Scams on Ebay!

Hi
I am from Hong Kong. nicedraftking is one of the Ebay scammer. He opens many accounts (46rossi47lee, base-xv-38, nicedraftking, dogstar2005, realsukercroatia, and seedgundamrev) to sell different types of products (Gundam, Tamiya, and Fujimi). He sells kits at low price and gains 100+ feedback in 3 months and then ran away. After Ebay terminated his accounts, he will open the new accounts and cheat money using same way. Now his ID are exshowroom and 9.99seller and xxseiyalegend. We should go to ask our money back and find a way to stop this guy stealing from others. We can report to

www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/index.htm

click e-Report Room and then click Report Cyber Crime

A lot of scamming going on there. . . Buyer beware . . .

Ebay themselves are a scam also. . . From a company stand point, they're all crooks including those at PayPal. . . Just have a look at their record and the amount of class action suits against them.

It's no wonder that NOTHING is done if you report a fraudulent seller. Fish tend to smim in their own schools. . .

Nice that you have given a link to a government agency rather than a useless link to ebay's "safe haven" or whatever the hell their calling it now . . .


Hi
I am from Hong Kong. nicedraftking is one of the Ebay scammer. He opens many accounts (46rossi47lee, base-xv-38, nicedraftking, dogstar2005, realsukercroatia, and seedgundamrev) to sell different types of products (Gundam, Tamiya, and Fujimi). He sells kits at low price and gains 100+ feedback in 3 months and then ran away. After Ebay terminated his accounts, he will open the new accounts and cheat money using same way. Now his ID are exshowroom and 9.99seller and xxseiyalegend. We should go to ask our money back and find a way to stop this guy stealing from others. We can report to

www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/index.htm

click e-Report Room and then click Report Cyber Crime

I used to sell kits on ebay in HK and I am very sorry to hear for all the bad things happened to you guys, those ppl really ruined our reputation. My advices, same as others, check out the feedback rating and pay only by paypal.

By the way, sometimes it's hard on sellers as well. From my experience you have about 1-2 non paying buyers out of every 10 kits, and the only thing I can do is claim back the listing fee from ebay. I want to leave -ve feedbacks but I couldn't as this turns out a revenge feedbacks for myself.

Ummm Ebay owns PayPal. . .

I speak from experiece here, seek alternative methods of payment! By all means DO NOT allow Ebay or PayPal access to your acounts.

Did you know that by merely paying your seller fees..., Well, this is right from EBay -

"PayPal will first attempt to withdraw funds from your PayPal account balance.

If there are not sufficient funds for the invoice in the PayPal account, PayPal will charge the preferred funding source chosen when you agreed to the “Automatic PayPal Payments for the eBay seller fees” Billing Agreement.

If you do not select a preferred funding source during that process, PayPal will allow eBay to bill your other funding sources.

If a payment from this preferred funding source fails, (for example, the credit card expires), the eBay invoice amount can be paid from other available funding sources."

DO NOT and I mean DO NOT trust Ebay or PayPal as they will make unauthorized charges on ANY account or method you used to pay seller fees with. Let's say you make a "one time payment" with a credit card. Ebay/PayPal keeps this information on file and WILL charge any account information on file.

Ebay is BIG on "Double Billing" and sometimes "TRIPLE BILLING". You need to keep an eye on them at all times!

Have a look here. . . (http://www.fazmiclaw.com/eBay.html)

As for resolution . . . You have no recourse.

PayPal is not a "Bank" and not regulated by normal banking guidelines set forth by the government. They can and will do what they want with your money and there's nothing you can do about it!

Wonder why Ebay requires you to place a credit card or checking account on file with them before you are allowed to sell???? When you least expect it, they will continually bill your account and drain your funds. . .

I suggest getting yourself a Pre-Paid credit card to pay seller fees with. If you have an existing account, remove all finacial information. If need be close your account and start from scratch. . . Don't turn your back on 'em for one second!

They WILL steal from you!

Hi
I am from Hong Kong. nicedraftking is one of the Ebay scammer. He opens many accounts (46rossi47lee, base-xv-38, nicedraftking, dogstar2005, realsukercroatia, and seedgundamrev) to sell different types of products (Gundam, Tamiya, and Fujimi). He sells kits at low price and gains 100+ feedback in 3 months and then ran away. After Ebay terminated his accounts, he will open the new accounts and cheat money using same way. Now his ID are exshowroom and 9.99seller and xxseiyalegend. We should go to ask our money back and find a way to stop this guy stealing from others. We can report to

www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/index.htm

click e-Report Room and then click Report Cyber Crime

I confirm this. I was scammed by this guy (dogstar2005). I reported to the Hong Kong police and they chased him.

A few days after he sent me an email all scared saying the police is after him. In 2 days I had my kits sent by EMS directly from hong kong. :biggrin:

After receiving the kits I forced him to refund me everything I have paid . Unbelievable....he did it.

I received every dollar :2cents: I paid as an indemnity for the time he made me spend with this scam. :grinyes:

Damn thieves!!! but this one was screwed up!!!

I have to thank the HK police for this miracle. They are really into cleaning an image that all HK dealers are crooks and that is part of China now: if you pass the yellow line they cut your hand!!!. THANKS HK POLICE!!!

Ummm Ebay owns PayPal. . .

I speak from experiece here, seek alternative methods of payment! By all means DO NOT allow Ebay or PayPal access to your acounts.

Did you know that by merely paying your seller fees..., Well, this is right from EBay -

"PayPal will first attempt to withdraw funds from your PayPal account balance.

If there are not sufficient funds for the invoice in the PayPal account, PayPal will charge the preferred funding source chosen when you agreed to the “Automatic PayPal Payments for the eBay seller fees” Billing Agreement.

If you do not select a preferred funding source during that process, PayPal will allow eBay to bill your other funding sources.

If a payment from this preferred funding source fails, (for example, the credit card expires), the eBay invoice amount can be paid from other available funding sources."

DO NOT and I mean DO NOT trust Ebay or PayPal as they will make unauthorized charges on ANY account or method you used to pay seller fees with. Let's say you make a "one time payment" with a credit card. Ebay/PayPal keeps this information on file and WILL charge any account information on file.

Ebay is BIG on "Double Billing" and sometimes "TRIPLE BILLING". You need to keep an eye on them at all times!

Have a look here. . . (http://www.fazmiclaw.com/eBay.html)

As for resolution . . . You have no recourse.

PayPal is not a "Bank" and not regulated by normal banking guidelines set forth by the government. They can and will do what they want with your money and there's nothing you can do about it!

Wonder why Ebay requires you to place a credit card or checking account on file with them before you are allowed to sell???? When you least expect it, they will continually bill your account and drain your funds. . .

I suggest getting yourself a Pre-Paid credit card to pay seller fees with. If you have an existing account, remove all finacial information. If need be close your account and start from scratch. . . Don't turn your back on 'em for one second!

They WILL steal from you!


Is it safe to assume you have had a bad ebay/paypal experience?

Hi
I am from Hong Kong. nicedraftking is one of the Ebay scammer. He opens many accounts (46rossi47lee, base-xv-38, nicedraftking, dogstar2005, realsukercroatia, and seedgundamrev) to sell different types of products (Gundam, Tamiya, and Fujimi). He sells kits at low price and gains 100+ feedback in 3 months and then ran away. After Ebay terminated his accounts, he will open the new accounts and cheat money using same way. Now his ID are exshowroom and 9.99seller and xxseiyalegend. We should go to ask our money back and find a way to stop this guy stealing from others. We can report to

www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/index.htm

click e-Report Room and then click Report Cyber Crime

Are you sure that it's a sure way to do because we're not 100% sure that's the same guy even if we know that's it's the same guy?

Is it safe to assume you have had a bad ebay/paypal experience?


To say the least!

They triple billed my account which in turn depleted all funds from my checking and put me into overdraft by over 200 bucks . . .

Not only did they not have permission to access my PayPal account, they also had no permission to go into my checking account. But, since I previously paid with both as a one-time payment, I guess it gives Ebay the right to do whatever the hell they want . . .

Again, have a look at the class action link provided in my previous post. . . That's exactly what they did to me. . .

"EBay announced that the problem -- which eBay calls the "double billing
glitch" -- was solved and that not a single customer had actually overpaid as a result of the error."

What a crock!!! My seller account showing a negative balance owed!!!

Also, I swear to god they have the rejects of WalMart Greeters working in their customer support. . . "Live Help" is a joke in itself. Most of the time they know nothing of what they are talking about and when they become flustered, you get a scripted response. . .

Totally disgusted with them and PayPal. . .

i think now is a good time to differentiate between what goes on in the US and what goes on in the UK (where i am currently based).

whilst there have been cases of bad customer care in the cases of fraud, ebay itself has been very good at keeping their business record clean.
there is also the point that ebay has in the past two odd years been buying up many other auction sites and merging them into the larger network.
this kind of thing always creates problems as systems within systems that may not even be compatible each try to communicate through and to each other.

not trying to remove the blame. just trying to point out a few relevant things, not to mention that the number of actual 'faults' occuring when you look at the number of members and the number of deals that occur every day, the percentage isn't bad at all.

at the root of it all is that the company doesn't seem to care.
if it did, it would've mde sure there would be no admin errors, or at least minimise them and it would treat the cases more seriously.

Man, ya hit the nail on the head there. . . Ebay just doesn't care. . .

As far as their record goes, I've been dealing with Ebay for YEARS. PayPal too. . . Never in a million years would I expect to have run into such a problem and as I research this matter more and more, the findings are scary. . .

This all just happened this month. As of this posting my previous balance as stated above is now at zero. . . Where did my money go??? I have no clue. . . A letter received from customer support (a reply to a message sent 6 days ago) says that a refund most likely will occur and will be reflected in my account status yet, there is no record that a refund has been initiated and the balance on my account is gone. . .

This is not isolated to Ebay only as PayPal earlier this month duplicated transactions on my account also. After a few days the money was returned to my account however, there were no offers to pay restitution for $75 bucks in overdraft fees. . .

Don't get me wrong. . The concept of Ebay is awesome and like I said, I've had many years with no problems . . . The system however is flawed and one must take precautions to protect their interests. Buying on Ebay seems relatively safe (other than the aforementioned scammers). Selling on the other hand gives Ebay too much control of your money.

If something like this happens to you, expect no help from Ebay. Their customer support system is a joke. Trying to contact them is a nightmare and it's no wonder why they state on their pages that it is best to deal with any issues through their email system. Again, a joke as they seem to reply when they get around to it. Over the years I have had several issues and have waiting no less than FOUR days for a response. In this day and age and with the size of that company, that's just ridiculous regardless of how inundated they may be. Phone calls are ALWAYS greeted with the "We are experiencing high call volume" no matter what time of day you call and expect to spend a good hour or two on hold only to get the previously stated panned and scripted dialogue. . .

Here's another thread on their discussion boards. Billing issues here run the gamut from over-billing to being charged double for final value fees. . .

billing issues (http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?forumID=87&threadID=410092573)

I can't stress enough to the sellers out there, invest in a prepaid credit card and pay any seller fees with that limiting Ebay and PayPal both access to your personal accounts.

Finally, if you try to file a complaint with PayPal about Ebay this is what you get. . .

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6069/ppebay4nd.gif

And if you try to contact Ebay's customer support by phone, you are referred back to "live help" and promptly hung up on . . .

Try to email 'em and you are directed to this page. Which works only half the time I might add. You click the corresponding subject, hit continue and it brings ya right back to the same page. . . NICE TOUCH!!!

Email Support (http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/index.html)

Okay . . . I've officially HIGHJACKED this thread . . . I'll shaddup now! lol

Are you sure that it's a sure way to do because we're not 100% sure that's the same guy even if we know that's it's the same guy?

Report to the Hong Kong police about your situation. We have right to suspect someone. HK police will search those ID to find out who they are.

Let's bring this guy to justice

Sorry to hear about your bad deal! It infuriates me to hear all these bad stories on or off ebay, It makes it awfully hard for us to build up an international internet business when theres so many rip off merchants out there! Unfortunately they're every where, not just online!! I had the opposite happen quite a few times already, where people have ordered resin parts from me and then never completed the sale (no payment received), one chick said that her cat made the sale while she was making coffee in the wee hours of the morning (how's that for a smart cat hey??)

I just received an item from this person (xxseiyalegend). I am glad that I got it! I did not know this is the same person as nicedraftking...

Just an update to where Ebay is concerned . . .

When all of this "over-billing" took place earlier this month, the first overcharge was put off as a system glitch and I was okay with that. The second and third however took place days after the first charge.

After getting no where with customer support and dealing with that nightmare (on a daily basis for weeks now), I promptly shot off a strongly worded (yet polite) registered letter, email and fax to the Board of Directors, specifically Meg Whitman.

While I realized it would be impossible for Meg Whitman to address my issues directly and correspondence was probably useless. I was shocked to receive a reply from her personal assistant today.

She said that Meg had personally read my concerns, offered her apology and the money in question was going to be returned to my accounts forthwith . . .

Surprised? Shocked? umm yeah, I would say so. Elated? UH HUH!!!!

On the flip side, I also received another email from Ebay's customer support informing me (after days of multiple emails back and forth) that I was going to have to take the issue up with PayPal. . .

They just toss you from one to the other hoping to avoid an issue . . .

Advise for sellers? Get that pre-paid credit card to use for your seller account and if issues do come up, HEAD FOR THE TOP. . . Customer support will get you no where . . .

Report to the Hong Kong police about your situation. We have right to suspect someone. HK police will search those ID to find out who they are.

Let's bring this guy to justice

I got the new information about the name of this criminal

His Chinese name is TANG, WING KAI
last name: TANG
first name: WING KAI

do you guy got the same name?????

Every Chinese has a unique name
it is very hard to find two people with the same name
so I would like to comfirm about this

His Chinese name is TANG, WING KAI
last name: TANG
first name: WING KAI


I can confirm, I have the same name, he even gave ma a phone number but I do not want to try...I live in Belgium, rather far away and I had already enough cost with this guy !

I have sent a report to the HK police through the link you gave.
I will see...

I got the new information about the name of this criminal

His Chinese name is TANG, WING KAI
last name: TANG
first name: WING KAI

do you guy got the same name?????

Every Chinese has a unique name
it is very hard to find two people with the same name
so I would like to comfirm about this

I have the name of exshowroom here: Wayne Tang...
and his phone number: 852-93128544

alright, lets get this bastard and be on the news!:)

I have the name of exshowroom here: Wayne Tang...
and his phone number: 852-93128544

a lot of people have both Chinese and English Name in Hong Kong
it might be the same guy.
I got his Chinese name from one of the victim of Dogstar2005
Every victim of heiheihei999, 46rossi47lee, base-xv-38, nicedraftking, dogstar2005, realsukercroatia, and seedgundamrev

Please report to

www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/index.htm
click e-Report Room and then click Report Cyber Crime

Please do not forget to report to your local police. Hong Kong police told me that Hong Kong police force needs your locel police to coordinate with
Ebay cannot help us. We must choose other powerful way to turn him down

I got the new information about the name of this criminal

His Chinese name is TANG, WING KAI
last name: TANG
first name: WING KAI

do you guy got the same name?????

Every Chinese has a unique name
it is very hard to find two people with the same name
so I would like to comfirm about this


This was the guy who tried to screw me up. He had bad luck! The HK police chased him and he sent me the kits.

This was the guy who tried to screw me up. He had bad luck! The HK police chased him and he sent me the kits.

Yeah, this guy screw me up too.

I bought one car long time ago but never receive it. I didn't do anything since it was only 20$, but he is a bastard, too bad I will never get my cash or my kit :-(

First: Wing Kai
Last : Tang
Street Address: Po Box 79608 Mongkok Post Office
City : Mongkok
State / Province: outside US/ Canada
Region : KLM
Zip code : 0124
Country : Hong Kong

Yeah, this guy screw me up too.

I bought one car long time ago but never receive it. I didn't do anything since it was only 20$, but he is a bastard, too bad I will never get my cash or my kit :-(

When he screw you?

He f*cked me in late june... I don't know if it's too far.

looks like he's already scamming with 9.99seller account. God!, I hope this guy goes to jail and gets what's coming to him.

When he screw you?

He f*cked me in late june... I don't know if it's too far.

I don't know, for myself, it was late june too :-(

looks like he's already scamming with 9.99seller account. God!, I hope this guy goes to jail and gets what's coming to him.

do you know any different ID of this bastard beside those I got?????

It worked for me !
I have sent to the Hong-Kong police a short e-mail describing the problem with the seller, giving his name, address and so on. (see the link given here above) The day after, I got a response from the "Internet criminal police dept" that they had registered my complaint and that they will come back to me soon. So, I forwarded this message to dogstar...whatever he is called...asking to get my money back and he sent me a complete refund with Paypal the day after !!!...ha...ha.

I can only advice other people to do the same, whishing you good luck !

I'll bet he isn't going to like it when SDU hits his doorstep!

looks like another HK Ebay ripper:

exshowroom

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZexshowroomQQhtZ-1

Well lets hope not cuz I just ordered a kit from him, so far he seems to be ok and I will let you all know how things turn out with him and my order.....

Well lets hope not cuz I just ordered a kit from him, so far he seems to be ok and I will let you all know how things turn out with him and my order.....


I ordered 4 cars on Dec 5 and received 3 in a single package within 10 days which I considered great service. Unfortunately the 4th never arrived. Have been told 3 different stories about how its already been mailed and should arrive soon, then how HK Post is trying to track it but can't find it, then in the last email admits he's out of stock and can I just wait until MAYBE he gets some more stock sometime in the future?

I politely asked for a Paypal refund last week and was told it would happen on Monday, well its Tuesday night and I've got no refund and had no contact. If something happens I'll update this post.

Hello eBay dispute resolution, again.

You know the more I think about this the more it reminds me of my horrors from my Enzo escapade earlier this year. In which I had to turn the guy into ebay for fraud (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=400820&highlight=fraud). The sellers name was "toy_power_seller" and man it was horrible but finally after turning him into ebay and alot of threatening calls he finally upped my Enzo kit...

The sellers name was "toy_power_seller" and man it was horrible but finally after turning him into ebay and alot of threatening calls he finally upped my Enzo kit...

I've bought lots of things from toy_power_seller, an Enzo, a 360, a clear F50, red F50 and a 350Z and some of these weren't over eBay, but by e-mail, each time the model arrived within two weeks of payment.

It worked for me !
I have sent to the Hong-Kong police a short e-mail describing the problem with the seller, giving his name, address and so on. (see the link given here above) The day after, I got a response from the "Internet criminal police dept" that they had registered my complaint and that they will come back to me soon. So, I forwarded this message to dogstar...whatever he is called...asking to get my money back and he sent me a complete refund with Paypal the day after !!!...ha...ha.

I can only advice other people to do the same, whishing you good luck !


When did you order your car?

I've bought lots of things from toy_power_seller, an Enzo, a 360, a clear F50, red F50 and a 350Z and some of these weren't over eBay, but by e-mail, each time the model arrived within two weeks of payment.

Well I'm glad to hear that you got your stuff, it only took me almost 4 months to get mine from him and thats after all the calls and threats...

are you still going on about that?
and because he isn't on this forum explaining himself, we still don't know if he actually received the payment for the kits that you demanded after your threats.
after all, from what i gather, there are still way more people who have had a satisfactory service from him on ebay then those who have not.

are you still going on about that?
and because he isn't on this forum explaining himself, we still don't know if he actually received the payment for the kits that you demanded after your threats.
after all, from what i gather, there are still way more people who have had a satisfactory service from him on ebay then those who have not.
Well considering hes No longer a registered user on ebay, I think that says enough about it now doesnt it......

it's still not conclusive.
the guy had two odd years of selling over ebay and over 4000 items sold.
ebay works on a system whereby x number of complaints and then you get shut down.
one bad period (i.e you don't get your stock delivered to you hence you can't send out) and it's bye bye ebay membership due to too many complaints all at once.

simple fact is, in YOUR case for which we know more details, you sent him a payment that might've not been received and might not have even been accepted by the banking system there (at least without high charges.
you still can't prove that he received the payment.

before this goes on again, i want to point out that i am not defending the guy specifically; just want to point out other possibilities as after all, we can only read your own example from you which for obvious reasons might not be the most fair of responses.

i have previously sent cash through the post to an e-bay member as it was the only viable metohd that he accepted (paypal was acting up+other methods cost me too much). the kit wasn't expensive so i figured if it gets lost i don't really care. as luck would have it, the seller says he never got the payment and i know i sent it (registered my end so i have my receipt for sending - other end is noted as received but anyone can sign for it claiming to be the addressee).
sure i could've been scammed but the e-bay member is also a highly respected member of this forum (who probably still doesn't know it was me who was buying the item) and i believe him when he says he didn't receive it and more to the point, i don't really care as i knew it was a risk anyway.

which goes to the one thing that I do have a thing about regarding your example. Everyone knows that paypal is the safest and best way to deal with, especially with overseas deals. you didn't use paypal and you seem to not be realise that any of it might have been the slightest bit possible down to you. after all if you had used paypal, you would've gotten some of your money back, AND not to mention that you got your kit in the end anyway.

i mean look at it from his p.o.v
he could've just ignored the annoying customer who insists he paid, especially if he really was a guy scamming people from ebay. why would he even care that a guy who he dealt with 4 months ago is threatening him?

it's still not conclusive.
the guy had two odd years of selling over ebay and over 4000 items sold.
ebay works on a system whereby x number of complaints and then you get shut down.
one bad period (i.e you don't get your stock delivered to you hence you can't send out) and it's bye bye ebay membership due to too many complaints all at once.

simple fact is, in YOUR case for which we know more details, you sent him a payment that might've not been received and might not have even been accepted by the banking system there (at least without high charges.
you still can't prove that he received the payment.

before this goes on again, i want to point out that i am not defending the guy specifically; just want to point out other possibilities as after all, we can only read your own example from you which for obvious reasons might not be the most fair of responses.

i have previously sent cash through the post to an e-bay member as it was the only viable metohd that he accepted (paypal was acting up+other methods cost me too much). the kit wasn't expensive so i figured if it gets lost i don't really care. as luck would have it, the seller says he never got the payment and i know i sent it (registered my end so i have my receipt for sending - other end is noted as received but anyone can sign for it claiming to be the addressee).
sure i could've been scammed but the e-bay member is also a highly respected member of this forum (who probably still doesn't know it was me who was buying the item) and i believe him when he says he didn't receive it and more to the point, i don't really care as i knew it was a risk anyway.

which goes to the one thing that I do have a thing about regarding your example. Everyone knows that paypal is the safest and best way to deal with, especially with overseas deals. you didn't use paypal and you seem to not be realise that any of it might have been the slightest bit possible down to you. after all if you had used paypal, you would've gotten some of your money back, AND not to mention that you got your kit in the end anyway.

i mean look at it from his p.o.v
he could've just ignored the annoying customer who insists he paid, especially if he really was a guy scamming people from ebay. why would he even care that a guy who he dealt with 4 months ago is threatening him?

I understand what your saying and you are correct, there are some things that could have happened. Im not trying to argue or anything so dont take it the wrong way please. I was just pointing out what happened to me, now the guy did recieve over 200 complaints in the last month or so right before ebay shut him down. And I did learn to use paypal for overseas payments and have every since that happened.

I ordered 4 cars on Dec 5 and received 3 in a single package within 10 days which I considered great service. Unfortunately the 4th never arrived. Have been told 3 different stories about how its already been mailed and should arrive soon, then how HK Post is trying to track it but can't find it, then in the last email admits he's out of stock and can I just wait until MAYBE he gets some more stock sometime in the future?

I politely asked for a Paypal refund last week and was told it would happen on Monday, well its Tuesday night and I've got no refund and had no contact. If something happens I'll update this post.

Hello eBay dispute resolution, again.

**UPDATE**

I filed a claim with PayPal on Wednesday morning and received a full refund from exshowroom on Thursday afternoon for the single kit including postage. Can't ask for more than that.

Just a shame he didn't contact me right at the start so the 'out of stock' model could be swapped for another selling at the same price. I really could've done without 5 weeks of BS over a cheap model.

DAMMIT!

exshowroom is no longer a registered user on eBay!!!:banghead: :banghead:

We just went to a agreement!!:banghead: :banghead:

I hope he send my new package!!!

yeah i noticed that too nemesis. i purchased 2 kits from him. i sent him an email asking how much it cost for airmail. i paid that amount. then he says he sent it by surface mail...

how do i file a complaint when he is no longer a member of ebay?

well that was half my savings gone down the drain

DAMMIT!

exshowroom is no longer a registered user on eBay!!!:banghead: :banghead:

We just went to a agreement!!:banghead: :banghead:

I hope he send my new package!!!

I doubt that he will, I turned him into ebay ans paypal as a fraudulant seller because the Integra kit I bought off him never showed up. I waited the time he said in the auction and then I emailed asking him nicely where my kit was and he said that he shipped it and started accusing me of trying to rip him off. I had to go through paypal to get my money back. There is a link in this post to the HK police department, maybe those who didnt use paypal can get in touch with them and see if they will do something about all this.

i paid with paypal. how do i get a full refund?

I too bought something from exshowroom. I contacted him and he said he would send off all the kits... we'll see how that goes.

"all the kits"? how many did you buy?

I too bought something from exshowroom. I contacted him and he said he would send off all the kits... we'll see how that goes.

Does he said that he didn't know that eBay closed is account?

Does he said that he didn't know that eBay closed is account?

Yes ebay shut his account down, not only was he ripping people off but he never paid ebay for the stuff he sold. Anyone who has not yet recieved their stuff should report him just to make sure ebay doesnt let him back in. It takes some balls to rip us off but even bigger ones to rip ebay off.....

he said that ebay wont accept his credit card account or something??

he calls himself mavin

As soon as these guys get enough negatives to really affect their feedback rating they collect as many orders as possible, go MIA and start again.

I can say that you never got what you bought. He never send the items.

Go and report to:

www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/index.htm

click e-Report Room and then click Report Cyber Crime

Tell them the criminal name and his information.

Guys! What is his name you got from Paypal???
I doubt that xxseiyalegend and bigjohnocean belong to this criminal

by the way
He has been an Ebay scammer for 3 years.
I have observed him for long time
He opened many accounts (heiheihei999, worldpeaceforce, allisonlocal, gundamwholesale, 46rossi47lee, nicedraftking, dogstar2005, realsukercroatia, seedgundamrev, 9.99seller, and exshowroom)

cool, thanks for the help. I guess I won't be seeing that junction produce :(

i avoid doing business with any seller residing in HK unless they are a power seller...even so i feel insecure.

he's not selling them at a loss.
lets take the ferrari 550 that he's selling.
£8.99+£6.30 for postage = £15.29 = approx. HK$215.
even if the buyer opts for the cheaper postage, the total is still HK$176.
in HK the kit is around HK$180 in a store and i've seen it for HK$150 as part of a deal (i.e HK$300 for two).

two months ago, i got 14.3 for mine.
in anycase, HK$200ish is still in profit.

this is what you should've pointed out in the first place.
does more than just linking to some random guy's e-bay profile.


Originally Posted by drunken monkey
well, i have to say that i'm with the 4000 odd other customers of his that have had no problems what-so-ever.

that is, seeing as how you like percentages and all that, the 96/97% that are happy with how things went.


I havent watched AF for 4 months, and 4 months before I already said exshowroom is the ebay scammer http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3573407&postcount=45 and most likely is nicrdraftking

just now 4 months passed, it proofs. I already mentioned there is no way he is selling all the kits at loss, why I was challenged that he still made profits? I was pissed off by drunkey monkey.

What is your problem, drunkey monkey? I dont need your agreement, but why you kept disagreeing me and challenging me. You offensed me all the time. I did not offense you, I jsut raised the issue and points.

I want to ask you do you live in HK? DO you know here market situation? there is no way to sell a kit to world in such cheap cost. There is cost man, some cost you cant save. And nicedraftking is making loss at first 3 months, then ran away with a big bag of money.

It is one simple reason he is selling at 9.99, although he makes loss for 3 months, he will get back all his loss by not sending out the goods at last, the amount captured is much more than he loses. You can see how many buyers were cheated by him (nicedraftking or heiheihei wtever).

I doubt with hkpolice, if this guy has been scamming for 3 yrs, why he still exists? if police really after him, why he still exist? and obviously hkpolice has enough evidence to bring him to court, why he still wonders around?

I just want to point, I was not randomly link to some scammer profile, but sometimes at a public forum, many people are looking at. And you cannot point out some fact directly as you donno who is lookiing at , and the consequence is. I think some people here I hv talked to in PM knows what I mean .

my original point was, all you did back then when the thread first came up, was to link to a person who was selling under ebay using methods that might've been suspicious. However, all you did was link to his ebay profile and say he looks like another scammer. You did not go into any detail as to why you thought him suspicious; hence my saying it was more or less a random link.

Secondly, you made a statement that i simply did not agree with.
those first two quotes of mine were exactly what I was talking about with regards to my own experiences with exchange rates at a time close to when that discussion took place.
it wasn't you per se that i was disagreeing with, rather the things that you were saying which while it might seem to be the same thing, isn't. That is the nature of discussion. You present one set of details/facts/information, someone else presents another. Simply saying something is so, doesn't mean much unless you explain why you say so. As you say yoursef, there are lots of people reading this forum and that is why I believe that it is always better to present as much information with regards to this sort of thing to begin with or else it can get messy.

something really unexpected happened today. i received a parcel from exshowroom. i didnt wait too long as it was only about 1 month. so i guess whoever has order from him, there is still hope!

yay this is my first proper model! i will buy more paints and tools so that i can start it.

anyone willing to guide or tutor me through my first project?

I too will vouch for Tomchina on Ebay, I have bought 3 kits from him, two Sierra XR4's and a Alfa Romeo DTM, they arrived excellently packaged and real quick.
You will always find scammers in most trade sites, but fortunately they are few and far between

I have bought from exshowroom via ebay and the item a 575M arrived with in 10 days well packaged with all the sptures wrapped in bubble wrap. No complaints from me regarding him, he was responsive to email as well. I was always polite which usually gets any problem resolved.

I have bought from exshowroom via ebay and the item a 575M arrived with in 10 days well packaged with all the sptures wrapped in bubble wrap. No complaints from me regarding him, he was responsive to email as well. I was always polite which usually gets any problem resolved.

That means very little unless you purchased in the last week of his account. He had built up 1000 good feedback before going downhill. I was polite too and the guy BS'ed me for five weeks and ignored a refund request until PayPal forced it.

I'd like to know if people that ordered from exshowroom in the last five days before he went missing have received anything. If you look at his eBay history he sold US$2193 worth of models in just the last 5 days of his account. Remember to DOUBLE that figure if you include his shipping costs.

For the guys claiming through PayPal, what are PayPal saying about this? Is his account empty? Is his name really Mavin So?

That means very little unless you purchased in the last week of his account. He had built up 1000 good feedback before going downhill. I was polite too and the guy BS'ed me for five weeks and ignored a refund request until PayPal forced it.

I'd like to know if people that ordered from exshowroom in the last five days before he went missing have received anything. If you look at his eBay history he sold US$2193 worth of models in just the last 5 days of his account. Remember to DOUBLE that figure if you include his shipping costs.

For the guys claiming through PayPal, what are PayPal saying about this? Is his account empty? Is his name really Mavin So?


I received 3 models from exshowroom, one in December 05 just before Christmas, one 21st January 2006 and the last 27th January 2006. All arrived in the UK within 10 days of buying on ebay and although not with the best packaging that i`ve seen, no damage to any model. I have also emailed him 2 days ago and he responded within 2 hours. I asked him directly why he had been removed from ebay, and he said that it was due to non payment of fees to ebay and that was down to his credit card not being accepted internationally.

I cannot comment about whether or not he has ever used any of the aliases that have been alleged in other posts.

Now I don`t know any more than that, but what I do know is that, speaking from recent personal experience, I have not been scammed. I too have read his feedback comments and it appears to me that most people who left negative feedback, 3 individuals, 2 were concerned about damaged goods and one who did not receive goods at all. The few people who left neutral were mainly concerned with packaging or slow delivery. Any one can see by checking his last months feedback, 20 pages of 25 entries per page, 5 Neg and 9 or 10 Neutral is a small percentage. Overall in the last 12 months, 985 positive, 10 neutral and 8 negative, IN MY OPINION, does not constitute a scammer. I do add that everyone who posts here has a right to voice their opinion and I also respect that, but surely those figures, ebays figures not mine, should tell us something?

This was one of his identity... check how many neg he have before his account was closed...

http://feedback.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=nicedraftking&iid=