Prius--my view

I hope I do not anger because it is not my purpose. Here are facts re my car:
1) The mileage figures are nonsense. If you use the air (90F) and if you do not become a road hazard---you get about 38 mpg.
2) You only get the advertised mileage if you use no air --stay under 60--and accelerate so slowly that the CVT hits its highpoint very early and you are a road hazard.
3) With an 11 gallon tank--aside from fuel cost--your range is not as good as a Lexus with a big tank and a 22mpg cruise.
4) A VW TDI is definitely better if you want good mileage with normal driving.
5) The fuel consumption readout drives one crazy.
6) People with Kerry stickers think you are like them.
Well I own one---but!

[QUOTE=mauleskyrocket]I hope I do not anger because it is not my purpose. Here are facts :
4) A VW TDI is definitely better if you want good mileage with normal driving.
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Let me tell you why TDI is better :

1) PAH fine particles from Diesel - several independed researches and studies proven it causes cancer.

2) 40% cancer from city related air traffic environment will come from Diesel (cars and factory) (from 2003-next 10 years)

3) Pah particles are almost similar to those of asbestos, after you inhale critical amount of the same, it is only question of time when your lung will develop pathology.

Many earth friendly organizations and as well as independed ones are making effort to warn people of Diesel "power", that is deliberately kept quiet for $$$ reasons.

So yes, your Diesel is "fantastic" choice.

If you have no relatives, friends, family and fell no responsibility as unique individual whose decisions reflect value for this planet no matter how it might feel small, then yes go to your Diesel, save what you only borrow now to keep for future generations : HOME = EARTH

Why not buy SUV & Diesel that is exquisite choice from HELL !
After all, one war or two, who cares, right?

As long we can all drive "big" cars. :(

You definitely have that Kerry sticker fella. Prob love Kennedy too. Your answer is pure nonsense.

You definitely have that Kerry sticker fella. Prob love Kennedy too. Your answer is pure nonsense.


While reading your eloquence presented in your writing I presume you are in elementary school?

If so, I apologize for too many advanced information, you will get to that in high school, very soon.

As for your candidates, I leave them all to you. Every one is best money can buy in politics.

Try to read more and educate your mind, otherwise others will choose for you.

Until that time you will "sticker fella" in ignorance.

As for nonsense, on planet that has only 1.5% drinkable water and countries that are turning their backs on Kyoto protocol, people like you are what every politician can hope for: Sleepy consumer

Just to see how "nonsense" is this :


http://archive.greenpeace.org/climate/smile/tech/17diesel.html


http://www.pirg.org/reports/enviro/dangerousdiesel/


http://childrentoday.com/resources/articles/dieseldanger.htm


http://www.rtpnet.org/~wakelwv/EnvironmentCom.htm

http://www.pirg.org/reports/enviro/dangerousdiesel/Dangers_Of_Diesel.pdf

kind regards,

I posted to talk about my prius and that a TDI was better. You come back with liberal rhetoric from Greenpiece etc. You liberals never miss a chance---talk about cars and you want to talk about the environmrent=====the new home of the pinko left wing. Over and out.

I posted to talk about my prius and that a TDI was better. You come back with liberal rhetoric from Greenpiece etc. You liberals never miss a chance---talk about cars and you want to talk about the environmrent=====the new home of the pinko left wing. Over and out.



You utter Wis entirely.

You are just too sagacious for my wisdom.

Copy paste this text and over the years read the same again.
Maybe you grasp why on earth you failed to understand this point.

Indeed I'm talking about your Prius (soon to purchase the same in Europe) and how exquisite Toyota made the same. Yet you drag about your "inconvenience" with cleanest car on the planet and you would want even better economy.

This dirt Diesel engine you dare to compare with with ingenious Toyota's creation?

You strike me as very cheap driver in land that swims in free Oil,(compared to other countries) and driving is almost free, yet you would like better economy? - ride bicycle then to save even more money!!!

Liberals?, I think you would require supplement in education to understand structure of civil society within politics and to understand that environment has no party !!!!!

It affects everyone !!! , even people like you, who think environment is cliché.

Too much television indoctrination does limit ones vista of higher sphere
then political party or nation.

You think that (provided links) cancer associated from Diesel is a flying comment you can pass over your dinner, maybe you can, until you become the one with the same (I hope not)

The essence of this magnificent car Prius is while every other manufacturer laughed at Toyota strivings to make this happened, and to make proof it is possible to make fantastic little car with performance nothing short of fantastic and yet cleanest commercial vehicle on the planet.

Prius was conceived for people who understand how their vehicle decisions do affect this globe.

You are clearly not the one. You don't even deserve to drive Prius.

Go, buy your Diesel, let someone who is more responsible to this planet drive this car.

http://www.angelfire.com/alt/volken/4Forum/SynergyPriulonne2004.jpg

http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63413,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

nuff said!

http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63413,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

nuff said!


This only proves that speed addicted reviewers don't feel enough sexy in their test Prius so would like to compensate in critique to gas mileage.

In either way, considering Prius breakthrough in making this engine cleanest commercial engine available only blind man would criticize technology that provides fantastic results and it is even in very early stages of what it will be able to offer in soon to come new version.

This is second Prius and how far it has reached since earliest stage and where it might come in Prius 3.

I could give you 10 time more links proving other points all in favor of Prius, but frankly, you are just not the person who either understand or appreciates the very essence of this pioneering synergy between vehicles and environment.

I'm very sorry to hear you purchased this vehicle, you are poor advocate of this technology and I hope you will never need to advise anyone about the same.

But thing are not that bad,since you are the very first Prius user who is so unconsidered and uninformed of this technology to my attention.

Some of us in Europe have to wait because of fantastic production demand in states.

Which is fantastic, I'm happy to hear folks in states like this car and care for its benefits.

Then again it makes me sick to wait when I hear that person like you is driving the same.

What a waste.

I hope you will sell yours soon.

You sound like a sick puppy! I am sorry and apologize for any of us who own the car that do not meet with your approval. Oh, I wish you were French so bad.

No I'm not the French.

But I feel like one when observing TV propaganda brain washed person such as yourself.

I'm not American either,but feel like one when someone with the same limitations like yours from Europe presents the same lame arguments.

If TV war propaganda can shape and fill someone's absence of understanding history and recent foreign policies in general relation to entire world, then poor is such mind.

Wake up !!!

As someone who has served the USA and if you had a brain you would know how. Go stick it. U.S. policy is the best and keep it up and we will invade you- you sniveling fool.

As someone who has served the USA and if you had a brain you would know how. Go stick it. U.S. policy is the best and keep it up and we will invade you- you sniveling fool.


Necesse est multos timeat, quem multi timent.

Immodicis brevis est aetas et rara senectus.

mauleskyrocket = Inscitia mater arrogantiae.

Tache sumare ton guenetz.(Thats Slovenian---go translate it genius)

Tache sumare ton guenetz.(Thats Slovenian---go translate it genius)


Dear lord.

Hahahaha,...

Yes, lack of understanding Latin does make some people aggressive like you present yours here.

But shape you anger you furnish with even greater vice.

Slovenian language belongs to Slavic family of languages, not even one single word you wrote has any even remotely root in Slovenian language.

This quasi French/Latin combination is reflection of poor mind and nothing else.

Your school system "should" be proud with this extraordinary dilettante mastery gibberish you present to your own shame.

Do you even know where Slovenia is situated?
At least belonging continent ?

Hahaha, Kali Yuga is known name for this period of what we consider linear time.

It means -times of ignorance- when I read summation of your wis, I believe, even with greater aplomb.

Remember , everything you send comes back to you. Universal laws of action and reaction.

Your present thoughts are what shapes you imminent future.

At least make some effort to become a better man, man of free mind, read some book, let it take you where you never walked before. You might surprise yourself, there is so much more out there then just
raw limitations of inactive mind.

I hope you will path away from this sad mentality.

Listen fella---that is from a Slovenian hymn you fool. I still think your French. I would love to be your neighbor. Wow. Who would believe finding you on a car board. I am sure Prius would love you as a spokes(person).

Listen fella---that is from a Slovenian hymn you fool. I still think your French. I would love to be your neighbor. Wow. Who would believe finding you on a car board. I am sure Prius would love you as a spokes(person).


My goodness,

Ignorance combination with complete lack of manners.

I happen to be decently fluent with Slovenian language and I can only laugh how ridiculous is what you are saying.

But I shall not inhale one single word, no more, let this shame,undefended nonsense you wrote stays and reminds others of your educational apprehension.

Words from Slovenian national anthem?

Hahahahahahahaha,

God have mercy on your mind.

I can't wait until someone from Slovenia or fluent with language visit this forum and reads you "insights" on their language.

Well, your mail box wont be empty, that is for sure.

By the way,if you ever wish to read and hear what Slovenian anthem really is :

http://www.thenationalanthems.com/country/slovenia.htm

Honestly, thank you for your participation in this forum, you made me laugh like I havent laugh from a long time, I can't wait to show this to my friends.

I said hymn not anthem. If you are a Windish expert then translate "coxe te qoi". Certianly that is easy. Why don't we stop fighting. The U. S. is for peace. Do you see that I could be unhappy with Prius cars but not dislike you? Where are you from? maybe that is part of our misunderstanding. I am from the southern U.S. I mostly fly airplanes. Fast kinds. What do you do my friend? My new buddy Volken.

I will even take you to Talledega. I know it is 2 mpg but you would enjoy it. Mauleskyrocket is now the friend of Volken. My buddy. Talledega. You can meet Rusty Wallace. You can sing the U.S. National Anthem. You will see some of our troops with the flag. Our President even shows up sometimes. Trust me good old Volken--you are really a good old boy.

I said hymn not anthem. If you are a Windish expert then translate "coxe te qoi". Certianly that is easy. Why don't we stop fighting. The U. S. is for peace. Do you see that I could be unhappy with Prius cars but not dislike you? Where are you from? maybe that is part of our misunderstanding. I am from the southern U.S. I mostly fly airplanes. Fast kinds. What do you do my friend? My new buddy Volken.


Well it can be kindergarten duck lullaby, but still nothing to do with Slovenia.

Hahahahaha,

Peace.

I will even take you to Talledega. I know it is 2 mpg but you would enjoy it. Mauleskyrocket is now the friend of Volken. My buddy. Talledega. You can meet Rusty Wallace. You can sing the U.S. National Anthem. You will see some of our troops with the flag. Our President even shows up sometimes. Trust me good old Volken--you are really a good old boy.


Much obliged mauleskyrocket,

San Francisco and New England,...my nr.1 spot in states, but will
do, yes sir, Fly me to the moon when I visit you soon :)

Night.

Talledega baby. Come on loosen up. The wall is down. Very nice ladies at Talledega! I think they will like you. I will introduce you! I am your new friend. There is a nightspot we can go to with the ladies nearby. Ok? My buddy. Cool Volken.

mauleskyrocket don't seem to be very open minded...

oh ! I'm French (aïe, I'll take some things in my face ! :D)

mauleskyrocket don't seem to be very open minded...

oh ! I'm French (aïe, I'll take some things in my face ! :D)


Enfin mon ami Stefanel :)
Tous amis.


All friends now ;-)

I hope I do not anger because it is not my purpose. Here are facts re my car:
1) The mileage figures are nonsense. If you use the air (90F) and if you do not become a road hazard---you get about 38 mpg.
2) You only get the advertised mileage if you use no air --stay under 60--and accelerate so slowly that the CVT hits its highpoint very early and you are a road hazard.
3) With an 11 gallon tank--aside from fuel cost--your range is not as good as a Lexus with a big tank and a 22mpg cruise.
4) A VW TDI is definitely better if you want good mileage with normal driving.
5) The fuel consumption readout drives one crazy.
6) People with Kerry stickers think you are like them.
Well I own one---but!

Not all Prius have the same mpg as you. Just go check http://john1701a.com/ and compare your gas economy with his. Also there is www.greenhybrid.com <--where people who drive prius DO use the air conditioning and still achieve over 50 mpg. And you are right, the mileage figures are nonsense because they are outdates. However, people are still achieving over 50 mpg and anything around 40 is still REALLY GOOD gas economy! Your range might be limited not because of an 11 tank capacity, but because of the bladder in the tank that causes confusion. Also, isn't the TDI slower than the Prius? I think I read that somewhere. The fuel consumption readout doesn't seem that confusing either. It's a simple graph showing 2 figures: Amount of energy used, and amount of energy that was regenerated. That's all, and it's not that hard to decipher.

haha and for the kerry thing.. i dont know. maybe its because we environmentalists don't like the whole drilling in alaska for oil deal.

Have you tried comparing your Prius' conditions with other Prius?
such as temperature, TIRE PRESSURE (which should be above 40 to get better mpg), ENGINE OIL (which should ONLY be 4 L or else you will lose mpg there), etc.?

If you could list all those statistics, it would help determine why you are losing performance and mpg. 38 mpg does not seem normal AT ALL compared to most everyone else's figures. Someone who was driving under your condition #2, where he was under 60 mph most of the time... achieved over 70 mpg for his tanks.

I also owned the Insight and found it similar. The fundamental difference is that the TDI underestimates its mpg sticker under NORMAL driving (meaning not worrying re an eggshell accelerator) while the Insight/Prius way overestimate the mpg UNLESS one drives so oriented to mileage that, at least for me driving is no longer enjoyable. I site a reference earlier which is undeniable. The rating systems for mpg are simply not accurate for these hybrid cars.
As far as the environmental thing---that is tongue in cheek PARTLY. I think all that effort would be far better oriented by both parties toward using tax abatements to encourage better mpg from all cars. The fact is the Europeans are smarter on these issues. The same car that in the U.S. has a 3.5 liter engine can be bougth in Europe with a 2 liter engine and far better economy. That is the frame of mind we have to get into. I think Volken would also agree with this.

I found in my experience with my own car that when i try to drive in order to save gas i just end up losing more gas :-\

That is the frame of mind we have to get into. I think Volken would also agree with this.

Let me extend this in simple observation before I comment state in Europe.

There is an old sage proverb since ancient times of philosophy : Government you have is government you deserve.

This is the essence to understand evolutionary merits
of certain society development in relation to the world they live and responsibility for the same.

Just for the moment consider that we are UFO visiting the earth and would like to see how advanced is this Earth civilization. First we observe were is the peak of the power and reflection of all associated elements of this power and how wise is the same employed. Does it benefit humanity or shaping uncertain environment for future generations?

We look at US, we do not look at nation, we do not look at fates,we do not look at colors for this is all nonsense to value something of more essence.

US is reflection not of Americans but entire world, it shows how does a country behaves when in possession of absolute power. Results are very sad indeed.

You all see present news and you will see more in near future considering shameful actions in relation to environment. There is no national program to lead to more reasonable behave with energy resources, to use less meat, Only half of the US meat import from poorest countries could feed rest of the third world.

They say there is no food. There was always enough food for entire humanity, it is lack of honest distribution that is always lacking.

You will tomorrow eat your hamburger (I hope not for you health) and you will probably watch TV, you will accidentally switch to same coverage of hunger dying people in Africa, thinking why are they so unfortunate not knowing, that it is you who have taken their bite
with your deadly meal. There are plantations with soldiers in Africa, protected only for cows, the same travel to you, for your meal!

Take India, 3hd exporter of rice in the world and they have their own shortage to feed too many people.Food chains and pharmaceutical ones are destroying tons of food and medications just for economical reasons,better position.

So we as UFO we ask ourselves how is this possible that poorest countries are feeding those who are wealthy? Simple, politic and power,and absolute power.

There is also another sage proverb that is reflecting state in US that many US folks understand every day more and more : ABSOLUTE POWER IS ABSOLUTE CORRUPTION.

Those of you US folks who are reading this and think, look how he is criticizing our country,you couldn't be more wrong. It is not US that I criticize it is world as we know that I criticize.

US is just reflection how people behave when there is evolutionary gap between technology and spirituality. US spends largest astronomical amounts for military when have their own social problems and issues (like any other country) in the world that has only one superpower.

Take a pilot, take a single plane. If pilot doesn't fly over a certain period of time, he must pass all verifications again.

If airplane doesn't fly for exact period of time, same airplane is not allowed for safety to do so until all necessary safety and service routines are checked and verified. Another proverb : Most expensive airplane is one that is not flying. Try to observe this from higher scene, from military one.

Every year, more hundreds of billions of $,..more airplanes, tanks and so on.

How can they afford this if they never employ situation to use this , this is the essence of "modern" wars :
Invent one !

My point : This is not America, this is present evolutionary reflection of humankind.

Give any county no matter how small the same power and funds, give them just a little bit of time and they will behave just the same.

It is the power , absolute power that makes all the difference in responsibility, in today's world.

Absolute power today means (politics,diplomacy,environment) ZERO responsibility today.

From this perspective, choosing the political candidate in the system that generates private interests of small group of people is nothing but charade. Choosing your candidate is nothing but venture shaping your state of mind, that you can actually choose, when in reality, everything is already chosen for you.

From this vista of present reality, as long as the people have narrow perspective and knowledge of the most delicate and important issues of life, culture, environment and politics, they will create such leaders,
leaders you see today. Sad echoes of evolution.

So when you understand this, then you know environment has no party because it a common essence that surround interest of all people equally.

As for Kerry, he is already chosen to be next man to lead (where?) your country.

He is from what I hear Monsanto player. (Multinational company, nr.1 enemy of the environment)

Same company that is funding present junior

I even hear from US friend who coincidentally is private detective, Kerry and Bush are distant relatives.

So environment is only political phrase, a magnet if you will for those that really care for the same.

As for relation to Europe's state of energy?

What worries me is aggressive campaigns to sell more diesel (politics) in Europe as it is.

Both Alfa Romeo (JTS), VW (FSI) and Audi (FSI) already proven with new Benz engines it is possible to make equally saving engines like diesel, but with generation cleaner and environment friendlier ones.

But this is not commercialized, only those who understand this will buy this engine.

Rest of them will watch and be attracted with aggressive Diesel commercials, all because group of people decided to make more money. So same sad story. After all, why would anyone need to know exact facts about environment when their governments should make that for them, right?

Well, in our present world sadly, governments are just a different name for companies.

So I say, lets be all happy Toyota made this Prius, drive it be informative to potential future customers.

Other brands will have to make theirs as well.

Even the greatest changes come from a small paths, small or big steps, they all count.

Consider this and be happy while you drive your freshly washed Prius on the sunny road curving into green bliss, and life is a pure undistorted joy.

Volken baby, I didn't know your a deep stream. Can you at least tell us what country you live in so that we have some context? You said it is not France and I sure hope not Canada. Anyway this is your friend Mauleskyrocket.

Volken baby, I didn't know your a deep stream. Can you at least tell us what country you live in so that we have some context? You said it is not France and I sure hope not Canada. Anyway this is your friend Mauleskyrocket.

Spam away from me such details I send to PM to thy :)

You intrigued me when you said you previously owned Insight.

I always considered this design very chic and very stylish in decent modern way.

Only reason that kept me away was battery management (not advanced as with Prius) and being a two seater. Very sexy two seater indeed, but I declined.

What made you decide to sell yours?

Another thing that I love with Insight (yes I know to most of you folks this is irrelevant) is manual gear !

Yes I will do things for cleaner globe, but I don't have to pretend I would like to have manual gear inside Prius.

I always feel with automatic as if my hands are tied.

This manual habit is so strong that even on Alfa Romeo selespeed and Audi models, they change gears directly via buttons on wheel, this be all fine, it offers attractive dynamic and very communicative drive.

Still, on any given day, rain or shine manual gear will do for me just fine. :)

Volken. You avoid where you are from.
Re the Insight, it had a very hard ride and the shifting had to be very rapid to a high gear to get good mileage. I live in a hilly are and this resulted in me frequently being a brick in the road. If I drove normally the mpg was not as good as a TDI. If I ran the AC the mpg dropped drastically The tires and suspension were very hard riding.
Now pari pasu with this I owned TDI's. They could be driven normally with air and gave better mpg. I became very unhappy with the attitude of VWNA re their cars and it has become bad enough that I have sold them.
I believe a low sulphur diesel is the answer--with a small engine.The Hybrids must be put in prospective re their true mileage and their really boring driving requirements to obtain good mileage.

Nah, Low sulphur diesel hybrid. DUH

Volken. You avoid where you are from.
Re the Insight,


Not at all, you should read your private messages more often :)


TDI has high torque, yes, but price is high, (environment)

But you have now with your Prius more torque then I had on my late Audi A6 (V6)

You can read my horror true story of this Audi here : http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=175986


Sad to hear about your Insight, I always liked this design.

How good was the quality of interior?

How good compared to Prius?

So have you lost too much of Insight's value, since you sold the same so soon?

Nah, Low sulphur diesel hybrid. DUH


you said it. one post less for me :)

I don't know about all this French hymn stuff, but I have had my 2004 Prius for 5 months and have filled the tank about 6 times. I leave the lights and a/c on (this is New Orleans and it is nearly always hot) and I get 36-39 mpg per tank of gas.

If I drove like a lol (little old lady) maybe I would get higher mpg for a tank, but I don't want to die of old age while going to work. Nearly all my driving is stop and go, which defeats the higher mpg cruising ability of the car.

I don't know about all this French hymn stuff, but I have had my 2004 Prius for 5 months and have filled the tank about 6 times. I leave the lights and a/c on (this is New Orleans and it is nearly always hot) and I get 36-39 mpg per tank of gas.

If I drove like a lol (little old lady) maybe I would get higher mpg for a tank, but I don't want to die of old age while going to work. Nearly all my driving is stop and go, which defeats the higher mpg cruising ability of the car.

So is it safe to assume you like the car, all considered?

mauleskyrocket (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=129031) , waiting for your reply. :)

All these posts plus the Gov. admission (see my ref) simply underscore that the Prius is grossly overstated relative to it's true mpg. The TDI wins the mpg hands down. Many other cars come near it. So it ultimately is a political call. If a person feels they are saving the planet then I think they should drive one. If not, it is a poor choice. Volken, where are you from?

So is it safe to assume you like the car, all considered?

Absolutely. The coolest thing is the Bluetooth phone feature. I tell my friends that basically the Prius is a computer with wheels attached.

All these posts plus the Gov. admission (see my ref) simply underscore that the Prius is grossly overstated relative to it's true mpg. The TDI wins the mpg hands down. Many other cars come near it. So it ultimately is a political call. If a person feels they are saving the planet then I think they should drive one. If not, it is a poor choice. Volken, where are you from?

Dear god,...mauleskyrocket,

Please could you finally go to your private messages, there is reply waiting for you since last week !!!

I have just seen new Volkswagen Lupo 1.4FSI (105PS) almost 1.5 litter
more economical then Prius !!!!

This is better performance then any Diesel as well.

Same engine is inside new Audi A2 also.

FSI is future of Benz engines proving there is way to be economical
like Diesel, but without Diesel dirt.

Absolutely. The coolest thing is the Bluetooth phone feature. I tell my friends that basically the Prius is a computer with wheels attached.

I'm really glad to hear you like your Prius.

So do I hear praise of might be Prius 3 owner as well? :)

Sorry, but what's a Prius 3?

a third generation prius. aka new design, 2007

a third generation prius. aka new design, 2007

Exactement. :)


I have posted this some time ago.

But I have again heard from very concrete Toyota source, they are toying with idea to make Prius also available in some combination of latest or to come Cellica body.

They would like to appeal in sportier segment as well.

But when?..?

http://tomy.myphotos.cc/albums/funnypics/greenpeace.jpg


dIESEl :(

you guys ever hear of biodiesel? people are doing wonderful things with vegetable oil combined with diesel. and it's either free or very close. not sure of tailpipe emissions, though

you guys ever hear of biodiesel? people are doing wonderful things with vegetable oil combined with diesel. and it's either free or very close. not sure of tailpipe emissions, though


Unfortunately this is just a sand in public eyes.

They started first using and promoting this in Austria.

Yes, there is potential in this,?but ultimately it is not earth friendly from final perspective.

If everyone would keep their oil from cooking and then collect this in dedicated reservoirs and then fill this in their cars then partly this thing would work. But this ended sooner then people even considered
(some do collect oil and save but this is small percentage) doing this.

So now they are making and planing special plantations for seeds dedicated for this bio oil,

In the world that is deliberately destroying food, this is complete nonsense and makes no difference in ecology at all. So Fuel Cell?Hydrogen,CNG,Hybrid,are way to path.

There is also "compressed air" technology, completely ready for use, but industry have actually purchased the same just to be able to delete it for next 20 years. Sad world indeed, where Oil is worth the blood.

I heard that Toyota will make their next Supra a Hybrid! Hopefully the HP numbers will be like the previous Supras.

To date compressed air technology has been a failure. Simply put the connection between temperature and molecularpressure is an immense problem. There is no doubt that the ultimate answer for now is low sulphur diesel fuel used with very economical diesel engines. Vw has gone the wrong direction with this and their common rail diesels get lower mileage than the older models. The Hybrid movement will stall after Bush is elected because it is more of a political statement in this country for Kerry. The fact that their (the hubrid) real mileage is so much lower than the advertized mileage has doomed the Hybrid.

To date compressed air technology has been a failure. Simply put the connection between temperature and molecularpressure is an immense problem. There is no doubt that the ultimate answer for now is low sulphur diesel fuel used with very economical diesel engines. Vw has gone the wrong direction with this and their common rail diesels get lower mileage than the older models. The Hybrid movement will stall after Bush is elected because it is more of a political statement in this country for Kerry. The fact that their (the hubrid) real mileage is so much lower than the advertized mileage has doomed the Hybrid.


Oh, this compressed air, made by Swiss engineer is working and is bulletproof.

In fact they are selling for small markets as engines for agriculture, all tested and ultra reliable.

Car Industry, however all share interest in sale cake, and this is way they can't afford this technology.

It would upset present money making system.

Diesel is only future for increase of more lung cancer associated symptoms.

FSI, and alike direct Petrol direct injection are present future.

Hybrids are fine but when looking from point of energy, they are still in the same basket of regular cars because their power is still created from petrol.

In perfect world, by energy of wind made power then distributed to Prius would make Hybrids truly oil independed

For now this is the future : http://vwvortex.rely.net/artman/uploads/077__scaled_600.jpg

Bush will never again be elected because what his daddy promised to him, same Monsanto promised to Kerry, you are our man. You can quote me on that, and remember when you go back to these lines when Kerry is next man to swim like Bush in pool of corporate interest. This is allready decided,votes are but the game for masses.

Volken. Stop it. Of the following, you can be sure. The Prius is not what is advertized. The U.S. is the greatest country on the planet. The U.S. military is the best on the planet and God Bless all of them. Compressed air is not the answer. The Prius is not the answer. Kerry and pinkos are not the answer. All this should be self evident to an intelligent person like you. Why not start a poll and see if others agree.

Yes, the US is the greatest country in the planet, the rest of the world is living in a dump. Oh, and nor the Prius nor compressed air is the answer. Diesel is the answer !!

Volken. Stop it. Of the following, you can be sure. The Prius is not what is advertized. The U.S. is the greatest country on the planet. The U.S. military is the best on the planet and God Bless all of them. Compressed air is not the answer. The Prius is not the answer. Kerry and pinkos are not the answer. All this should be self evident to an intelligent person like you. Why not start a poll and see if others agree.


Well, you try to present your own thoughts about Bush as whole US.

I don't think so.

Even with Gore it was 50/50 votes and with votes scam daddy secured votes to his Junior.

As for size, I consider myself citizen of the world, never cared about limitless observations of nations, nationality and so on. This is all tribal vocabulary of limitations humanity presently reside.

I don't have any friend in states that supports your man and rest of the world is appalled with present reputation of this great country, and all thanks to this man, your man.

You polls show lower support then ever for his actions.

So please, if you have your own reasons and agendas to love him do so, but please don't lose objectiveness to presence and present your own feelings as feelings of entire US.

None of the candidates are good choice because they are all chosen by companies and lobbies.

Kerry is no better, after all he is relative to Bush. So I couldn't care less who would be the one.

But Kerry is chosen, I look forward to see your responses when he is elected, but I gather you will avoid then to reply to message about this topic, that is for sure !

Mauleskyrocket, you should try to expand your horizons by traveling more and perhaps learn one language, then you will understand that whenever in history a country starts talking : "Entire world is against us" - Problems lays inside that country.

Yes, the US is the greatest country in the planet, the rest of the world is living in a dump. Oh, and nor the Prius nor compressed air is the answer. Diesel is the answer !!

Auto_newb,

Your writing abilities are too advanced for me.

"In the planet" ????

Yes, grammar can be tricky when in state of arrogance. :)

Perch.

Perch.

Where exactly, or perhaps another comment of supremacy?

Hey I was being sarcastic, you know what I meant!

Hey I was being sarcastic, you know what I meant!

Well pardon my comment then.

To some people TV is only source of shaping their knowledge about world we live, sadly.

Your comment reflected (then) such person.

I'm glad I was wrong. :)

Have a happy fourth everyone. You too Volken.

Have a happy fourth everyone. You too Volken.


Same to you Mauleskyrocket :)

OK, owners of Prius vehicles out there known and unknown here.
Actual drivers, owners that do actually own and drive this car.

Could someone clarify autonomy of Prius based not on raw petrol consumption but also how much does electro-motor benefits overall savings in mileage?

For example, I hear you can drive up to 25-30 km/h speed on electro motor engine, but for how long?

What is the longest period you could (with moderation) drive on electro-engine, before petrol would switch in charge?

Also Mauleskyrocket, we would like to see a few pictures of your baby Prius.