Just started Converible wide arch RX7
chrismcgee
10-16-2003, 06:37 AM
are we talking a zonda style quad exhaust, ot two twins either side?
Verminator
10-16-2003, 06:40 AM
Its got to be Zonda style. :screwy: :lol2:
chrismcgee
10-16-2003, 07:24 AM
or it could be 4 spread even ly over the whole width, or even two on one side and two on the other.
spoolin12
10-16-2003, 07:29 AM
Lookin wicked so far!
Cant wait to see the primer on it :D
Cant wait to see the primer on it :D
joecwlaw
10-16-2003, 09:31 AM
or it could be 4 spread even ly over the whole width, or even two on one side and two on the other.
hmmmm, how about 1 on each side, but is "rectangle" shape?
hmmmm, how about 1 on each side, but is "rectangle" shape?
chrismcgee
10-16-2003, 10:29 AM
its definately a possibility, or oval maybe
86_SR5
10-16-2003, 11:03 AM
its definately a possibility, or oval maybe looks god, bout time we see some of the widebody comin out.
Bangai-o
10-16-2003, 11:16 AM
its definately a possibility, or oval maybe
That's decision for ya :iceslolan .
That's decision for ya :iceslolan .
MR-2RaCeR
10-16-2003, 12:18 PM
Yo where did you get the Milliput 2 part putty? I've been looking for sum but had no luck finding any.
chrismcgee
10-16-2003, 05:55 PM
again it was from a local hobby store, wasnt realy too impressed with it, bit like using blue tack, couldnt realy shape it well enough unlike my humbrol putty which is soft and a lot like toothpaste. you can shape it easy b4 it starts to set. which is cool, i am looking to put in an big order to humbrol, for a box of 24 "precision polly cememnt" bottles coz they are always getting clogged, plus i wanna order a box of the putty to save me money, i get through so much of that stuff
Bloodhound
10-17-2003, 02:20 AM
Yet another completely insane puttied up project from you chrismag. This is quite a wild idea, can't wait to see it finished. How about you do something different for the exhaust? Like a large rectangular port with rounded edges, with both pipes meeting in it and exiting through it? Smack it right in the middle. What'll the interior be like?
chrismcgee
10-17-2003, 05:03 AM
centre exit never even crossed my mind, but i think its definately the way im gonnna go. will have to look at my materials to see what the best way of producing the box would be. cheers dude,
tazdev
10-17-2003, 05:55 AM
chris the edit to your post was just to fix up your img tags.
Nice work so far, looks like alot of filing/ sanding to be done though. good luck with it
Nice work so far, looks like alot of filing/ sanding to be done though. good luck with it
chrismcgee
10-17-2003, 07:49 AM
http://files.automotiveforums.com/img/8811.jpg
ok here i have built up a little box, 20mmx5mmx20mm, its gonna have the lip cut out so the box can be moved upwards and at a slight angle, will also have to fill in the numberplte recess.
hope ya like it
ok here i have built up a little box, 20mmx5mmx20mm, its gonna have the lip cut out so the box can be moved upwards and at a slight angle, will also have to fill in the numberplte recess.
hope ya like it
chrismcgee
10-17-2003, 11:51 AM
http://files.automotiveforums.com/img/4161.jpg
ok,here it is, i cut out a slot in the new bumper, filled in the old exhaust hole.
also added extra width to the rear flanks.
ok,here it is, i cut out a slot in the new bumper, filled in the old exhaust hole.
also added extra width to the rear flanks.
Ferrari TR
10-17-2003, 02:51 PM
I like the concept...
But to me the 'tip' is really tall...
Maybe a little taller then your opening...
I know how hard it is to do something different, I 'm trying to make a boxster style tip for a custom New Beetle project.
:p
But to me the 'tip' is really tall...
Maybe a little taller then your opening...
I know how hard it is to do something different, I 'm trying to make a boxster style tip for a custom New Beetle project.
:p
86_SR5
10-17-2003, 04:15 PM
wow, looks real good chris.
modder30
10-17-2003, 09:26 PM
This is the best Rx7 i have ever seen cant wait to see the final project.
Bloodhound
10-17-2003, 10:11 PM
Awesome work, but it'll take a lot of smoothing out before you get a good finish. exhaust port looks great :smokin:
Hiroboy
10-18-2003, 02:39 AM
That is MAD...but I love it, not sure about the convertable idea but time will tell, I'm sure you'll make it work just fine.
chrismcgee
10-18-2003, 05:37 AM
cheers guys, the tail pipe is gonna get a bit of a change, gotta wait till i shape the rear bumper b4 i re shape it. but it will be good, also i have been trying something new with regards to an axle set up for using aftermarket wheels. allowing an unlimited height set up.plus having the ability to retain the standard discs too.
will post the tutorial soon
will post the tutorial soon
86_SR5
10-18-2003, 09:59 AM
pics, we need pics. and uhhh, chris since your not doing it exactly, are you still gonna do the decals?
chrismcgee
10-18-2003, 10:10 AM
pics, we need pics. and uhhh, chris since your not doing it exactly, are you still gonna do the decals?
might be spraying them on, dont have access to custom decal making equip. but i may have to raid a few of my unused decals to see what i have
might be spraying them on, dont have access to custom decal making equip. but i may have to raid a few of my unused decals to see what i have
86_SR5
10-18-2003, 10:21 AM
thats cool. What about sound, you gotta have sound in that thing.
chrismcgee
10-18-2003, 10:31 AM
there is a definate possibility of some sounds, maybe a removal of the passenger seats. but i have no subs :banghead:
may be able to create a few subs
may be able to create a few subs
SonyMobile
10-18-2003, 10:33 AM
Impressive, very impressive :sunglasse your puttying skills are amazing, looks good so far, cant wait to see the final product.
chrismcgee
10-18-2003, 11:47 AM
cheers dude, am sanding away like mad, every time i get nearly there i have to cover it again with putty and rub down again. og well, just starting on my third tube of putty
chrismcgee
10-18-2003, 01:15 PM
http://files.automotiveforums.com/img/9941.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/img/9972.jpg
here are the latest sanded pics, sadly lots more sanding to go, but should be getting near primer time!
http://files.automotiveforums.com/img/9972.jpg
here are the latest sanded pics, sadly lots more sanding to go, but should be getting near primer time!
chrismcgee
10-18-2003, 04:26 PM
well i also managed to space the wheels a bit further, which is a bit better.
anyone got any ideas for the soft top cover
anyone got any ideas for the soft top cover
86_SR5
10-18-2003, 08:06 PM
Chris, I say no cover. But if you must, tan leather.
chrismcgee
10-19-2003, 06:56 AM
just gonna do something smooth and subtle, tan is a cool idea
z_dutchie
10-20-2003, 10:46 AM
Exept for the muffler it is a great car
you can putty really good!
you can putty really good!
chrismcgee
10-20-2003, 11:01 AM
after seeing this carisma built tvr i had to go with the suggestion that i had a carbon square box, just to be different, much more fun than following the crowd
http://www.maxpower.co.uk/MEDIA/TVR1.jpg
http://www.maxpower.co.uk/MEDIA/TVR1.jpg
jgmodelcars
10-20-2003, 12:16 PM
at first i was a little weary of this car:uhoh:... and now i just saw the latest sanded pics and i really like it!:bigthumb: I really like the exhaust its a good change and looks pretty damn cool! Keep up the good work!:thumbsup:
chrismcgee
10-20-2003, 05:42 PM
im sitting here now with 5 grades of paper, 240 grit, 600, 800, 1200, 1500 grit, slowly going through each one, they putty is reflecting light its sooooo smooth.
hoping to get a coat of primer on it tomorrow if i have time.
lets keep our fingers crossed
hoping to get a coat of primer on it tomorrow if i have time.
lets keep our fingers crossed
Bloodhound
10-21-2003, 01:49 AM
can't wait, you've got me on the edge of my seat now.
chrismcgee
10-21-2003, 05:52 AM
well the new colour of my car might be red now, but only because i have no skin on my fingers anymore and am bleeding all over it :lol2:
nearly done, gonna take a million pics of it as it is to prove how much work has gone into it, as paint has that horrible way of making 20hrs worth of work look like it never happened :disappoin
but in the same sense im happy its gonna get a coat of primer coz then its closer to paint time
nearly done, gonna take a million pics of it as it is to prove how much work has gone into it, as paint has that horrible way of making 20hrs worth of work look like it never happened :disappoin
but in the same sense im happy its gonna get a coat of primer coz then its closer to paint time
chrismcgee
10-21-2003, 05:07 PM
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692325.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692324.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692323.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692322.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692321.jpg
here is my latest progress, its scary how primer hides so much, also its shown up a few things that i gotta sort out, but hey thats what the primer is for. we gotta have perfection now havent we
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692324.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692323.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692322.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/692321.jpg
here is my latest progress, its scary how primer hides so much, also its shown up a few things that i gotta sort out, but hey thats what the primer is for. we gotta have perfection now havent we
86_SR5
10-21-2003, 05:25 PM
Looks nice, as you said you have some impurities in the putty, but nothing like a little sanding to do the trick huh? I have a ? for you. To make it easier on yourself, why don't you start out with 60grit to shape, 150 to contour, 240 to smooth, and work your way up in the paper till its smooth as glass? That's what I do and mine comes out descent.
MythosGR
10-21-2003, 06:04 PM
I was looking at the pics and there was something that I didn't like...
I think it's the fact that there are no panel lines!!!
In real life,even the most massive bodykits have some panel lines,some structure...The fact that your widebody is literaly all over the car(you can call it the one-off car :smile: ) do no justice to the hours you worked on the car!
Think at least about having some lines between front bumper and front wings and the same for the rear!!!
However,it's a good work! :smile:
Just my 2 cents for the hours spent on this model!
P.S:Also because of the very smooth lines your body kit has the car might look better without a wing!(Something commonly done to classy RX-7s)
I think it's the fact that there are no panel lines!!!
In real life,even the most massive bodykits have some panel lines,some structure...The fact that your widebody is literaly all over the car(you can call it the one-off car :smile: ) do no justice to the hours you worked on the car!
Think at least about having some lines between front bumper and front wings and the same for the rear!!!
However,it's a good work! :smile:
Just my 2 cents for the hours spent on this model!
P.S:Also because of the very smooth lines your body kit has the car might look better without a wing!(Something commonly done to classy RX-7s)
jgmodelcars
10-21-2003, 06:53 PM
Its looking good, like you said it has some impurities but thats ok, nothing big! I do agree with Mythos though and maybe you should scribe in a panel line for the front and back bumpers. It will give the car that extra nudge toward perfection! Good work so far!:bigthumb: Can't wait to see it painted:iceslolan!
PS: i really like the exhaust its a nice different touch!:bigthumb:
PS: i really like the exhaust its a nice different touch!:bigthumb:
dutchboy 618
10-21-2003, 06:55 PM
Hey chris,
This car is sick!!!!!
I think the exaust is a little to big tough because it stiks out to much at the bottom.
Anyways thats just my opinoin and keep up the good work!!!
This car is sick!!!!!
I think the exaust is a little to big tough because it stiks out to much at the bottom.
Anyways thats just my opinoin and keep up the good work!!!
Sebstar
10-22-2003, 04:27 AM
lookn good shazza... but you really need some panel lines in there :D
chrismcgee
10-22-2003, 06:47 AM
i always do my panel lines last of all, that way i can guarentee that the depth is always the same all round and not different from over sanding.
so there was always gonna be some just not at that stage yet.
the exhast is meant to hang down a little as i wanted the rear to have a diffuser look, there was a slight miscalculation on my part when building the exhaust, it was meant to be 20mmx5mmx20mm, but i ended up making the top pieces the total size and not the inside size and now its 20x7x20. oh well. i dont think this is gonna be my last custom exhaust so expect them to get better.
There is a rear wing on there i just didnt want it to be too big as i wanted to keep a gentle smooth look to it, im sure the final colour will bring this all together.
i used a very heavy grade paper to shape it initaly but in the final stages it does more harm than good in the smooth flowing parts.
i start with 60 grit heavy grade oxide paper. then when im happy it goes to the wet and dry paper. its all good stuff.
so there was always gonna be some just not at that stage yet.
the exhast is meant to hang down a little as i wanted the rear to have a diffuser look, there was a slight miscalculation on my part when building the exhaust, it was meant to be 20mmx5mmx20mm, but i ended up making the top pieces the total size and not the inside size and now its 20x7x20. oh well. i dont think this is gonna be my last custom exhaust so expect them to get better.
There is a rear wing on there i just didnt want it to be too big as i wanted to keep a gentle smooth look to it, im sure the final colour will bring this all together.
i used a very heavy grade paper to shape it initaly but in the final stages it does more harm than good in the smooth flowing parts.
i start with 60 grit heavy grade oxide paper. then when im happy it goes to the wet and dry paper. its all good stuff.
Sebstar
10-22-2003, 07:46 AM
just a suggestion, but you should do something with the rear wing... don't know about you, but it just doesn't add the feel to the widebody car... it looks a bit out of touch if you know what i mean
chrismcgee
10-22-2003, 05:37 PM
think i will wait till i have painted it before i decide if im gonna have a bigger spoiler, i wanna just keep everything smooth and curvy, that spoiler suits it i think.
oh well time will tell
oh well time will tell
86_SR5
10-22-2003, 06:50 PM
think i will wait till i have painted it before i decide if im gonna have a bigger spoiler, i wanna just keep everything smooth and curvy, that spoiler suits it i think.
oh well time will tell
smooth and curvy just like the body. I think the one on it suits it very well, I say current wing, or no wing.
oh well time will tell
smooth and curvy just like the body. I think the one on it suits it very well, I say current wing, or no wing.
chrismcgee
10-22-2003, 06:55 PM
thanks dude, i think it also keeps the proportions of long and low good!
a coat of black paint will make it all seem a lot better i think
a coat of black paint will make it all seem a lot better i think
bah humbug
10-22-2003, 08:16 PM
I'm sorry, but everybody has opinions and I feel I have to speak mine.
IT IS SO UGLY!
It looks like an overweight Rx-7.
What happened to the "Zoom Zoom" :lol2:
Honestly In my opinion that is one of the ugliest body kits I've ever seen for the Rx-7! It's like One big smooth putty blob on an Rx-7. It just don't look right in my eyes. I feel bad for that FD. Sure you can say oooooh it's different it's new, you can say I and many other people just build the same old plain things that are seen over and over again, but this is just :disappoin Sorry, I just don't like it.
Sorry if I've offended you, I just needed to say it.
I know, I know, if you don't have anything nice to say than don't say it at all. But this is is different!
IT IS SO UGLY!
It looks like an overweight Rx-7.
What happened to the "Zoom Zoom" :lol2:
Honestly In my opinion that is one of the ugliest body kits I've ever seen for the Rx-7! It's like One big smooth putty blob on an Rx-7. It just don't look right in my eyes. I feel bad for that FD. Sure you can say oooooh it's different it's new, you can say I and many other people just build the same old plain things that are seen over and over again, but this is just :disappoin Sorry, I just don't like it.
Sorry if I've offended you, I just needed to say it.
I know, I know, if you don't have anything nice to say than don't say it at all. But this is is different!
joecwlaw
10-22-2003, 08:33 PM
Chris , that's look sick GOOD!!!!!!
your finger must be flat now :evillol:
your finger must be flat now :evillol:
86_SR5
10-22-2003, 09:02 PM
I'm sorry, but everybody has opinions and I feel I have to speak mine.
IT IS SO UGLY!
It looks like an overweight Rx-7.
What happened to the "Zoom Zoom" :lol2:
Honestly In my opinion that is one of the ugliest body kits I've ever seen for the Rx-7! It's like One big smooth putty blob on an Rx-7. It just don't look right in my eyes. I feel bad for that FD. Sure you can say oooooh it's different it's new, you can say I and many other people just build the same old plain things that are seen over and over again, but this is just :disappoin Sorry, I just don't like it.
Sorry if I've offended you, I just needed to say it.
I know, I know, if you don't have anything nice to say than don't say it at all. But this is is different!
You know, I can agree with that in a few ways. I guess everyone has there own opinion and is more than entitled to it. We're all so tired of the same things though, this is differnt, just like my kittedm rimmed up, 1250TT 6.6L F&F inspired LAmbo with laffing gas.
IT IS SO UGLY!
It looks like an overweight Rx-7.
What happened to the "Zoom Zoom" :lol2:
Honestly In my opinion that is one of the ugliest body kits I've ever seen for the Rx-7! It's like One big smooth putty blob on an Rx-7. It just don't look right in my eyes. I feel bad for that FD. Sure you can say oooooh it's different it's new, you can say I and many other people just build the same old plain things that are seen over and over again, but this is just :disappoin Sorry, I just don't like it.
Sorry if I've offended you, I just needed to say it.
I know, I know, if you don't have anything nice to say than don't say it at all. But this is is different!
You know, I can agree with that in a few ways. I guess everyone has there own opinion and is more than entitled to it. We're all so tired of the same things though, this is differnt, just like my kittedm rimmed up, 1250TT 6.6L F&F inspired LAmbo with laffing gas.
mech0t0
10-22-2003, 09:32 PM
Very cool, I like your work! Have you look into a SAS GT wing? Keep us updated! :smokin:
chrismcgee
10-23-2003, 06:06 AM
well i took all my inspiration from the jgtc. the front end is styled off of the toms supra, maybe paint will change your opinion, but the fact is i just wanted to try it.
the panel lines are going to break up the body a lot, and having a dark paint scheme will hide the sheer size of it.
its purely a challenge to myself as i get bored of finishing box stock kits in one day. as i proved with my 24hr build of a R33.
i already have a box stock rx7, and also have a ltd ed bomex rx7 to build and just wanted to get back into puttying.
and it does seem your the only one to not like it.
yes i myself think its looking overly bulbous but it is not yet finnished and there are to be further body mods to break it up and give it a more evil look.
if i had access to a cnc machine i would design all my body kits in 3d cad and have them machined which would get all the detail i would want but at the moment i will just have to use my hands and a scalpel.
Please dont reply to my posts if you have crap like that to say, i mean, thats why the syndicate left, he only ever had shit to say about anything. this is a supportive group. i dont ever recall slagging off your work and believe that i should keep destructive comments to myself.
in what ways would you contructively improve this then? without childish comments such as bin it?
the panel lines are going to break up the body a lot, and having a dark paint scheme will hide the sheer size of it.
its purely a challenge to myself as i get bored of finishing box stock kits in one day. as i proved with my 24hr build of a R33.
i already have a box stock rx7, and also have a ltd ed bomex rx7 to build and just wanted to get back into puttying.
and it does seem your the only one to not like it.
yes i myself think its looking overly bulbous but it is not yet finnished and there are to be further body mods to break it up and give it a more evil look.
if i had access to a cnc machine i would design all my body kits in 3d cad and have them machined which would get all the detail i would want but at the moment i will just have to use my hands and a scalpel.
Please dont reply to my posts if you have crap like that to say, i mean, thats why the syndicate left, he only ever had shit to say about anything. this is a supportive group. i dont ever recall slagging off your work and believe that i should keep destructive comments to myself.
in what ways would you contructively improve this then? without childish comments such as bin it?
Ran
10-23-2003, 03:57 PM
Hi, i think that model you did is very amazing!
I allso build models, but i have a question:
how do you make wide body?
what are u using to do it?
-Ran
I allso build models, but i have a question:
how do you make wide body?
what are u using to do it?
-Ran
chrismcgee
10-23-2003, 05:34 PM
i first made strips of styrene card and glued them inside the arches. when they had dried i began building up putty over the arches a layer at a time. until i had the desired depth. once that was reached i becan sanding the putty till i had the contours i needed. i keep adding putty as and when needed.
hope this helps :smile:
hope this helps :smile:
86_SR5
10-23-2003, 08:18 PM
Chris, are those rims premade? or did you make them? The deep dishes I'm making for my hopping hydros 20'' bellajo rims, I'm using 30thous styrene and where the two ends join, i putty, wait a day sand until i get the deseried form.
chrismcgee
10-24-2003, 05:24 AM
those rims are completely standard, nice arnt they.
have you taken the wheel to a plumbing store and tried to see if there are any plastic drainage pipes that are of the same diameter as what you need, then you could just cut small circles of it and glue them on?
have you taken the wheel to a plumbing store and tried to see if there are any plastic drainage pipes that are of the same diameter as what you need, then you could just cut small circles of it and glue them on?
86_SR5
10-24-2003, 03:44 PM
I could smack myself for not doing that!
SchuberT
10-24-2003, 04:36 PM
well, i think the FD looks awesome, but i think if you hadnt flared out the side skirt so much, it would look a lot better... ofcourse, i have no right to talk since i've never even tried scratchbuilding, but i thought i'd just share my 2 cents... but i believe in what you said about the dark paint hiding the size... i'm excited to see the finished product...
willimo
10-24-2003, 06:56 PM
I kind of agree with bah humbug, actually, but I think it's certainly a nice model. I can't throw putty worth a damn, and I could never smooth it to look symmetrical like you have done. So for the amount of work you've done and the skill you have, good job! The car just isn't my style either.
But whatever, I don't actively dislike it. So I have some constructive comments. I think someone said before that the exaust hangs out too low under the rear bumper and I agree, cut into the bumper and mount it where the license plate will go and it'll look trick. And the other thing, but it may be too late to deal with now, you could stop the bodywork behind the front wheel arch a few mm before the door (now you'd have to cut thru gobs of putty so it may be impossible) and add some thin styrene to the contour, so that it would look like a vent in the wide body work. You said you've taken inspiration for JGTC cars, and if there was a vent there it would be keeping in with that theme. Just a couple things I thought of. Otherwise, it's lookin quite good.
But whatever, I don't actively dislike it. So I have some constructive comments. I think someone said before that the exaust hangs out too low under the rear bumper and I agree, cut into the bumper and mount it where the license plate will go and it'll look trick. And the other thing, but it may be too late to deal with now, you could stop the bodywork behind the front wheel arch a few mm before the door (now you'd have to cut thru gobs of putty so it may be impossible) and add some thin styrene to the contour, so that it would look like a vent in the wide body work. You said you've taken inspiration for JGTC cars, and if there was a vent there it would be keeping in with that theme. Just a couple things I thought of. Otherwise, it's lookin quite good.
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