For some of you. . .

That like my 03 Cobra. I went to the dyno today and got three pulls. My peak hp was 408.86 and tq was 385. Here is my dyno sheet:


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/defiancy3/th_scan0001.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/defiancy3/scan0001.jpg)


Also here is a video of my dyno.


http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=4D96AA6F-9CD2-43FA-8390-4220F1E46D22


I was going to dyno my eclipse but they didn't have a setup for FWD cars so I didn't and the fact that I should have it sold by monday I didn't want to spend the money on it. But no worries! I am currently looking for a 1g gsx and I will find one eventually. So I'm not leaving the dsm world by any means.

For those of you who don't like Cobra's, well your missing out on a great car ;)

Man you are getting me so pyched up for my mustang gt, I know its not a cobra, but it will still pull better than my N/T....

Defiancy, post up some pics of your cobra!

i agree lets see some pics!

Man you are getting me so pyched up for my mustang gt, I know its not a cobra, but it will still pull better than my N/T....

Defiancy, post up some pics of your cobra!


What year GT are you getting?


I will post up some pics first thing tomorrow. The ones I have are old and the appearence has changed just a bit.

:22yikes: Very nice man.

so did you ttry a battery or starter? shoudnt we start a new thread of pix of the cobra...

What year GT are you getting?


I will post up some pics first thing tomorrow. The ones I have are old and the appearence has changed just a bit.

Im looking for the 1999-2004 body style...This is what I want my mustang to look like. Ok, white GT with black tints lowered about 1.5, 2", and then the anthracite Deep Dish bullit rims...(you shoul know what those are defiancy)

Here is a link to those rims...check out second pic!

http://mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/select3639.htm

Im looking for the 1999-2004 body style...This is what I want my mustang to look like. Ok, white GT with black tints lowered about 1.5, 2", and then the anthracite Deep Dish bullit rims...(you shoul know what those are defiancy)

Here is a link to those rims...check out second pic!

http://mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/select3639.htm


Your first two mods should be full exhaust, and 4.10 gears. Then that GT will fly.

Your first two mods should be full exhaust, and 4.10 gears. Then that GT will fly.

Ohh I know, rims are the last thing I will get, but whats this 4.10 gear...im a newbie with gears and whatnot!

while i was geting my cat back put on they had a cobra on hte other lift put a x pipe and some kinda new mufflers that just came out with 3" pipeing all the way it was bad as shit

Over 400 hp stock. You bastard. ;) Congrats man, have fun with that.

Ohh I know, rims are the last thing I will get, but what this 4.10 gear...im a newbie with gears and whatnot!


Welcome to the world of RWD vehicles.
I'm not to keen on the technical aspect of gears but the best way I can explain it is like this. The stock gear on a mustang is a 3.25, now the higher you go the faster your car accelerates. Now this is great but there is a downside. The higher the gear ratio you have the less top end you have. Like if you put 4.30's on your car you probably won't be able to do over 120 mph and at 80 mph you will be sitting at 4k rpms. But you will get up to that 120 very very quickly. 4.10s are the perfect gears for those GT's, they allow you to accelerate very quickly and still allow you to have plenty of top end. About 150mph top speed.

Gears are part of your rear axel. You can look it up for a better explanation.

Over 400 hp stock. You bastard. ;) Congrats man, have fun with that.


Welll not stock, but I just have intake and exhaust. ;)

Welcome to the world of RWD vehicles.
I'm not to keen on the technical aspect of gears but the best way I can explain it is like this. The stock gear on a mustang is a 3.25, now the higher you go the faster your car accelerates. Now this is great but there is a downside. The higher the gear ratio you have the less top end you have. Like if you put 4.30's on your car you probably won't be able to do over 120 mph and at 80 mph you will be sitting at 4k rpms. But you will get up to that 120 very very quickly. 4.10s are the perfect gears for those GT's, they allow you to accelerate very quickly and still allow you to have plenty of top end. About 150mph top speed.

Gears are part of your rear axel. You can look it up for a better explanation.

Yea, ok, I remember know, lol when I used to play Need for Speed and play around with those settings. So the 4.10 gears sound good, I will not need to go 150mph so better acceleration, hmmmmmmmmm....thanks defiancy!

Yea, ok, I remember know, lol when I used to play Need for Speed and play around with those settings. So the 4.10 gears sound good, I will not need to go 150mph so better acceleration, hmmmmmmmmm....thanks defiancy!


Gears are an awesome upgrade for off the line improvements.

Dont fear the gear.

Cobras (esp your year) are such beautiful machines. I've been searching for my next car and it's been a toss up between a T/A and a GT. The funny thing is that I've always thought of the DSM as my "speed car" and the T/A or GT as my DD if I were to get one. I guess I'm hooked. :)

Whats a T/A?

I too have been pondering getting a really nice car, but with college I dont think I will be able to afford it. There was an Audi TT a couple hours away from here for $14 grand, I almost jumped on that shit. Also, I have seen RX8's, EVO's, and S2000's below $20 grand, and I was eyeing up a 95 M3 that was like $8 grand. I dont see whats so cool about tne new M3's I like the older ones better. I think I will stick to the Cavy for a while though ;).

Whats a T/A?

I too have been pondering getting a really nice car, but with college I dont think I will be able to afford it. There was an Audi TT a couple hours away from here for $14 grand, I almost jumped on that shit. Also, I have seen RX8's, EVO's, and S2000's below $20 grand, and I was eyeing up a 95 M3 that was like $8 grand. I dont see whats so cool about tne new M3's I like the older ones better. I think I will stick to the Cavy for a while though ;).

T/A I believe is transam.

As for the new M3's please Thor lets not go there...I could tell you why and how they are so damn good, but this write up would be 2 pages...as for this $8G m3 (the 1995), is it still for sale, thats not bad at all!

Lower gears can actually hurt E.T.s sometimes, experiment with the car don't just say "I am going to run 4.10s no matter what". I personally would never go higher than 3.73 on the street, but to each his own. 3.23s pull like a mule in a LT1/LS1, but since you are talking about a GT you will need all the help you can get. J/K Whatever floats your boat.

Lower gears can actually hurt E.T.s sometimes, experiment with the car don't just say "I am going to run 4.10s no matter what". I personally would never go higher than 3.73 on the street, but to each his own. 3.23s pull like a mule in a LT1/LS1, but since you are talking about a GT you will need all the help you can get. J/K Whatever floats your boat.


On a 99-04 GT 4.10 gears are the best option, tried and tested.

I have ridden with many guys that have 4.10's in their GT's and they pull almost as hard through 1-3 as my cobra does. Off course my cobra always blows them away, but it gives them that illusion! ;)

Tried and tested on the track?, and by who? I am talking about ET not "feels like it pulls" thanks for proving my point. No two cars run the same, what is best for one may not be best for another, even if they are same model and year. Even in stock vehicles there may be as much as 20 horsepower difference. I would also prefer not to discuss muffstanks ( :puke:) in this forum since it is the DSM forum. You seem like an OK guy, and I don't want a flame war but that is how I feel about your car.

Tried and tested on the track?, and by who? I am talking about ET not "feels like it pulls" thanks for proving my point. No two cars run the same, what is best for one may not be best for another, even if they are same model and year. Even in stock vehicles there may be as much as 20 horsepower difference. I would also prefer not to discuss muffstanks ( :puke:) in this forum since it is the DSM forum. You seem like an OK guy, and I don't want a flame war but that is how I feel about your car.



Dude. Where is the hostility from? If you don't like my car there is no reason to talk negative about it. 2. I'm part of a mustang club here where I live. And I would say 99% of the people in the club with GT's of tose years have 4.10's on their car and put down much better numbers than other gears. And yes on the track. If you don't agree with me fine, but don't make assumptions like I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Also unless you own a "muffstank" than don't try and be a resident authority on it.

Now unless you have something positive to add to this thread there isn't any reason for you to post anything else.

Also last time I checked this was the O/T thread area. Which means I can talk about things other than DSM's.

Tried and tested on the track?, and by who? I am talking about ET not "feels like it pulls" thanks for proving my point. No two cars run the same, what is best for one may not be best for another, even if they are same model and year. Even in stock vehicles there may be as much as 20 horsepower difference. I would also prefer not to discuss muffstanks ( :puke:) in this forum since it is the DSM forum. You seem like an OK guy, and I don't want a flame war but that is how I feel about your car.

You need to chill out man, your like those, what people call "asshole domestic" drivers, except your in the import scene...Why does is bother you so much if we are discussing the mustang or cruststang or what ever BS name you want to call it. Stay out of this thread if your just going to complain.

On a 99-04 GT 4.10 gears are the best option, tried and tested.

I have ridden with many guys that have 4.10's in their GT's and they pull almost as hard through 1-3 as my cobra does. Off course my cobra always blows them away, but it gives them that illusion! ;)
Defiancy,
There was no hostility. I am still not mad. I am sorry for insulting your car. It was a discussion about modifications. I interjected my opinion same as you. I didn't say you didn't know what you were talking about anymore than you didn't just do the same to me in the post above. I was just trying to get the guy to understand everything he reads on the internet may not apply to his car (even if he calls me an asshole).

Absolute,
I was trying to give you another perspective, thanks for calling me names. I am brand new to the "import scene". I am an F-body guy! You don't see me promoting them though. I didn't call anyone names or curse them, and I can post in any thread I like as long as the mods let me.

Defiancy,
There was no hostility. I am still not mad. I am sorry for insulting your car. It was a discussion about modifications. I interjected my opinion same as you. I didn't say you didn't know what you were talking about anymore than you didn't just do the same to me in the post above. I was just trying to get the guy to understand everything he reads on the internet may not apply to his car (even if he calls me an asshole).

Absolute,
I was trying to give you another perspective, thanks for calling me names. I am brand new to the "import scene". I am an F-body guy! You don't see me promoting them though. I didn't call anyone names or curse them, and I can post in any thread I like as long as the mods let me.

It may have been a discussion about modifications, but calling my car a muffstank is not really polite nor part of a discussion about modifications. But still kinda funny ;) No hard feelings. And you do hold an intense hostility towards mustangs for being a fox body guy.

On another note!

Here are some pictures that some of you requested.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/defiancy3/cobra1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/defiancy3/cobra3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/defiancy3/cobra2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/defiancy3/cobra4.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/defiancy3/engine.jpg

Absolute,
I was trying to give you another perspective, thanks for calling me names. I am brand new to the "import scene". I am an F-body guy! You don't see me promoting them though. I didn't call anyone names or curse them, and I can post in any thread I like as long as the mods let me.

First off I didnt call you an asshole, I was relating you to the domestic drivers which are supposedly the assholes...but if you didnt mean anything towards defiancy than I am sorry as well, its just that since I pretty much started this thread (about the gear issue) I felt like I had to interject.

Here is a link to those rims...check out second pic!

http://mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/select3639.htm


Even though I hate Mustangs with a passion, that charcoal colored one didn't look too bad. It's the first one I have seen with staggered wheels. Its a good look for them

About time defiancy, lol, how big are you rims and how wide?

Vanilla Gorilla,
Those rims are sexy arent they, That charcoal color is also very nice on a mustang!

About time defiancy, lol, how big are you rims and how wide?

Vanilla Gorilla,
Those rims are sexy arent they, That charcoal color is also very nice on a mustang!


They are 18x9 275 and 18x10 295 in the back. I want to go with some 355 Nittos rag radials in the back eventually though for track use.

a buddy of mine has a pulley, intake, exhaust

he put down 500/500

03/04 cobras are amazing vehicles..

a buddy of mine has a pulley, intake, exhaust

he put down 500/500

03/04 cobras are amazing vehicles..


Yaa, I'm waiting til I get my s/c ported before I change the pulley and get a tune. I should put over 500 down after that.


Amazing and so cheap to mod. For about 2k you can have a 550+ hp cobra.

I hope to get an 03 cobra once I graduate med school, it will be KB'd tho ;)

I hope to get an 03 cobra once I graduate med school, it will be KB'd tho ;)


bah med school?

go twin turbo ;)

734 hp on pump gas

i didnt know the main page to the forum was off topic???i dont mind you posting a thread like this its a nice car but on the other hand i have never seen someone post about a car other than a dsm without getting flamed even by mods,and jesus 4.10 gears hahaha how much faster is that 0-60? and im really wondering not being a smart ass.that thing is a beast nice car man!!!

the pictures bring the truth is really is a beast!!!!

i didnt know the main page to the forum was off topic???i dont mind you posting a thread like this its a nice car but on the other hand i have never seen someone post about a car other than a dsm without getting flamed even by mods,and jesus 4.10 gears hahaha how much faster is that 0-60? and im really wondering not being a smart ass.that thing is a beast nice car man!!!


Yep the main page is off topic. Or unspecific dsm questions that you can't place in one of the sub-forums. Well I think it would be different if I came from the mustang forum and started talking about how great my cobra is and not even own a dsm. I own a dsm and 99% of my posts are dsm relative. And even still in the off topic thread there isn't any reason why I can't talk about my other car.

Well my car does 0-60 in about 4.8-4.9secs something like that. It would probably make it about a 5.2sec 0-60. It would be pretty close but once we got over 60 he would die off and I would pull on him ridiculously. Gears just take from the top end and add to the bottom end really. Like I explained early you can't go as fast, but you get there a whole lot quicker.

4.8 thats pretty fast man,and like i said i have no prob with this thread shit i got to see your car which is pretty nice i was just sayin that back in the day on here the mods would of got pissed but like i said its cool,so how much does a cobra like that cost you.

gota be a pritty pennie

And you do hold an intense hostility towards mustangs for being a fox body guy.



True, I try to hold it in check but am not always successful.

I have worked on many many mustangs, and I still disagree about the gears, that would make the power band so narrow that your time would surely suffer in a near stock GT. I suppose it would also depend on what the diameter of the wheels are. On top of that who would want to drive any distance with the engine screaming constantly. Oh well your car do what you want.

No hard feelings, just a friendly disagreement.

4.8 thats pretty fast man,and like i said i have no prob with this thread shit i got to see your car which is pretty nice i was just sayin that back in the day on here the mods would of got pissed but like i said its cool,so how much does a cobra like that cost you.


Brand new? A vert was about 39k. A coupe about 34-35k. Now? I bought my car for 30k out the door with tax tags and title.

But you can find an 03 Cobra coupe with 40-50k miles on it for 22-25k.

Cheaper than an evo, and ohh so much faster.

Arent F-bodies from Camaros and fox bodies from the early 90's mustangs?

God DAMN loeman you look familiar... kinda wierd actually.

Arent F-bodies from Camaros and fox bodies from the early 90's mustangs?

God DAMN loeman you look familiar... kinda wierd actually.


Nooo idea.

I know fox body mustangs. Ususally if some one says f-body I associate it with that. But maaaybe that explains things. So what the hell is an f body camaro?

The mustang had a fox chassis from 64 1/2 through present. I am not sure about the latest style, I haven't researched them yet (know your enemy). Camaros and Firebird/TA are refered to as F bodies.

I can't help the way I look, I was born with that face. :D

Thor,
I was in the Navy for a while, and have been stationed all over the damn place. Maybe you saw me somewhere. lol How old are you?

The mustang had a fox chassis from 64 1/2 through present. I am not sure about the latest style, I haven't researched them yet (know your enemy). Camaros and Firebird/TA are refered to as F bodies.

I can't help the way I look, I was born with that face. :D


Usually when someone reffers to a fox body they mean like the body style of a 92 lx and like years. As far as I know of from 94-98 the bodies are SN95 and from 99-04 is like SN97 or some shit like that.

Also why do you hate mustangs so much?

Nothing personal toward you.IDK, I used to like them, but then I bought my first formula. Then all my old buddies with mustangs said crap like " all that money you spent, you could have bought a real car". Then they would still ask me to change head gaskets, put in clutches, do rebuilds, and crap for them. They talked about how fast and invincible their cars were, even after I demolished them. It was downhill with mustangs after that. Every track I've been to from LA county raceway to Centerville AR, is the same. Mustang owners in groups talking down on everyone that doesn't own one. Not even the corvette guys are as bad. So I suppose that I stereo-typed you because you are always bringing up that cobra. Sorry, I just didn't want to come to the DSM forum and have mustangs popping up all the time. It may not make sense to you, but I can't pin down exactly why I hate the car. I will restrain myself next time you post up pics and stuff of that car.

Yeah, I think the Fox chassis ended in 93 with the old body style. Every car has a designation for the chassis, like G-body, A-body, etc.

IMO, you are either an f body guy or a mustang guy, very few are both. I am more of an f body guy but I love cobras and any shelby. They did a cobra build up on horepower tv a while back and with an exhaust pulley tune and IIRC cams? they made like 580whp or something like that. Bad ass car man

Nothing personal toward you.IDK, I used to like them, but then I bought my first formula. Then all my old buddies with mustangs said crap like " all that money you spent, you could have bought a real car". Then they would still ask me to change head gaskets, put in clutches, do rebuilds, and crap for them. They talked about how fast and invincible their cars were, even after I demolished them. It was downhill with mustangs after that. Every track I've been to from LA county raceway to Centerville AR, is the same. Mustang owners in groups talking down on everyone that doesn't own one. Not even the corvette guys are as bad. So I suppose that I stereo-typed you because you are always bringing up that cobra. Sorry, I just didn't want to come to the DSM forum and have mustangs popping up all the time. It may not make sense to you, but I can't pin down exactly why I hate the car. I will restrain myself next time you post up pics and stuff of that car.

Yeah, I think the Fox chassis ended in 93 with the old body style. Every car has a designation for the chassis, like G-body, A-body, etc.



I understand where you are coming from. But I don't really talk about my cobra that much. This may be the second thread ever that I talked about it. The first being when I actually got the car. A lot of people like it, and I know you may think of a lot of mustang owners as cocky, but around here they aren't so bad. Just us cobra guys ;) But then again we have something to back it up. I don't think I have the fasted car in the world, but I know my car is fast. But the way you describe the mustang seems seems reminiscent of alot of the import scene this crowd not included. When I drive my GS-T no one bothers me I just drive along. Now when I am in the cobra I can't get the imports to stop bother me, because they want to prove to me or themselves that they have a fast car. I think you'll find that with any group of people with like cars that have performance capabilites it's going to be the same. Especially when it's chevy and ford getting together. Or American muscle and imports. I love both worlds. I can't just be a ford guy or I can't just be a dsm guy. I love both vehicles for different reasons.

Most people have to really ride in an 03/04 cobra to appreciate them. I would never own another mustang other than an 03/04 cobra. And if you ever get down to Cali I'll be glad to let you drive mine as if anyone on this forum gets down here I'll let you drive it.

This includes your esco ass Sphyder. Let you see what a real car feels like ;)

Just playing.

Dang, this thread blew up since i last posted. From what ive heard with gears (for any car) you want to be in higher RPMs when your approaching/crossing the traps. For every car this will obviously be a different ratio.

I love the cobra man, if i ever got a "stang" it would be an SVT hands down. Maybe when i have a midlife crisis, heh, til then ill upgrade my hemi.

And if you ever get down to Cali I'll be glad to let you drive mine as if anyone on this forum gets down here I'll let you drive it.

This includes your esco ass Sphyder. Let you see what a real car feels like ;)




:iceslolan Sure thing, I gotta see what all the fuss is about. 400 hp stock...that's pretty damn impressive. I'll probably be a lot less cocky pulling up to stangs on the freeway now. Just have to make sure it aint a Cobra before I decide to spank it. :p



I love both worlds. I can't just be a ford guy or I can't just be a dsm guy. I love both vehicles for different reasons.

I like the way you think. That pretty much sums up a lot. One doesnt need to be so polarized, that the other end of the spectrum disappears from view entirely. What's wrong with enjoying the best of both worlds? Absolutely nothing. :2cents:

I understand where you are coming from. But I don't really talk about my cobra that much. This may be the second thread ever that I talked about it. And if you ever get down to Cali I'll be glad to let you drive mine as if anyone on this forum gets down here I'll let you drive it.

This includes your esco ass Sphyder. Let you see what a real car feels like ;)

Just playing.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=507563
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=507324
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=503047
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=502210
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=500431
:rofl: Here are some of the threads where cobra was mentioned. That's why I finally blew up about it. There are more than this.

You seem like a decent guy, so I, if I ever get back to Cali, I will look you up ( I still won't drive a stang. lol).
And if you get over to AR, maybe you can drive the shop car (thunderbird w/399ci 803hp). Then we will talk about what fast really is. ;)

I'll take any car as long as it's fast, and i can work on it. So that leaves out most euros, but i'll take just about anything.

Dang, this thread blew up since i last posted. From what ive heard with gears (for any car) you want to be in higher RPMs when your approaching/crossing the traps. For every car this will obviously be a different ratio.

That was the point I was trying to make. It depends on the motor and where the best power is for that particular motor. In a larger motor, it may not be at the highest rpm. In a smaller motor it might. You would have to go to the dyno to know for certain where you are making the most power, or do a lot of test and tune while swapping gear sets. There is no "one" formula for every car. Also there are variations in parts that are mass produced, so you may buy the same part from two different companies and run two different times with them. Cams are a really good example of this.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=507563
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=507324
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=503047
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=502210
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=500431
:rofl: Here are some of the threads where cobra was mentioned. That's why I finally blew up about it. There are more than this.

You seem like a decent guy, so I, if I ever get back to Cali, I will look you up ( I still won't drive a stang. lol).
And if you get over to AR, maybe you can drive the shop car (thunderbird w/399ci 803hp). Then we will talk about what fast really is. ;)

Never in 1 post in ANY of those threads was he trying to say that his cobra was so much better then anything. He was just stating factabout his car just like the rest of us do.

Is this going to get out of hand now? I sure hope not.

No this is not anywhere near out of hand. We are all stateing out opinions, Is that illegal now?

No this is not anywhere near out of hand. We are all stateing out opinions, Is that illegal now?
Nope, not out of hand. I am not attacking him . I don't have a problem with him. I still think this is all pretty funny. I was just pointing out that he brought up his cobra alot. There is NO problem. I repeat NO problem. I think some of you are misunderstanding the tone of this conversation. I have not insulted anyone (just their car, and I appologised for that), or called any names. I was just talking about cars. This is a car forum, and we will not always agree with everything everyone says, and I should be able to express an opinion without being jumped on by everyone except the guy I was talking to.

we also have a missunderstanding then i was not jumping on u about it. i was just makeing a statement as u where look at David-B he was a wenter car serch his posts it has come up alot also. the only reason(and no im not jumping on u or anyone or even critizizing you) u jumped on him is the simple fact that it was a mustang.

I have no quarrel with anyone. Most of the time I mention my cobra it's in good fun, like a jest. A joking manner. This is only the second thread that has been about the cobra. But this is a car forum and we are all adults right? I don't expect everyone to like my car. And if you don't that is fine by me.

The shop car is a thunderbird eh? Still a ford! +1

we also have a missunderstanding then i was not jumping on u about it. i was just makeing a statement as u where look at David-B he was a wenter car serch his posts it has come up alot also. the only reason(and no im not jumping on u or anyone or even critizizing you) u jumped on him is the simple fact that it was a mustang.
TOO TRUE!!!! That was not very Politically Correct of me was it? Descrimination even. Mustang biggot. :D I should be ashamed of myself :sorry: :rofl: