Scams on Ebay!

This is the second time that I got scammed from some guy in Hong Kong selling model kits. At the time that I paid for my kit, he only had few negative feedbacks. but, now, there are over 150 nasty comments for him and he's not a registered ebay member anymore. I paid with bidpay, and they wont do anything to get my money back.

I wont be buying anymore kits from Ebay, and you guys should be careful too.

So you bought a kit from someone who already hadn't sent you a kit you paid for? Don't get me wrong, scammers in general suck, but there's an old saying..."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." Hope they weren't expensive kits!

buy from people with like 100% positive feedback. i generally stay away from the Hong Kong sellers because 1. i don't trust them and 2. shipping is as much as the kit.

I have had this a few times, luckly I have always used Paypal, and they have always got the money back for me.

Dan.

I never had problems with ebay, you gotta look out for good feedback, also i intend on staying away from international auctions. I did however get two kits from japan, but had trouble with shipping (too Long) and too expensive. If your in doubt then don't bid! Sorry to hear that.

buy from people with like 100% positive feedback. i generally stay away from the Hong Kong sellers because 1. i don't trust them and 2. shipping is as much as the kit.


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Ive brought kits of a seller called Tom China in Hong Kong. Never had a problem, always well packed, and when you can pick up top kits for £7 + pastage it still works out cheaper for some kits from him then from a UK shop.

But he has great feedback. I've brought a few kits from the UK, and been well ripped.. Paid too much for a MP/14, and got a testarossa with the egnine started.. Seller said it was mint, never touched.. Photo was for a new kit, whereas the one I got was not.. Must have got the picutre from somewhere else, so I got fooled there..

I've bought loads from TOmchina never any problems. Only ever had 2 probs on eBay. 1, a 1/12 Testarossa from USA to UK, but no wheel or chrome. 2, a Tamiya VW New Beetle, MINT, without Glass, and some other parts, and half completed, but photo showed, complete unstarted model. You never can tell, its complete luck with eBay

i never had a problem with Sangpolly in HK but really was only saving like 2 or 3 dollars after shipping. didnt really see the point after awhile so i no longer use Ebay unless im researching. HLJ i would save about 7 to 8 dollars and get it before release in US but again, after while i decided i would rather wait and support local business (my LHS) and it paid off, they go out of there way to get me stuff now and i get OK price but only a few dollars under MSRP. i also order 5-10 kits at a time. Local business support means local economy which means more money for you. though i have to admit, my after market supply sucks, need rims and Satsuka detail parts bad :lol:

buy from people with like 100% positive feedback. i generally stay away from the Hong Kong sellers because 1. i don't trust them and 2. shipping is as much as the kit.


More important, buy from ebayer that have good feadback LATELY.

I also had bad experience once with a seller that had 99.7%, over 3000 good feedback. It had few bad the last week and then he had about 100 bad... He got banned after that.

So Rating don't mean anything, just look the feedback lately.

If You paid by Paypal, just do a charge-back.

If you didn't, well leason learned :lol:

So you bought a kit from someone who already hadn't sent you a kit you paid for? Don't get me wrong, scammers in general suck, but there's an old saying..."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." Hope they weren't expensive kits!

No! That would be stupid! It was a different person(ebay ID) but same situation. They'll do business for awhile with good feedbacks(+500), and at the end, they collect money and never send products. Both of them were from Hong Kong. I'm pretty sure this guy will do it again.

I've never had a problem with ebay... usually the feedback helps judge a lot about the person. All my kits were from US sellers, and one from japan.

I only big off people with 98% or better feedback, and I always read there feedback before I decide to bid on something, I rarely use EBAY, and only have 6 feedback points in 2 years. but i'm at 100%. i'm waiting till I get to 10+ feedback points before I start selling

I've gotten a few good deals on EBay, I never bid from anyone unless there in the U.S. My best deals where a Tamiya Toyota bB kit for $13, and a Tamiya Porsche 911 Carrara 4 kit for $17

I got scammed for $100 on a Peugeot 306 R/C car. He also used Bidpay but must be a different guy (Or username at least) because he had tons of good feedback and then 30 negatives in less than a month before he left.

The worst part is that I'll get like $30 back because Ebay doesn't cover shipping in their fraud settlement, and they take $25 out as a fee.

I'm still holding out hope I was one of the people who DID get their stuff shipped before whatever happened, happened.

I always check the price, as usually if the price is too good to be true, then it usually is. For instance I was watching 2 brand new Pocher models being sold as the one item, the block waited till the price was about £1000, then said that he had mislisted, and only had the one to sell. I saw the same block do the same thing a few weeks later, with a rare Rosso model. Feedback is not a good reference, as quite often they threaten you that if you leave them negative feedback then they will leave it for you, even if you have done nothing wrong.

I bought a Focus WRC Tamiya kit from one of these 'eastern sellers' and it arrived within a month. Quality! Then I ordered a Renault 5 Turbo Rally (Tamiya) and Audi Quattro Rally (Tamiya) and only the Renault turned up! That was about six months ago. It's so tempting because even with postage so high I still get these models half the price of the ones in my LHS (one in my home town now, woohoo!!) Now I'm thinking of just getting my kits from the LHS - buying from the east can be dodgy via ebay.

Only one bad experience, buying from america.
Kit turned up with no wheels.
I tried emailing the guy several times but no response then when I pushed it further he threatened me with neg feedback. Was like a red rag to a bull.
He has now left lying negative feedback on my account!

Still, it amuses me to send him abusive emails from time to time!

Still, it amuses me to send him abusive emails from time to time!


:lol2:

Hi guys!

I'm new here but I read this and I know this dude... His name on eBay was Nicedriftking right?

I bought him 2 180sx and I'm still waiting after a month... my Z-tune came in less than 15 days! :banghead:

One day, me and my friend (who ordering my cars) went to his feedback and it was all came red by the week!! And this ***** is no longer on eBay!!

I had a lot of projects on these cars! Projects that I cannot use on a Z-tune or a Skyline patrol car (traitor edition :evillol: )

I understand you...

What did you order?

Hi guys!

I'm new here but I read this and I know this dude... His name on eBay was Nicedriftking right?

I bought him 2 180sx and I'm still waiting after a month... my Z-tune came in less than 15 days! :banghead:

One day, me and my friend (who ordering my cars) went to his feedback and it was all came red by the week!! And this ***** is no longer on eBay!!

I had a lot of projects on these cars! Projects that I cannot use on a Z-tune or a Skyline patrol car (traitor edition :evillol: )

I understand you...

yes! that's the scumbag! I wish i could find him and ...

And when did you paid the item?

Did you saw that:

-They pay for flight sending and they came by boat;
-Peoples are waiting 2-3 months;
-They paid extras for a "solid-box" and don't have one;
-Models are crushed in boxes!!


He must have send mine! I live in Montreal, Canada... it's too long: SURE THEY ARE COMMING BY BOAT!!! (if they've been sent!)

:mad: :mad: :mad:

I bought my first kit of a seller called nicedraftking and the service was great! Fast shipping and low shipping costs. But now he seems to have stopped selling on ebay. On august 2nd i jus bought a ferrari 360 spider off a seller called lowbodel but i have still not recieved item. I hope to recieve in next day or two in time for my 16th birthday. I tend not to buy off sellers with more than 3 negatives per month just to be safe. I have had no problems with ebay scams as of yet, and i hope i dont. I also always use paypal just to be safe.


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There is a seller from Hong Kong on eBay that has been there for a long time...just under different names (well, new accounts really). I can't remember the first names he popped up under, but I ordered a Fujimi Lancer VII from him and the box was just wrapped in paper...and smashed, of course. E-mailed him, and he said he would send me a replacement body...he didn't, but at least the damage was reparable. He then got a metric butt ton of neg feedback and disappeared. Came back as someone else. Someone on here had posted that it was the same schmuck and to not to order from him. Then he changed his name to heiheihei999, same pattern. Now, I think, the Nicedriftking is him again. Same pattern, packing and shipping practices.

These Hong Kong sellers put up so much stuff, give them some time to get feedback before bidding on their stuff. If they last six months or so and still have a reasonbly good feedback rating, then bid on their stuff. The thing that's starting to get to me is that they seem to be selling their stuff for Pounds Sterling. I knwo the used to be a British commonwealth, but come on...used to be. The sellers from China are doing it now and hell, I even spotted a guy from Italy pulling the same crap! They used to always put the auction in American dollars. Now, what was 12 dollars is now 12 pounds, looks like the same low price, but it's really doubled up now (for us Americans anyway) with the low shipping price of 9 pounds. It's like they are trying to lure in the American kids (or some adults) who don't know better and get thier money for something they thought they were getting for a cheap bargain. When I first started ordering models on eBay back in '99, Hong Kong was the place to go, then the various Japanese hobby shops would be next. Now I just order from HLJ or Hobby Search. Though I am ordering from more American shops now, since for some reason they are getting the new kits much faster now than they used to. But for Fujimi kits, I'm still ordering them overseas...I'll be dammed if I'm gonna pay better than Tamiya prices for Fujimi models (Fujimi Lancer VI is $39.99 in my LHS....comes with a free layer of dust).

Wow...that was long...

/rant


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There is a seller from Hong Kong on eBay that has been there for a long time...just under different names (well, new accounts really). I can't remember the first names he popped up under, but I ordered a Fujimi Lancer VII from him and the box was just wrapped in paper...and smashed, of course. E-mailed him, and he said he would send me a replacement body...he didn't, but at least the damage was reparable. He then got a metric butt ton of neg feedback and disappeared. Came back as someone else. Someone on here had posted that it was the same schmuck and to not to order from him. Then he changed his name to heiheihei999, same pattern. Now, I think, the Nicedriftking is him again. Same pattern, packing and shipping practices.

These Hong Kong sellers put up so much stuff, give them some time to get feedback before bidding on their stuff. If they last six months or so and still have a reasonbly good feedback rating, then bid on their stuff. The thing that's starting to get to me is that they seem to be selling their stuff for Pounds Sterling. I knwo the used to be a British commonwealth, but come on...used to be. The sellers from China are doing it now and hell, I even spotted a guy from Italy pulling the same crap! They used to always put the auction in American dollars. Now, what was 12 dollars is now 12 pounds, looks like the same low price, but it's really doubled up now (for us Americans anyway) with the low shipping price of 9 pounds. It's like they are trying to lure in the American kids (or some adults) who don't know better and get thier money for something they thought they were getting for a cheap bargain. When I first started ordering models on eBay back in '99, Hong Kong was the place to go, then the various Japanese hobby shops would be next. Now I just order from HLJ or Hobby Search. Though I am ordering from more American shops now, since for some reason they are getting the new kits much faster now than they used to. But for Fujimi kits, I'm still ordering them overseas...I'll be dammed if I'm gonna pay better than Tamiya prices for Fujimi models (Fujimi Lancer VI is $39.99 in my LHS....comes with a free layer of dust).

Wow...that was long...

/rant


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i won 10 cars from heiheihei999,i think it is a year ago.
and got none of them :angryfire
he said he had sent them,but i never got them,sent a email to paypal and ebay,they closed his ebay and paypal acount.
now i buy only from hlj,and from sellers in usa/england

The only problems I have had with Ebay sellers seem to be US Sellers, send the wrong items, items never getting here, etc. Don't think USPS etc know of the UK ;)
Never had a problem with Asia sellers.
I have 318 (100%) positive feedbacks and hope to keep it that way.

I brought two kits from nicedriftking, and I got them both, but the boxes were in a right state. Thankfully the contents were OK. I left bad feedback for that.

I'm currently sending abusive emails to a UK seller who has just done me wrong, sold me a tamiya kit, said it was new and complete, has been started. Hasn't answered one email yet..!! Bad feedback about to be left..

Tomchina is the only HK seller I use now. HLJ is also somewhere I use, and for the rest, I bid on UK only no more then £10, includes delivery. This is why I get models for £4 -£8 at a time. Unless I really really want it, and I might go as high as £15.. Fed up with un-honest UK sellers.. And the postage on ebay is a joke..!! That is why I factor this into the bidding.. If I don't win then sod it..!! I wait for the next one to come along.

Like I said, paid too much for a MP/14 once, and this was the last time I entered a bidding war with others to ensure I won..

And when did you paid the item?

Did you saw that:

-They pay for flight sending and they came by boat;
-Peoples are waiting 2-3 months;
-They paid extras for a "solid-box" and don't have one;
-Models are crushed in boxes!!


He must have send mine! I live in Montreal, Canada... it's too long: SURE THEY ARE COMMING BY BOAT!!! (if they've been sent!)

:mad: :mad: :mad:

I am hoping he got mine in before he went nuts or whatever. Mine was one of his last auctions before a flood of negative feedbacks came, and he actually responded about a week before I found out he had bolted.

Anybody know if American Express has any fraud protection for stuff like this?

you should buy models off isaachris, he even put up with waiting ages for me to send the money, he got me a great deal and the shipping was really quick !

The only problems I have had with Ebay sellers seem to be US Sellers, send the wrong items, items never getting here, etc. Don't think USPS etc know of the UK ;)
Never had a problem with Asia sellers.
I have 318 (100%) positive feedbacks and hope to keep it that way.

I send many packages to the Uk and have never had a problem having them delivered. :)
David
http://www.hobbyexport.com

I am sorry to hear those scams guys.... those guys deserve a hit on their heads.... :banghead:

Actually I am one of the guy who will sell kits on ebay and I am a Canadian in Hong Kong right now. My ebay account (same as my nick here) has 100% positive feedbacks so far... (only 10 though.. hah). I always try to be as informitive as I could be to those winning bidders and I will notify them when the kit will be shipping out. If there is a delay on the shipping, I will always explain to them what's going on and tell them when is the latest moment I will be sending kits out....

I know and I understand some guys are trying to sell things and go away without shipping anything or doing some other STUPID things which make customers visit them only ONCE... but not all the Hong Kong sellers are like that. We are all trying to do some business on ebay and I don't want to see these scams ruin all the Hong Kong selles' repetitions.... We could have the kits as quick as Japan and for a decent price. Also, there are lots of discontiued kits on the market...

Talking about the shipping cost, our postal fee are quite high for shipping small parcels to either Europe or North America by airmail. They are calculated based on the weight of the parcel and for the price is starting at about USD$13 for the first 500g...

Just my few penny....

Hello Friends,

This thread brings me an idea... maybe we should open a thread reporting bad sellers (overpriced shipping for example).... opinions?

great idea!

me, first.

DO NOT BUY FROM DRIFTKING.

He move out from eBay! :mad:

Let's say:
If you want to buy from eBay, go check is feedback! It's REA-LLY important! Maybe it's the only way to get safe...

Oh, by the way, another thing: NICEDRIFTKING= :loser: !

Hey blu3scr33n, did you get any news about the scumbags? Did you get what you win?

I'm still hopping that they come by boat... waiting from 3 month now!! :banghead:

This is the second time that I got scammed from some guy in Hong Kong selling model kits. At the time that I paid for my kit, he only had few negative feedbacks. but, now, there are over 150 nasty comments for him and he's not a registered ebay member anymore. I paid with bidpay, and they wont do anything to get my money back.

I wont be buying anymore kits from Ebay, and you guys should be careful too.

This wouldn't be "obesummerjob" also known as "realsukercroatia" would it?

If so, I'm having the same problem, when I won the auction he had 150 and nearly 100% positive feedback. Now it looks like he's taking the money and running.

This wouldn't be "obesummerjob" also known as "realsukercroatia" would it?

If so, I'm having the same problem, when I won the auction he had 150 and nearly 100% positive feedback. Now it looks like he's taking the money and running.

I order him a Z-tune when he was named "obesummerjob" and 1 week after, it was at my house... then I was planning to command him a Celica and he changed his name to "realsukercroatia"... feedback indicate me that he changed his way to make buisness so I prefer don't bet on that...

It was a time "obesummerjob" was great...

Our @ssclown here was Nicedraftking: order 2 180SX, by the month after, all the feedbacks move to negative... and he move out of eBay!! No 180SX after 3 f***king months!!

This wouldn't be "obesummerjob" also known as "realsukercroatia" would it?

If so, I'm having the same problem, when I won the auction he had 150 and nearly 100% positive feedback. Now it looks like he's taking the money and running.

AFAIK different guy. I bought the Nismo Z-tune from obesummerjob but a few days later he said his dad closed his PayPal account and he can't complete the deal. He asked me to file a complain with PayPal and he will refund the money. I got my money back so I guess that wasn't too bad. I also bought from nicedriftking when he first started. I got my kits from him after about 45 days. The package was damaged but the damage to the kits was min. BTW, I think they all use just paper to wrap your packages and not a box. Anyway, I'm currently waiting on package from dogstar2005 to get here. It's been almost 2 months so I think I'm going to contact him soon. Looking at his feedback it looks like his PayPal account is closed too... :( I think I will stick with US sellers and HLJ from now on.

did any of you keep the parcel box from Nicedriftking? The box may have his address, there are HK people here that may be able to locate him.

did any of you keep the parcel box from Nicedriftking? The box may have his address, there are HK people here that may be able to locate him.

... And pay him a little visit... :naughty:

But I like the idea!

Can someone help us to make our dream come true?

Is anyone here has his banking account information?

Hi guys,

I just happened to read this thread while i'm preparing to take some macro photos of my recently completed 1/24 Xanavi GTR.

I recently helped out another local modeler here who got scammed on a deal worth 20 kits. If you guys happen to live locally in the Vancouver, BC Canada area, I can meet up with you, take a look at the kits if they came in really crappy or not as described in the auction, and offer a statement to PayPal in an effort to get your money back.

Paypal prefers neutral retail shops and people in the industry to help nail the losers on eBay.

Also, if you guys are looking for kits, and want them shipped to you perfectly at a good price, let me know. on Our shop also sells on eBay from time to time, and we do mail and special orders on all Japanese car and bike kits. Currently we have 100% on 86 trades, and we stand by our promise to real modelers.

Have fun modeling,
Vincent Wu, Owner
www.modelcraftersgp.com
ebay id: modelcrafters.grandprix

I know some of you are still waiting on packages from dogstar2005 so maybe this will give you some hope. I got my 3-kits from him yesterday after about 2 1/2 months. The kit boxes were all beat to heck because he just use a paper wraper but as far as I can tell there were no real damage to the kits. Anyway, if you bought from him a few months ago and use surface mail there might still be hope. Good luck...

I was just searching for a Nismo Z-tune on eBay and I came across a new seller that goes by the name "9.99seller' from HK. I have a feeling this is the same guy as nicedriftking, kobesummerjob, dogstar2005 and whatever else Mr. Wong calls himself. I'm guessing you shouldn't buy from this guy. Maybe if somebody has connection with eBay can turn this guy in and shut him down...

looks like another HK Ebay ripper:

exshowroom

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZexshowroomQQhtZ-1

looks like another HK Ebay ripper:

exshowroom

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZexshowroomQQhtZ-1

Why is he a Ripper ?

Hi , I dont want to sound as I am sticking up for this 9.99 seller but, I bought a Tamiya 1/12th scale Kawasaki ZX12-R off him and it came pretty quick, the corner of the box was slightly dented but apart from that it was superb, the contents were wrapped in loads of bubble wrap and they were immaculate
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I also sell and buy quite a bit on ebay, mostly bike and car models but sometimes for my other passion, my 1/1 toy in the sig at the bottom. My user name on ebay is the same as on this forum, my feedback is 88 and is at 98.9%, it would have been 100% but some no mark seller, 46rossi47lee, gave me bad feedback, he said he took pay-pal and when I tried to pay he said he wanted cash or money transfer only, I tried to email him but no luck even about 30, yes 30 emails, so the s**t gave me bad feedback, I have sold kits all over the world and have yet to get a complaint, check out my feedback and you'll see what I mean, as I have nothing to hide. I've bought a few bits for my bike (from UK sellers I must add) and have been jipped but never with kits, and they have came from all over the world. With living in the UK there is a shortage of decent hobby/model shops so I've got to look further afield to satisfy my plastic addiction :screwy:.

looks like another HK Ebay ripper:

exshowroom

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZexshowroomQQhtZ-1

Why do you say that?

I just order a 4dr Skyline...

Dammit! A part of me was saying that he was nicedraftking caus' I saw one of the car that I paid for in june... I hope I recieve this one...

I'm so :banghead:

Why is he a Ripper ?


exshowroom could be nicedraftking, they have the following similarities:

1. Selling kits at loss (you know the MSRP yen price of those kits, and even in HK, direct buying from dealer couldn't get such low price.

2. The way of his packaging according to "gpz900ra7" seems very similar to the one used by draftking.

I just want to raise a warn, no offense to him.

he's not selling them at a loss.
lets take the ferrari 550 that he's selling.
£8.99+£6.30 for postage = £15.29 = approx. HK$215.
even if the buyer opts for the cheaper postage, the total is still HK$176.
in HK the kit is around HK$180 in a store and i've seen it for HK$150 as part of a deal (i.e HK$300 for two).

he's not selling them at a loss.
lets take the ferrari 550 that he's selling.
£8.99+£6.30 for postage = £15.29 = approx. HK$215.
even if the buyer opts for the cheaper postage, the total is still HK$176.
in HK the kit is around HK$180 in a store and i've seen it for HK$150 as part of a deal (i.e HK$300 for two).

anyway, it has been discussing and sharing experience with 1 bad HK seller which sells kits at low price and gain 100+ feedback in 3 months. Then ran away and terminated all the paypal and ebay account; and open an new account and cheat money using the same way.

that is what I want to point out

p.s. exchange rate of GBP to HKD is around 13HK$=1GBP, i.e. 15.29=198.77

two months ago, i got 14.3 for mine.
in anycase, HK$200ish is still in profit.

anyway, it has been discussing and sharing experience with 1 bad HK seller which sells kits at low price and gain 100+ feedback in 3 months. Then ran away and terminated all the paypal and ebay account; and open an new account and cheat money using the same way.

this is what you should've pointed out in the first place.
does more than just linking to some random guy's e-bay profile.

Only time Ive ever had a problem with e-bay a guy sold me a kit with no body shell for a Beemer z8. wasnt too much of a big deal though I've saved hundreds on ebay.
the odd genuine mistake is exceptable.
The fraudsters you guys are mentioning are quite alarming.People will try anything for a couple or quid.

Im new here but since this has been made a relatively busy thread why dont you guys make a thread on here and post the names of the ones whos been noted for with-holding kits.Or non paying
Maybe this would benefit some of us later.??



M1CRO

Im new here but since this has been made a relatively busy thread why dont you guys make a thread on here and post the names of the ones whos been noted for with-holding kits.Or non paying
Maybe this would benefit some of us later.??


Such a thread already exists......

... And pay him a little visit... :naughty:

But I like the idea!

Can someone help us to make our dream come true?

that's a go idea, let me know. I will go knock him(them) out.

other things just want to point out, some sellers from Hong Kong will not sell to buyers from Hong Kong,why? the reason is they are selling model kits in impossible low prices, they'll only make profit will high shipping cost.

I will say the kit price mostly around HKD$80(USD$10) to HKD$160(USD$20)

Ho guys!!!

exshowroom IS nicedraftking!!!

One of the car he owe me, a 180sx aero version (purple on the box), he is selling one... the picture he use to describe it IS THE SAME DISPLAY WHEN HE WAS KNOWN AS NICEDRAFTKING!!! His new display show only the top of the box and what's inside the box, in the box... the old way he does: the top of the box and what's inside the box OUTSIDE the box... :mad: :mad: :mad:

It's not so solid but...

What sould I do instead of crying in the bathroom?

Help me, please !!

I'm just wondering, is it okay to buy from a person with feedback score at 7886 with 99.5% and a member since Dec-28-98?

I'm new to ebay. :)

I'm just wondering, is it okay to buy from a person with feedback score at 7886 with 99.5% and a member since Dec-28-98?

I'm new to ebay. :)

I think it's OK. What's is name?

I think it's OK. What's is name?
mb$4toys

mb$4toys

Reading his feedback, he seems to be a decent seller, I guess it depends on what you're buying.