BMW 5 and 7 series, or the MB SL500... the new SL500 is IMO the perfect car... it's got all sorts of fancy new gadgets, like self adjusting suspension, power folding hardtop, 3 different kinds of traction control... handles like a sports car, goes like a muscle car, and rides like a rolls royce...

Minivans, i hate those things!!!

who don't hate mini vans?





shhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! don't let any one hear.

All this data is derived from Computer Sims

Power plant supercharged .8 l (yes I said point 8 L) 2 cycle radial 3 cylinder.
making 1450 Hp at 11000 rpm and 725 FT/LB of torque at 10000 rpm and still brings in 450 FT/LB of torque at 2000 rpm with Direct cylinder Fuel injection, Fuel being H2 (if we are going to switch to hydrogen we need to capture the imagination of the people). And it has the Octane rating to handle 15 to 1 compression ratio. 2.4 inch stroke with 3 inch bore. The whole engine with supercharger is slightly larger than a coffee can, and would sit under the floorpan along with the 6 speed Lycoming Airshifted Transmission, with Auto and manual mode. some times it's just way to fun to shift. Clutch is Fluid, no disk.


The Chassis mid mounted Power plant, AWD, body, Chassis, suspension and drivetrain, are all made of Carbon Graphite.

82 inch wheelbase
Curbweight a little over 1300 lb.

Quarter mile time just under 6 seconds and toping 235 miles per hour while still in 4th gear.
Fuel economy I figure around 14 mi per gallon.

Sounds nice, but I think it would have to be a little bigger than a coffee can if it was a radial with a 2.4" stroke, especially one that has to handle 15:1 SC. That's 15:1 off boost static compression?

I want to see one of those Audi 5 cylinders out of the S cars on hydrogen! It's 2.2 liters, makes 260ftlbs at 1950rpm, and peak power of 230hp at 5800 rpm, with a redline of 7000-8000, depending on application. That's on 92 octane...

BMW recently had an older 7 series on the show car circuit, running on hydrogen. It was a really simple conversion, and it made quite a bit more power than the gas. Not only does have a higher octane rating, it also contains more energy.

There's a good page that has info on a propane swap, and table with info about various fuel types...

http://www.gmi.edu/~lpgvan/SAE-LPG.html

here's a nice "cars i hate" post. we flipped a sentra today. going very fast on 595 in florida just before nob hill road when all of a sudden the stupid civic in front of uys slams on his brakes... not the worst yet.... swurve... swurve... ditch... FLIP! all three of us in the car were all OK but we were ready to chase down that dam civic and kill the dumbass driving. the meds said 5 more feet and we would all have been dead..., anyone know what it's like to breathe down death's neck by 5 freakin feet? well I DO! today was not my day to die. love you all and it's good to be alive!

i would hunt down that honda and fucking ram into the back of there car. especially if its a rental car, f uck up there car and then pay the deductible and be good.

what is it with people and small cars?

not too long ago one pulled out in front of me while I was driving a loaded 2 ton truck.

they pulled out only 35 feet in front of me. I could do nothing.
and then they acted like thet did not see me.
how do you miss a 2 ton truck?

you really can't miss a two ton, and normally in a small car you can hear it very well, even wit you music off, cuz they are so cheap. if you look in your mirror you really cant miss it.

I would rather know how to miss a cheap little car with 30,000 lbs.

If the Civic slammed on it's brakes, and you had to swerve, I would think you were following a little closely... Or was this in really bunched up traffic?

So has anyone seen that commercial for the Midas(?) shop, the one where the guy brings in his Yugo for a tuneup?

(yugo driver)"Wow, it's running great!"(looks over at tech in passenger sat) "Let's jump the bridge!"

(tech)"But we're in a Yugo!"

(guy tries to jump bridge that is out, dukes of hazard style, makes it 5 feet before dropping into creek)

(tech shrugs shoulders)"Yugo...)

focus. Both are FWD, both are commuter cars, both are reliable

WHoa !!! HAHAHAHAH .. Fuckus reliable ? There are more pages of recalls on the focus than I can shake a stick at.. ! ... sad but true ...

but we are talking about an 'SL' model with DOHC 5 spd and 222 plus hp and over 205 torque with minor mods, I have walked many v6 cameros and mustang's stock

ROFL ! uh... My Tacoma 4x4 has never lost to a V6 Mustang / Camaro either.. some were mod'd. both at the Track and Street.. have videos too... I just wouldn't get too carried away about how amazing that 'SL' is... you slap a turbo on it, and I'm all over it being badass... know what I mean !?

Anything ford
because they are slow and very very
unreliable

Yea.. pretty much ! especially the reliability part ....

Slow and unreliable? Where do these come from? My mustang's fine at 35k miles, not a single prob to date...hopefully, luck will continue. And mine's fast, so...Maybe we shouldn't count mine, though, since it has too much invested.

.... ROFL ! 35k ? Is that a joke ? :apuke: ..... you need at least 150k before you can say anything about reliability... check the Consumer reviews, watch what you see on the side of the road.. talk to mechanics.. read the reviews... Ford is NOT know for being reliable or even close to it... ehhh

I'm not gonna tell you Toyota, or Honda or whatever, is perfectly reliablie or whatever... but there is a difference... hopefully you never have trouble w/ your Stang.. but judging by the numbers... it could happen...

.... As far as cars I hate:

- V6 Mustang / Camaro
- Most Fords, but not all
- Asstek
- VW BUG
- n/a Eclipse
- n/a Supra
- n/a anything that was offered Turbo'd
- Riced Econo Cars....

Thats all I can think of now...


I am probably an asshole..... heh

yeah, traffic was pea soup. anyway that was a long time ago. and "lifeiscars" i would like to chake your hand. LOL:D , so here's my "cars i hate" anything honda. especially civics with altezzas and rims, and nothing more.

Love how generally STUPID the anti-whatever posts are.

I can tell how many clueless kids and inbred retards are posting, including the moron who started this thread.

So tell, me, does it physically hurt to have your mind closed that tightly? It should. I've never understood why people actually LIKE to be closed minded and hateful.

Go ahead. Insult me with your childish retorts if it makes you feel better. Try to ignore the meaning of my words, so you don't have to actually think.

Hyundais, all.
Kias, all.
Protons, all.
Ford, Focus, Ka & the new Mustang (Older ones were the bomb)
Holden, all but VL Calais, VS SS & Brock Editions of all Commodores & LH, LX, SLR model Toranas, all the rest are :apuke:
Chevy, Not many at all. I love Camaros and Silverados! Especially Impalas!
Ferrari, hate the Enzo, ugly heap of expensive crap.
Any rice deserves to get burnt!

I think thats all, oh yeah Pontiac Aztek.

Originally posted by Lowryda

Ferrari, hate the Enzo, ugly heap of expensive crap.

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:eek::eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT YOUNG MAN!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I hate hyundais excels...............the ones with stupid wings and stickers and empty milo tins for muffler tips,they suck and the drivers are freeken loonies.I really hate the one i have to drive but whats worse is sometimes i win some races if i were the people that just got iced by a 1.5 scoupe i would go home and shoot myself.:)

i hate


-hyunday's of all sorts. there cars r rubbish

-shitsubishi lancers

-toyota echo's

-those lil jap vans that r smaller than rx-7's. rx-7's r wicked tho :)


ta hell with these shitboxes! :flipa:

oh and i hate non turbo silvyas why would any body want to have four banger without a turbo in a car as big as folden bomberdore........:bloated:

Originally posted by GeneralTJI
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focus. Both are FWD, both are commuter cars, both are reliable
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WHoa !!! HAHAHAHAH .. Fuckus reliable ? There are more pages of recalls on the focus than I can shake a stick at.. ! ... sad but true ...

Recalls don't equate with reliability. Get this, one of the recalls was for a bad A-pillar trim clip! Another was for a Sony subwoofer defect! ALL the recalls were for the first 2 year models, with one being for the SVT Focus (that ONLY affected the first 500 cars, and was fixed before most of them had even been bought!). Recalls mean that the manufacturer found something that MIGHT be a problem and is fixing it. For free. In the old days, these problems might simply be engineered differently in the next revision of the car, and those with older versions had to either suffer or get a newer version. (or pay to update to the newer version, kind of like the chain tensioner and head stud upgrades in Porsche 911s). Many manufacturers simply refuse to admit their cars have problems and either fix them quietly if one comes in for regular service, or ignores it completely. Nissan and Honda are examples of the fpormer, while Mitsubishi and VW are examples of the latter.

I'd rather see a manufactuer that FIXES potential problems that have been identified, rather than ignore REAL poroblems that exist in actual customer cars!!!!

I'm really tired of this ignorant carping about recalls by people that simply have no clue!




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Anything ford
because they are slow and very very
unreliable
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Yea.. pretty much ! especially the reliability part ....


Complete BS. If you believe that, I have some lovely waterfront property to sell you in Florida... I've bought a few new Fords. Completely reliable. In fact, they only saw the inside of a service bay on regularly scheduled maintenance intervals.



.... ROFL ! 35k ? Is that a joke ? :apuke: ..... you need at least 150k before you can say anything about reliability... check the Consumer reviews, watch what you see on the side of the road.. talk to mechanics.. read the reviews... Ford is NOT know for being reliable or even close to it... ehhh

Actually, you're quite wrong there. Major indicatoors of quality and reliability show Ford being pretty high (higher than VW, Audi , Subaru, and on par with Toyota. You can look it up).

And MOST people judge reliability on the under 50k mark, as most people trade every three-4 years. After that, how you maintain and drive a car has more to do with it's reliability than manufacturer. But all cars can break, regardless of where they come from. If cars didn't break, then how come auto service is such a HUGE business? And why are there shops dedicated to imports and even specific brands? Please, open your eyes.



I'm not gonna tell you Toyota, or Honda or whatever, is perfectly reliablie or whatever... but there is a difference... hopefully you never have trouble w/ your Stang.. but judging by the numbers... it could happen...

Judging by the fact that there are Honda and Toyota repair specialist shops in large numnbers, I'd say "judging by the numbers, it could happen" applies equally to YOU.



.... As far as cars I hate:

- V6 Mustang / Camaro
- Most Fords, but not all
- Asstek
- VW BUG
- n/a Eclipse
- n/a Supra
- n/a anything that was offered Turbo'd
- Riced Econo Cars....

Thats all I can think of now...


I am probably an asshole..... heh

Sometimes I wonder why being a closed minded asshole is such a desireable goal for some of you.

i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!!

Originally posted by grandprix92
i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!!

What a crock of shit- so you hate any car not from the United States, Ferrar or Lamborghini???? Why???

Originally posted by grandprix92
i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!!

You're kind of a dumbass, aren't you? I guess you don't like reliability.

this is such a lame thread.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Pick


You're kind of a dumbass, aren't you? I guess you don't like reliability.

first off, i believe in my american cars. besides, when it comes to all out muscle, america ownes you foo! and as far as a dumbass, im not one. first off, who here really knows the origonal color of the Viper? how about the Corvette? ad as far as reliability, america has economy cars too. it's just most of us are smart enough not to put an annoying exaust systems on a car our mom's used to drive us to school in and call it performance.

Originally posted by grandprix92


first off, i believe in my american cars. besides, when it comes to all out muscle, america ownes you foo! and as far as a dumbass, im not one. first off, who here really knows the origonal color of the Viper? how about the Corvette? ad as far as reliability, america has economy cars too. it's just most of us are smart enough not to put an annoying exaust systems on a car our mom's used to drive us to school in and call it performance.

The original Viper color was red. And the original Corvette color was white, I believe. As far as muscle, I think that Japan ,while it does have virtually no high output V-8's, has some badass 6 cylinders(Supra, Skyline GTR,etc). I love domestics. I have nothing against them, but I hev found that imports are generally cheaper and more reliable for a price.

ok. you know your stuff. just wanted to test that. and i dont dispise imports. i dont like them because they rival ours after all these aftermarket tune-ups and shit. id rather buy from K&N and Borla. both for intake and exaust. and i agree about the badass 6 cylinders. but i hope you see my point about highoutput V-8s. america is king at those.

Originally posted by grandprix92
ok. you know your stuff. just wanted to test that. and i dont dispise imports. i dont like them because they rival ours after all these aftermarket tune-ups and shit. id rather buy from K&N and Borla. both for intake and exaust. and i agree about the badass 6 cylinders. but i hope you see my point about highoutput V-8s. america is king at those.

Agreed. Nothing like a 427 wide open throttle with Edelbrock headers and carb.

hell ya! not to mention that new 572 big block V-8 Chevy just came out with. its a crate engine though. little harder to build! after i find a car that can hold one, im buyin it!!!! cant wait. the real bad part, they cost about 7K.

hey i like cars all cars dosent matter if its fast and not a pos its cool in my book but donk get me wrong i were my chevy bow tie proud the blue oval guys should hang there head to low either america has been putting out cars since the late 60s that still dominate at the track that has to speak for its self every one talk about is ill turbo my import and it will beat u but what happend if i put a turbo on my ride who will win then

i was watching speed vision guy got a 2001 vett i belive (not a Zo6) and dropped a twin turbo in it and that car was f ing fast

if u want 1/4 mile racing u go old school and u wont have a lot to fear

around a track even though the viper and zo6 are strong there just not up to meclerian f1 standards or alot of other imports

all about 575 zz big block crate drop a super charger on that put it in a 72 vega powerful auto trany bad ass rear end o yea a wheely bar and go out to the track and eat those turbo suns of bitchs up all day long

big bloc power

Originally posted by fatboys57
hey i like cars all cars dosent matter if its fast and not a pos its cool in my book but donk get me wrong i were my chevy bow tie proud the blue oval guys should hang there head to low either america has been putting out cars since the late 60s that still dominate at the track that has to speak for its self every one talk about is ill turbo my import and it will beat u but what happend if i put a turbo on my ride who will win then

i was watching speed vision guy got a 2001 vett i belive (not a Zo6) and dropped a twin turbo in it and that car was f ing fast

if u want 1/4 mile racing u go old school and u wont have a lot to fear

around a track even though the viper and zo6 are strong there just not up to meclerian f1 standards or alot of other imports

all about 575 zz big block crate drop a super charger on that put it in a 72 vega powerful auto trany bad ass rear end o yea a wheely bar and go out to the track and eat those turbo suns of bitchs up all day long

big bloc power


That didn't make a lick of sense- and you seem the typical "Domestic" owner who thinks "Imports" are all the same cars- wrong- "Imports" vary greatly- there are billions of different types............

Originally posted by Jimster
"Imports" vary greatly- there are billions of different types............

I hate it when every post has an exaggeration. :bloated: :finger:

Originally posted by YogsVR4


I hate it when every post has an exaggeration. :bloated: :finger:

The dumber part is that no one can define "import" any more, as half the "domestics" are manufactured in Canada and Mexico, whereas a lot of Honda, Nissan, and Toyota's stuff is designed and manufactured HERE. :rolleyes: