We want more!

First off let me say that I love the look of the Tiburon, but the proformance sucks. What are you guys at Hyundai thinking? Why is your 6 cylinder so slow? What happend to that mid engine concept that everybody loved? The messure for any proformance import is if it can beat a Mustang GT or the Z28 Camaro in the 1/4 mile and through the cones, if it cannot do that leave it home. It just becomes a plaything for posers that make a joke of real import tuners. Does anybody agree with me??

your an idiot. that's what i think.
if you want more
plz come and get some.

the whole import scene is that you tune a car....
you add things to it...
domestics have never been in that alley... domestic car cos.... try and make their cars as good aspossible...
imports aremade to be upgraded.... you want performance.. put money in your car.....
and teh mustang gt and camaro... are way outa the price range of he tib.. so you have no clue what youre arguing abotu anf know nothing of the tib or anything to do with cars it looks like.... so dotn make stupid arguemnts.... and dont try and act liek you know what youre talking abotu cause you jus proved to everyone tyou dont... so if you wanna learn ask questions.. if not.. dont post here.. cause if youre lookingto start a fight... youll lose... horribly

TibsBeatALL and Nisco are completely right. :iceslolan

Jared, what the hell are you thinking coming onto a forum FULL of people who own the car and bitching about it? I mean seriously.

My Two Cents :2cents:

That makes you a :loser: and REALLY :screwy: . BAD IDEA :nono:

The reason we buy true imports like the Tiburon is so later we can add mods and compoents for it. Seriously, what the hell are you thinking? Comparing the Z28 and the Stang to it? That's is just stupid.... Have you ever driven a Tib?....

heh, if he test drove one he wouldnt be talkin smack...

god im tired of these morons...

first off, if you dont like the car, why waste your time typing?
its prolly cause you have no life, and just sit on the internet jerking off to pictures of mustangs and camaros, loser

second off,

msrp of 03 v6 tibby= 19149
1/4 mile time= 15.3

msrp of 02 stang= 23220
1/4 mile time= 15.1

msrp of 02 z28= 22830
1/4 mile time = 13.3

and the tib would crush both on the track. with the 4000 dollars you save, you could buy a turbo and other things and blow the doors off the both cars in the 1/4 mile.

also, none of use our at or from hyundai. we are just owners, we dont have anything to do with what hyundai does.

the whole import scene is that you tune a car....
you add things to it...
domestics have never been in that alley... domestic car cos.... try and make their cars as good aspossible...
imports aremade to be upgraded.... you want performance.. put money in your car.....
and teh mustang gt and camaro... are way outa the price range of he tib.. so you have no clue what youre arguing abotu anf know nothing of the tib or anything to do with cars it looks like.... so dotn make stupid arguemnts.... and dont try and act liek you know what youre talking abotu cause you jus proved to everyone tyou dont... so if you wanna learn ask questions.. if not.. dont post here.. cause if youre lookingto start a fight... youll lose... horribly


Wow I thought that my spelling was bad! First off the Camaro is not way out of that price range. The 6 cylinder is about the same and the late model Z28 base price was only 22k new. As for me not knowing anything about cars please come and debate me on the technical forum. I will show you who does not know what they are talking about. I have been studying for three years trying to learn everything there is to know about cars so that I can open my own buisness.

OK yall think that I am just complaining about nothing. Fine then prove me wrong! Who here has the fastest Tiburon? Can you beat an Evo? Surely someone here has a 6 cylinder that can beat that turbo 4 right? 13.06 in the 1/4 mile 0-60 in 4.3-4.6 secoonds depending on the year model. I would venture to say that 99% of Tiburons are nothing more than posers and anyone who actualy made a true speed machine out of it could have done it much easier/cheaper with another car. The fastest Tiburon that I have ever seen had a mere 250hp, and even that car could not match up to an Evo. So before you attack me listen to what I am saying and look it up for yourselves. Hyundai needs to give us somthing with real proformance potential. Oh and that Mustang 1/4 mile time that you quoted is the 6 cylinder not the GT.

OK yall think that I am just complaining about nothing. Fine then prove me wrong! Who here has the fastest Tiburon? Can you beat an Evo? Surely someone here has a 6 cylinder that can beat that turbo 4 right? 13.06 in the 1/4 mile 0-60 in 4.3-4.6 secoonds depending on the year model. I would venture to say that 99% of Tiburons are nothing more than posers and anyone who actualy made a true speed machine out of it could have done it much easier/cheaper with another car. The fastest Tiburon that I have ever seen had a mere 250hp, and even that car could not match up to an Evo. So before you attack me listen to what I am saying and look it up for yourselves. Hyundai needs to give us somthing with real proformance potential. Oh and that Mustang 1/4 mile time that you quoted is the 6 cylinder not the GT.

youre an idiot.. you knwo absolutely nothin of teh korean or american import tuner scene....
everyone knows that forced injection will beat a v6... i dont know what youre trying to prove?
99% of tibs are posers?.. what the fuck are you talking about?... do oyu have a reason for makin posts iin here or are you another tool trying to start shit against tiburon owners?... the fatsest tib... is in korea... pushing 3 times as much as that... :rolleyes: and the tib you saw musta been a v6 with a super charger...
and evos and wrxs and srt-4s arent anythign special... peopel keep talkin 1/4 mile times and traps and 0-60
its a known fact the tib can beat any of those cars at 75+ mph... if youre gonna race make it worth it even a tib can beat an s 2000 in the 1/8
youve been studying cars for 3 years.. congrat iim happy for you... :loser: ... but know what youre talking about... you apparently dont know anything about korean cars... and korean cars are different from japanese cars and THE CARS YOU COMPARE TO THE TIB ARE DOMESTICS...
not even in teh same class....
the evo/ wrx/srt-4... are all forced induction... TURBO'D and the tib isnt.. unless you do it aftermarketly.... we dont need another wanna be know it all dick on these boards....
and you dont know jack about imports.... :nono: stick with your domestics :lol:

im sick and tired of fucking morons that think they know everything. ya got more to learn pal.

the website i was getting the info off of said it was the gt...oh well.

over 250hp...no problem
http://hyundaiperformance.com/forums/topic.php?t=37042

you want high hp tibs... check this out. those are on stock blocks too. one is even on a stock tranny.
http://hyundaiperformance.com/forums/topic.php?t=25379

and what about the 600+ twin engine tib. 10 second 1/4 mile times on stock wheels and tires.
http://www.ecanfix.com/~hyperform/matt/Videos/tibouron_clip.mov

another thing you dont know, is that the i4 beta engine is better than the v6 delta engine in the tib when running high hp loads. looks like someone needs some more studying if you think a v6 is automatically better than a i4 engine.

the main thing you dont know though, is that hyundais are bought by most because they are cheap and efficient economy cars... so people that buy them generally dont have the money to tune them to there potential. poeple in korea however, have found the potential and it is very high. its only a matter of time before you see more tibs in the states with killer hp.

what is the point of Jared's posts? If it's to prove that he's a moron that likes to bitch about stuff. Mission Sucess. I mean seriously from a person who doesn't seem to own a Tib, to say that 99% are posers seems pretty uninformed and stupid

Also I'm guessing that "We" means "you, the idiot"

Also I'm guessing that "We" means "you, the idiot"



I am not the idiot here all I said was that these things needed more power because the don't match up to their compatition, and that is a fact that is not subject to your ideas. Check your specs if you don't beleve me. for crying out loud you cannot even match the stupid neon turbo which is in your price range. You guys have yet to bring one decent defense to the table. Even the muscle car nuts can do that. And one of you thinks that creating boost pressure is called "forced injection"!!! It is called forced induction get it right, I did not come here looking for a fight I was just here to see if any of you agree with me, but since you want to make it into a fight I will thrash all of you by myself. Because I do know what I am talking about, and I have only seen one of you say somthing slightly intelegent.

Hey Tibby thanks for the links, although 288hp is impressive; the 1/4 mile times are weak. An Evo runs a 13.06 compared to the mid 14s that this Tiburon runs. Even a stock neon turbo can run a 14 flat.

the quarter times were weak cause it was his first time at the track. you also gotta remember that none of those cars can boast a ten year warranty.http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon12.gif

and i messed up on my first post... the msrp of the v6 tibby is 18000.

Tiburon's run 15's Jared_80. To be exact the Tiburon is in with it's competitors. Put a turbo on the Tiburon and see what it does to the Neon. Eclipse Spyder is in Tiburon Competition and the Tiburon times in all events are better than the spyder... The Celica GT-S top speed 134, tiburon 137.. Celica with 10 more HP on the Tiburon only gets the Tiburon in the quarter mile by .2 10th's of a second... 1 slip up by the driver in the celica and the tiburon would murder it.. So check your stats first cause the Tiburon is well in competition with competitors.. Here is the stats of both cars, look at the slight difference in them both.

2003 Celica GT-S

Base price : $21,970

Engine : 4 cylinder, DOHC, front engine FWD
Displacement : 1,796 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 6-spd manual, 4-spd Sportshift
Fuel economy : city - 23 mpg(manual and automatic)
highway - 32 mpg(manual), 30 mpg(automatic)

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent double wishbones
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 180hp @ 7600 rpm
Torque : 130 lb-ft @ 6800 rpm
Redline : 7800 rpm

Top speed : 134 mph
0-60 mph : 7.2 sec.(manual)
0-¼ mile : 15.4 sec @ 91.6 mph
60-0 braking distance : 120 ft.

Curb Weight : 2500-2580 lbs
Overall length : 170.5 in.
Wheelbase : 102.4 in.
Overall Width : 68.3 in.
Height : 51.4 in.

2003 Tiburon GT

Engine : V6, DOHC, front engine FWD
Displacement : 2,656 cc
Valve : 24 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 6-spd manual, 5-spd manual, 4-spd automanual
Fuel economy : city - 18-20 mpg
highway - 26 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson struts
R - Multilink
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 170hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque : 181 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline : 6500 rpm

Top speed : 137 mph
0-60 mph : 7.2 sec.(manual)
0-¼ mile : 15.6 sec @ 88.8 mph
60-0 braking distance : 122 ft

Curb Weight : 3023 lbs
Overall length : 173.0 in.
Wheelbase : 99.6 in.
Overall Width : 69.3 in.
Height : 52.3 in.

0-60 is 7.2 for both cars

Tiburon's run 15's Jared_80. To be exact the Tiburon is in with it's competitors. Put a turbo on the Tiburon and see what it does to the Neon. Eclipse Spyder is in Tiburon Competition and the Tiburon times in all events are better than the spyder... The Celica GT-S top speed 134, tiburon 137.. Celica with 10 more HP on the Tiburon only gets the Tiburon in the quarter mile by .2 10th's of a second... 1 slip up by the driver in the celica and the tiburon would murder it.. So check your stats first cause the Tiburon is well in competition with competitors..

First off who is comparing it to the Celica??? The Celica a good car and all but on the track it is not much either. Secondly .2 seconds is alot of time in the 1/4 mile when you are racing for money. Third even if I was comparing it to the Celica the top speed in most proformance cars is electronicly regulated, so the 134mph top speed of the Celica does not mean anything once you replace the fuel pump (which you would have to do anyway if you were adding boost) As far as putting a turbo on a Tiburon you would void your wonderful warenty that you are so proud of because Hyundai does not have an in-house proformance department like Toyota (TRD) or Nissan (NISSMO). Also their engines are not turbo proven like the 4g-63, RB26DETT, SW20, 2JZ-GTE, or the SR20DET. I have never seen a Hyundai put out 800+whp on stock internals(I have seen a Toyota do that) and I don't think that I ever will. Lancers are frequently tuned to past 500hp and since they can put that power to the ground (AWD and LSD) they can do things that no Tiburon could ever hope to do. Oh as far as price goes by time you turbo your car and install a LSD you will have spent at leased as much as the new Evo RS costs, and you will still loose to the AWD traction. I hate to sound mean but I doubt that even with 10k in mods you could take a J-spec Evo and he still has way more tuning potential.

First off who is comparing it to the Celica???

you said "real import tuners" and alot of people think celicas and eclipses are benchmarks of import tuner cars.

1) the tib would run VERY VERY close to any of your domestic cars on a real track while being 5k less than the stang gt and 3k less than the z28.

2) the neon turbo is not stupid, and could run with any one of those domestics, stock. with the extra money saved off the msrp, it wouldnt even be a contest.

3) .2 seconds is not much time at all. remember, these are people testing these cars, not machines. im sure those times were taken after 3 runs TOPS, where even the best drivers dont have enough time to "feel" the car and run it to its best time.

4) you were comparing it in its stock form, thats why i was talking about the warranty. i was showing that it was near the other cars performance-wise, with a 100000 mile warranty.

5) i dont even know why you are comparing it to the evo, its like a bidgillion dollars.

6) gimme half the difference between the i4 tibby(16000) and the j spec evo (around 36000 im guessing) and ill show you what the true tiburon engine can do.

7) the stock internals on a toyota that can do that are off of a 40000+ dollar car. where the hell does that fall in with a tiburon?

8)i4 tibby= 16000
turbo kit(includes strengthened internals) = 3500
LSD = 800
heavy clutch kit = 600
exhaust = 400
haltech = 800
boost contolller= 300

that will give you well over 250 whp. under high boost, prolly 320+.
all for 22000

if you dont believe me on the prices, i can post websites for you, just dont have the time now.

9) the v6 is not meant for high hp. its meant for good stock power, not to be drastically tuned. it wasnt built for that. the bottom end bolts rip right outta the block at around 250 whp cause they have a torque spec rating of about 12lbs.ft. look at its beta 4 cylinder cousin though, its a whole nother story.

10) the v6 tib's engine is only 2.7 liters.

so that is 67 hp per liter

stang gt= 56 hp per liter

z28 = 54 hp per liter

who has the better engine technology?

see now thats a man who knows his shit.. unlike a stupid fuckin tool like someone on these threads who thinks hes the shit.... no names mentioned
:screwy:

You said it best tibby that V6 was not ment for serous tuning, that is why I think that it does not belong in a sports car. Though you are smoking crack if you think that the Celica or the Eclips is the benchmark for tuners!!! Have you ever even seen a Supra, an Evo (28,000 not a bagillion and the faster RS version will be about 2k less)have you seen a 300ZX, how about a NSX, what about a WRX?!? The Celica and Eclipse (with the exception of the GSX model) are the cars of choice for posers not real tuners, when you understand that then I can teach you more. Please note that the Japanese rarly tune the Celica or the Eclipse, because they are not that good for compatition level proformance, just like the Tiburon. Oh and to get that 4 banger to 300hp you would have to give it over 15psi of boost!!! Show me a turbo kit that will do that reliably for $3500! Even if you could do that you would have to modify your diff if you wanted to put that any of that power to the ground and that is another grand after instalation.

you said "real import tuners" and alot of people think celicas and eclipses are benchmarks of import tuner cars.

notice how i said "a lot of people". here in the states they do think that. i never said i specifically did. how many people do you know of that have a supra, nsx, evo, wrx, or 300zx? if its a lot ill start being your friend. how can they be a benchmark with so little produced?


Even if you could do that you would have to modify your diff if you wanted to put that any of that power to the ground and that is another grand after instalation.

i put LSD on the list. look closely. and "real" tuners dont pay somone to do the installation, they do it themselves.


Oh and to get that 4 banger to 300hp you would have to give it over 15psi of boost!!! Show me a turbo kit that will do that reliably for $3500!.

check out the turbo kit for the beta
http://www.speed-factor.com/

2600 no pistons. get some pistons http://www.kspec.com/list.php?ac_id=38&ai_id=136

some rods http://www.pauter.com/billet_rods.htm

sell the safc and turbo timer from the kit, buy a haltech system.

your engine is now a lot stronger and your at 3500 with close to 300hp at the crank. the garret turbo can push 15pounds no problem. its the haltech that is the key though.

just wondering... what kind of car do you own?


now leave me alone... gotta write a 12 page research paper by tomorrowhttp://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon8.gifhttp://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon10.gif

Also I have to say that there are other types of competitive driving angles that the Tib is a great contender in besides drag time. It's a great slalom car and does great on spirited backroads. (Talking about the I4 and the GT). So far I fail to see the point in Jared real arguement if he really knows how to drive his own car. I mean seriously the bottom line is, if you don't own the car and want to prove that your car is better, just go out on the street and beat it yourself in a competive race of any type.

Jared you stated that the tib wasnt with it's competitors and i simply showed that it was but tibby laid that shit out the ko-rect way.. Face it, the tib has got it. Just cause it isnt a Honda or Nissan doesnt mean it's not in with competition. Also there is a turbo and supercharger for the Tiburon that will not void your warranty..

who really wants a wrx... evo... or srt-4 to tune?.. its already built up?... theres honestly not much more to do other than upgrade them....
i can get my tib v6 super charged to close to 300 whp... yeah thats more horses than those turbo'd monters...
so you really dont know shit...
i knwo a guy who has taken alpine's super charger and tweeked it... he made one to get to 250 whp... and his own is close to 300... so you really dont know too much abotu anything.. you know facts... and facare not always true...
the mazdarx-8 keeps losing horse power from what mazda stated it had...
i wouldnt have fun tuning an evo/wrx/srt-4... i would have more fun puttin my time and money in a car that is not only better looking but in the end has better all around value

and with the 6 grand id spend on the super charger and a brand new v6.. id still have more money to spend to equal the total value of any of teh cars you keep mentioning...
:loser:

whoa man...
did he jus compare the tibby to a NSX and a Supra??
uh........
i don't think you realize the price differences.
u were on the losing side from the start.
u jus made an ass of yourself and i'm totally happy for you cuz ur an idiot.
geez wat a cracker.

whoa man...
did he jus compare the tibby to a NSX and a Supra??
uh........
i don't think you realize the price differences.
u were on the losing side from the start.
u jus made an ass of yourself and i'm totally happy for you cuz ur an idiot.
geez wat a cracker.



I did not compare the Supra or the NSX to the Tib; read the prevous quotes. I said that the Eclipse and Celica were not the "benchmark" of tuners. Don't twist what I am saying.

Jared you stated that the tib wasnt with it's competitors and i simply showed that it was but tibby laid that shit out the ko-rect way.. Face it, the tib has got it. Just cause it isnt a Honda or Nissan doesnt mean it's not in with competition. Also there is a turbo and supercharger for the Tiburon that will not void your warranty..



Ok yall keep talking about the tib like it is a great tuner car so show me ONE that can match a stock Evo in the slolom, or 0-60, better yet try to find one that can do that for less than the stock evo costs. I bet that you cannot, and yall can turbocharge thet 4 all you want to but without a LSD you will never get very good 1/4 mile times. The ONLY things that I have seen a tib do very well is look really good sitting still, and having a great warenty.

who really wants a wrx... evo... or srt-4 to tune?.. its already built up?... theres honestly not much more to do other than upgrade them....
i can get my tib v6 super charged to close to 300 whp... yeah thats more horses than those turbo'd monters...
so you really dont know shit...
i knwo a guy who has taken alpine's super charger and tweeked it... he made one to get to 250 whp... and his own is close to 300... so you really dont know too much abotu anything.. you know facts... and facare not always true...
the mazdarx-8 keeps losing horse power from what mazda stated it had...
i wouldnt have fun tuning an evo/wrx/srt-4... i would have more fun puttin my time and money in a car that is not only better looking but in the end has better all around value

and with the 6 grand id spend on the super charger and a brand new v6.. id still have more money to spend to equal the total value of any of teh cars you keep mentioning...
:loser:

OOOOOh so you can max out your V6 to 300hp great, but I have seen Evos putting over 700hp to the ground, on street gas. Now that is true tuning potential, and it unlike the tib has AWD and LSD so it can put that power down in a heartbeat, insted of smoking tires the whole 1/4 mile. I have seen an AWD tib but it was an expensive rally car.

man.. i dont think you realize how new the aftermarket following for teh 03 tib is....
you dun understand that almost everything on this car is new!
it took hyundai long enough to get repsect.. and once they do... people wanna knock it... cause its name is hyundai... repetitive arguements are jus blahh blahh blahh to tib owners.. theyve heard it all before... if you even owned a tib youd see hwo difficult and hwo expensive its been to tune a hyundai... the cars and comanies youve named... all have huge aftermarket following... and teh wrx... ev.. and srt-4 all have factory warranties... even with their turbos.,.. plus you can buy up grade kits.. from teh dealer.....

you keep comparing cars way outa teh price range to teh tib...
youre comparing the tib to a supra and an nsx...

we understand youre not happy with the tib... and your arguments are pointlesss...

in any race.. a real championship race..
teh tib would not even be in teh same class as an evo/wrx/srt4
those all f/i the tib unless it has a turbo wouodnt be in that class itd be in teh n/a catagory

man.. i dont think you realize how new the aftermarket following for teh 03 tib is....
you dun understand that almost everything on this car is new!
it took hyundai long enough to get repsect.. and once they do... people wanna knock it... cause its name is hyundai... repetitive arguements are jus blahh blahh blahh to tib owners.. theyve heard it all before... if you even owned a tib youd see hwo difficult and hwo expensive its been to tune a hyundai... the cars and comanies youve named... all have huge aftermarket following... and teh wrx... ev.. and srt-4 all have factory warranties... even with their turbos.,.. plus you can buy up grade kits.. from teh dealer.....

you keep comparing cars way outa teh price range to teh tib...
youre comparing the tib to a supra and an nsx...

we understand youre not happy with the tib... and your arguments are pointlesss...

in any race.. a real championship race..
teh tib would not even be in teh same class as an evo/wrx/srt4
those all f/i the tib unless it has a turbo wouodnt be in that class itd be in teh n/a catagory


Wow! dude I am nobody to complain about spelling but I had a hard time making out some of those words. You still did not anwser my challange, find me a tib that can take an Evo in the 0-60 or the slolom. I don't care how great your aftermarket folowing is. And some of the cars that I quoted are not out of your price range like the srt-4 which is just a little more. And quit saying that I am comparing the NSX and WRX to the tib :banghead: I just said that the Celica and Eclipse were not the benchmark that sombody clamed they were. If you read this thread you would know that. I have no doubt that the tib is a pretty good car but I am saying that it is not a proformance car, now take on my challenge and prove me wrong or shut up!!!! :p I started this because I like the layout of the tib and I thought that it was a shame that they made it so weak, I did not come here for a fight but if that is the way you want it so be it, I said it before and I will say it again anyone who calls me out will be pubicly thrashed. Oh and yes you are right about the turbos not being in the same class as the tib, but the Eclipse GT, and the 350Z are! And trust me when I say that you will not win anything there! I have seen NA 4 banger that would take your V6 to the cleaners in the same price range! I think that it was SCC a few months ago compared all of the sports cars under 20k and the tib came in DEAD LAST!! Behind the proformance Focus, behind the Mini, behind the Mazdaspeed Protage, behind the srt-4. So what do you have to say about that??? :rofl: :lol: :cwm27: :iceslolan :grinno: :evillol: :icon16: :lol2: Face it you guys just loose any way you look at it! Still don't beleve me that the tib needs work?? Do you want me to rub it in some more or do you give up? You guys are almost as bad as those posers who "tune" civics, who think that 20" crome rims and body kits make a car fast. Do you know what is really sad I am an import fan I drive nothing but imports and even I think that you are dumb. Even the muscle car guys can make a better argument than you! What is wrong with you??

The truth hurts. :evillol:

I bet that you cannot, and yall can turbocharge thet 4 all you want to but without a LSD you will never get very good 1/4 mile times.

OPEN YOUR EYES!!!

Even if you could do that you would have to modify your diff if you wanted to put that any of that power to the ground and that is another grand after instalation.
i put LSD on the list. look closely. and "real" tuners dont pay somone to do the installation, they do it themselves.



THIS GUY IS A MODERATOR MIND YOU. HE KNOWS HIS SHIT!!!

You'd do 11's with some after part mod's. the 0-60 figure is more like 5.x not 4.x, and the 1/4 mile is approximately 13.7.



Ok yall keep talking about the tib like it is a great tuner car so show me ONE that can match a stock Evo in the slolom, or 0-60, better yet try to find one that can do that for less than the stock evo costs. I bet that you cannot, and yall can turbocharge thet 4 all you want to but without a LSD you will never get very good 1/4 mile times.

check this out, without LSD. he has spent under 20,000 alltogether too. 13.4 seconds, bitch. you dont know what you are talking about.
http://hyundaiperformance.com/forums/topic.php?t=36496

i cant make out the 0-60 time, but its prolly equal to the evo.

GOD YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!

scc ranked it #3 in the 2002 eight great rides article

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0204scc_8great03/index.html

GOD YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!

scc ranked it #3 in the 2002 eight great rides article

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0204scc_8great03/index.html


It must have been HCI that I saw it in. Anyway that does not change the fact that you still have not anwserd my challenge a 13.4 will not cut it. And if we use the RS then you are not even close, and as far as your 0-60 I would bet good money that it is not as fast as the Evo unless he was on drag slicks. AWD vs. FWD AWD wins off the line easly. So where is your defence, where is your anwser to my chalenge? You don't have one because it does not exist! Quit telling me what you can do with it and show me. I have yet to see anything that is impressive here. Like I said before the musclecar guys make a much better case than you! :lol:

I await your desprete, bias and assuming anwser to my challenge. :smokin:

that MODERATOR said that the 1/4 mile time of the evo was a 13.7. how will a 13.4 not cut it? wait until he gets his LSD, it wont even be close. and he still will have spent less than 20k. i can see that 0-60 matters in a real track, but in the quarter mile, its all about who crosses the line first.

also, i still dont understand why the hell you are comparing an evo to a tib. the tib is more than 10k dollars less than it. you think cars like the evo are meant for "real" tuners. god your dumb. real tuners do not have the money for those cars. they have to put in a whole lot more effort into making their cheap cars fast. thats the whole point of being a tuner. its all about where you started, and where you are when your finished.

and i DO have one, actually two tibs that i have already posted that meet your challenge, and crush it by 300hp. i guess you have already forgotten about the 600hp tibs i posted huh.

another thing you still have to learn is that awd doesnt beat fwd off the line easily. you see, an AWD drivetrain on a car makes it much more heavier than a FWD. more weight=slower acceleration. put slicks and an LSD on a fwd car and slicks and an LSD on a awd car and the fwd one would win(given the cars are equal).

you apparently still have lots more to learn about the world of tuning. you obviously were suprised when i posted those tibs, as you said they couldnt go over 250hp. that 4cylnder gk tib had 288whp which is well over 300hp at the crank. dont ever underestimate cars that people think arent meant to be tuned. such as this saturn http://www.differentracing.com/multimedia/events/battle_101803/

http://hyundaiperformance.com/forums/topic.php?t=41140

yes it blew, but that was after 100nitrous runs. 12.4 et. bet you never thought a stock saturn engine could do that.

The Tiburon will walk all over an Eclipse GT and the Eclipse Spyder as well. All you can compare is the freaking Evo, WRX and the SRT-4 Which all is TURBO'D! The 350Z will walk over that WRX as well. (not the STI, the regular WRX) You must not realize that there is Tib's in Korea with 700HP easy.. There is one running 8's in a quarter mile.. Put your evo up to that.. Tibs can be tuned to perform just as good or even out-perform any of the cars you just named. People who want to "tune" a car will buy one that has some power but has room for more. This is what a Tib is.. The car has excellent torque and has room for plenty of tuning. Lets take a small amout of parts and see what HP we can come up with off the top of my head..

Stock Tiburon 171 HP

Mussa Cat back Exhaust + 17 HP

Alpine Supercharger + 47.7 HP

Injen CAI + 7 HP

There is about 72HP off of just 3 Mods for about 3800 bucks... 171 + 72 = 243. Roughly 243 HP after those 3 mods and that's just off my head cause my GF is waiting on me to get home cause ima get some ass.. Peace out.

umm....
u said how bout u look at the NSX, Supra, and STI.
if that's not comparing, i don' kno wat is.
if ur asking us to look at it and think. that's asking us to c ompare it.
and plz dont bitch about spelling.
cuz that's stupid. u got nothing important to say. so u bitch about spelling.
and a 13.4 on the quarter will cut it u freaking tard.
the evolution's quarter is at 13.8
stupid ass

another thing I have to add is that the EVO base is around 28 grand (not sure to the letter here), and the Tib runs from 16 to 21 grand (through all of the trims). and if I remember correctly the NSX is like a 90,000 dollar car or something around there. The point is that you're comparing apples to oranges and turning out a funk ass weak arguement.

hehe this is not a "Real tuner" car. hyundai accent. and since you love your precious evo 8 so much...

http://www.eltuque.com/pista/images/galeria/20031126/Picture%20058.jpg
http://www.eltuque.com/pista/images/galeria/20031126/Picture%20059.jpg

that car is daily driven too.

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN :eek7: :iceslolan :smokin:
SO DO YOU THINKN THIS GUY WILL GO THE FUCK AWAY NOW?..or will he try another arguement or stick with this one?

anyone else see that he drives an '87 corolla?

and he's bashing the tiburon???

ehh we dun care abotu him too much..

umm....
u said how bout u look at the NSX, Supra, and STI.
if that's not comparing, i don' kno wat is.
if ur asking us to look at it and think. that's asking us to c ompare it.
and plz dont bitch about spelling.
cuz that's stupid. u got nothing important to say. so u bitch about spelling.
and a 13.4 on the quarter will cut it u freaking tard.
the evolution's quarter is at 13.8
stupid ass



Dang what language was that? And then you want to call me stupid! News flash dimwit the Evo's 1/4 mile is still 13.06 (that is from Motor Trend) quit quoting the worst drivers numbers and look at a real source. I could find some idiot that could not get a tib to 1/4 in 20 seconds if I wanted to, but insted I accept the faster numbers because they used good drivers. MT has good drivers and accurate mesurments so I use them as a refrence, not some internet geek that hapend to picked to run this site. Get some real numbers and then come back to fight. Face it you are fighting a war with no ammo, wait untill next year maby they will make the tib turbocharged or somthing. Oh yea and someone here keeps quoting some 600hp tib, guss what that was nothing but a NOS engine that thing blew up! My challange still stands nobody has anwserd it yet, and I doubt that anybody ever will.

Oh and for anybody that wants to diss my car, get a life that is a great old car it has NEVER left me on the side of the road and it gets 40mpg on the highway (with a carbarator!) which is better than any Hyundai that I know of, so keep talking. Oh yea by the way a hyundai at my workplace broke down Sunday I asked the lady if the car has been giving her much trouble, and she said that she hated that car because it always broke down on her, and it is a new one too.

Oh yea by the way a hyundai at my workplace broke down Sunday I asked the lady if the car has been giving her much trouble, and she said that she hated that car because it always broke down on her, and it is a new one too.


Oh "wah wah". Sometimes that happens. I had a 86 Hyundai Excel that ran for about 10years, "NEVER had to take it to the shop. My family also has a 99 Tiburon. In the almost six years I've had it. Never had to take it to the shop. This 03 will be the same.

But at least we know that we can use his "lady at the workplace" as the determining factor in his losing argument :loser: lol

Oh and for anybody that wants to diss my car, get a life
we won't "diss" your car if you don't "diss" our cars

that is a great old car it has NEVER left me on the side of the road
my car has never died on me, and if it ever does i've got a 10 yr warranty

Oh and for anybody that wants to diss my car, get a life that is a great old car it has NEVER left me on the side of the road and it gets 40mpg on the highway (with a carbarator!) which is better than any Hyundai that I know of, so keep talking. Oh yea by the way a hyundai at my workplace broke down Sunday I asked the lady if the car has been giving her much trouble, and she said that she hated that car because it always broke down on her, and it is a new one too.


now look whos on the defensive... and youre raggin on our cars... and you have a piece of shit...
fuckin hater.....
:rofl:
man youre the one who has to grow up.....
not all hyundais are the same
get back to work you freakin grease moneky and try not to make yourslef look so dumb here

40 MPG per gallon, not too bad.. A guy I work with drove is Hyndai Accent from Texas to Ft Campbell, KY on 13 dollars gas..

But you come here raggin us and you drive a freakin corolla, dude, what were you thinking.

LOL@nisco

i wont diss your car, because i am not like you. i can see potential in any car. i posted that time because you didnt post a 1/4 time untill after three pages, so i went with the first time i found. i have read about some pretty cool sleeper corollas. just fucking open your narrow mind, and believe that cars other than "real tuner" cars are very capable of impressive things. a 13.4 gets very close, with 8000 dollars left to spend. and the 600hp tib was not a nos engine that blew up. it is actually a daily driven turbocharged car. i believe your thinking about the STOCK saturn engine. it did blow, but lasted 100(that is ONE FUCKING HUNDRED) nitrous runs at 12.6 in the quarter mile.


ohhh, and look what i found. right click, save as...

http://www.tiburonturbo.com/pics/2003-30-sept-dyno/video/dyno-289whp-tiburon.wmv

40 MPG per gallon, not too bad.. A guy I work with drove is Hyndai Accent from Texas to Ft Campbell, KY on 13 dollars gas..

But you come here raggin us and you drive a freakin corolla, dude, what were you thinking.

LOL@nisco


I am not ragging on you I just think that the tib need a few things to make it a true sports car. Here it what it needs.

A one way limited slip differential (a clutch style)
or
An AWD option (cause an open diff FWD has no launch)

A supercharger (5-6 psi would be great, about 250hp)

Wider tires (its slolom and breaking need more ruber on the road)

A diet (loose about 200lbs) It can be done the Celica only weighs 2500lbs and the extra two cylinders don't weigh that much.

If they would make a model with these imporvmants for under 22k I would be in line to buy one, but as they are now they are nothing but a fast economy car and not a proformance machine. I want somthing that is more than a match for a neon srt-4 with a good warenty. Is that too much to ask? Is there somthing wrong in asking for more?

I am not ragging on you I just think that the tib need a few things to make it a true sports car. Here it what it needs.

A one way limited slip differential (a clutch style)
or
An AWD option (cause an open diff FWD has no launch)

A supercharger (5-6 psi would be great, about 250hp)

Wider tires (its slolom and breaking need more ruber on the road)

A diet (loose about 200lbs) It can be done the Celica only weighs 2500lbs and the extra two cylinders don't weigh that much.

If they would make a model with these imporvmants for under 22k I would be in line to buy one, but as they are now they are nothing but a fast economy car and not a proformance machine. I want somthing that is more than a match for a neon srt-4 with a good warenty. Is that too much to ask? Is there somthing wrong in asking for more?

First off it's warranty not warenty and all that can be added to the tiburon.. there is a supercharger, there is a LSD and wider tires is on you. You can always buy the 19000 dollar tib put 3 g's in it and have that 22k car that will run with the SRT-4.

Your argument isn't just Jared. Your rattling on and on about something that apparently you don't know too much about.

The Celica weighing less comment. True it may, but still only has a .1 tenth of a time on the Tiburon in the 1/4

Has no launch. I can rip any Eclipse, Acura RSX-S, Celica offline with the torque the tiburon has. You ever sat in a 03 tiburon at a red light and got on it? I have, I own one. It will lay you back in the seat.

Tiburon is a true sports car and a TRUE IMPORT sports car. It's getting really old that all the hataz come in here to bash the Tiburon cause it carries the name Hyundai.

First off I do know what I am talking about I have been studying this stuff for years, and I will debate anyone who doubts me. Secondly I see that I am having trouble convaying what I am saying to you so since nobody can anwser my Evo challange let me propose another. The 2002 Camaro Z28 has a base price of 22k. Find me a tib that can beat it in three of five events (1/4mile, 600ft slolom, 0-60, 60-0, and lataral G force) in street form (tires, interior and emmisions) for the same price. Without using more than a 50 shot of NOS. (We all not trying to see how mech NOS you can run without your motor poping) Come on if your car is as amazing as you say you could at leased beat an American car. Remember that I don't want hp quotes I want actual proformance numbers from a good source. I dare you to find one. If you choose not to accept this challange don't bother writing back, because I don't want to hear any more of your excuses, or ideas to make the tib faster than the Z28, I only want facts. If there is anything unfair about this challange tell me about it and I will revise it to make it totaly fair to you.

First off it's warranty not warenty and all that can be added to the tiburon.. there is a supercharger, there is a LSD and wider tires is on you. You can always buy the 19000 dollar tib put 3 g's in it and have that 22k car that will run with the SRT-4.

The Celica weighing less comment. True it may, but still only has a .1 tenth of a time on the Tiburon in the 1/4 .




You are not going to add a real supercharger wider tires/wheels and an LSD for 3k period. Unless you get them out of a scrap yard! And the Celica weighs about 500lbs less you cannot tell me that they could not shave 200lbs off the tib. Those cars are in the same class.

dude i didnt say the 3 items would be 3k exactly...

dude i didnt say the 3 items would be 3k exactly...


Yea they would be more like 5-6k have you seen how much it costs for some 17x10 proformance wheels? The supercharger alone is about $2000. And any decent LSD will cost you at leased $600. Then you are looking at 600-800 for the tires. And you still would not match an Evo!

i wont diss your car, because i am not like you. i can see potential in any car. i posted that time because you didnt post a 1/4 time untill after three pages, so i went with the first time i found. i have read about some pretty cool sleeper corollas. just fucking open your narrow mind, and believe that cars other than "real tuner" cars are very capable of impressive things. a 13.4 gets very close, with 8000 dollars left to spend. and the 600hp tib was not a nos engine that blew up. it is actually a daily driven turbocharged car. i believe your thinking about the STOCK saturn engine. it did blow, but lasted 100(that is ONE FUCKING HUNDRED) nitrous runs at 12.6 in the quarter mile.


ohhh, and look what i found. right click, save as...

http://www.tiburonturbo.com/pics/2003-30-sept-dyno/video/dyno-289whp-tiburon.wmv


Unfortunetly your video does not work on this computer. But I do believe that someone could get 289whp out of a tib, and I did not say that it had no tuning potential, I said that they were not up to par with their compatition, you would have to spend more on a tib to make it 1/4 mile in 13.06 and slolom at 71mph than you would pay for an Evo. Don't get me wrong I cheer for people who take oddball cars and turn them into sleepers, but I know that what is going to happen. A bunch of posers are going to take this car and turn it into a rolling side show. All cosmetic no proformance, and give import fans a bad name. Just like they did with the Civics. I love civics to death but posers make me mad. I may drive an old rusted import but at leased I don't try to make it look like a racecar. I know that some people are going to make fast tibs but they will be the vast minority.

listen dude.. just read this. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0207_shark/index.html

and i agree, it is a very heavy car. but it is because its suspension is so good.

Yea they would be more like 5-6k have you seen how much it costs for some 17x10 proformance wheels? The supercharger alone is about $2000. And any decent LSD will cost you at leased $600. Then you are looking at 600-800 for the tires. And you still would not match an Evo!

but you would still have 3 or 4 grand to put into the tibby.

listen dude.. just read this. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0207_shark/index.html
and i agree, it is a very heavy car. but it is because its suspension is so good.
but you would still have 3 or 4 grand to put into the tibby.



I saw your racing tib and I must admit that it was impressive, but it still was slower than the Evo 0-60 5.7 vs 4.6. slolom 71.4 vs 71.6. And that is a striped down full fledged racing car! Now admit it that racing car cost more than the Evo and it was still slower. I am not saying that the tib is a bad car but I still say that the Evo is faster in EVERY respect, even for the money. You could make a 10 second tib but you would have to spend twice the money and strip out twice the weight as the Evo. Anyway since yall don't get the Evo example I have to use my Z28 example, I am still waiting for the tib that can beat it for less money. Nothing is more embarasing than having a domestic lump of steel beat you. If you cannot take that car you will NEVER smoke an Evo or an STi.

Your an idiot jared

i dont know where you got your 1/4 mile time for the evo from. it wasnt motor trend.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/112_0310_tun/index1.html

If I am the idiot than why can't you anwser my challenge. Remember that you are the one in the spotlight, not me. Prove to me that you are smarter. Just try. You are defending a loosing cause jump ship while you can.