Engine Choice
sRscooby
02-10-2005, 03:00 PM
Its funny because now theres the backlash of everyone riding the KAs nuts just to be non-conformist.
or maybe because it's already in there :disappoin
or maybe because it's already in there :disappoin
Th*GgEd_OuTtTt
02-10-2005, 03:57 PM
okay back on the V6 - I-6 topic, one person says the v-6 produces low end torque and someone else says the I-6 produces low end torque, does it truly matter weather it's a v6 or I-6 at all? or is it based on the bore and stroke? wouldn't torque closer to the end of the power band be more desireable, considering you don't use low end during accleration? Bmw I-6's produce peak torque around 5k, woudln't that be more useable in a race? just my thoughts, and how would a boxer 6 do in terms of low end torque? would that be the ultimate low end torque producer?
slideways...
02-10-2005, 04:17 PM
its more based on bore and stroke than v6 or i6 and yes more torque later = more hp
if you have 2 engines that make the same torque but one makes it 2000 rpm later that engine will always have more HP. that is what bmw did with their engines to increase peak hp without forced induction and thats how their m3 makes more hp/liter than an s2000. something most honduh owners dont knkow :)
treat a boxer engine as a vee engine that has a 180 degree angle, as opposed to 60 or so degrees that a normal vee engine has and that can fit in a smaller(flatter) space than other engines
hence the handling abilities of porsches, most notably the 914/6
if you have 2 engines that make the same torque but one makes it 2000 rpm later that engine will always have more HP. that is what bmw did with their engines to increase peak hp without forced induction and thats how their m3 makes more hp/liter than an s2000. something most honduh owners dont knkow :)
treat a boxer engine as a vee engine that has a 180 degree angle, as opposed to 60 or so degrees that a normal vee engine has and that can fit in a smaller(flatter) space than other engines
hence the handling abilities of porsches, most notably the 914/6
Th*GgEd_OuTtTt
02-10-2005, 04:22 PM
yea, i was considering on getting an r32 skyline when i'm finished school because it's beautiful I-6, i'm in canada so it's legal. Butttt i'm pretty contempt on going the BMW route, i've been checking alot of bmw dyno sheets and i see the high end torque and hp at that, but i'm not too sure on durability of their engine under forced induction conditions. I kno their quality, but who knos?!?!?! I kno the skyline engine can take a pummling, but i think more people would respect a turbo Bmw over a the RB which was created for the sole purpose of forced induction.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-10-2005, 04:51 PM
yes there is the black top sr20s come with the t28 turbo and they are in s15s
and the red top comes with t25s
ma bro had a red top and i have two mates with black tops
you dont know shit about what your talking about, just stfu. Pretty much everything you just said was completly wrong....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/cornelius540/scan.jpg
and the red top comes with t25s
ma bro had a red top and i have two mates with black tops
you dont know shit about what your talking about, just stfu. Pretty much everything you just said was completly wrong....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/cornelius540/scan.jpg
naruto
02-10-2005, 07:38 PM
how am i wrong hit n run playa
if i could come over there to show u but i cant..
but anyway how should u guys know so much about the sr20det engine when they are ilegal in the us or where ever...have u even seen one????
man i see sr's nearly every week
if i could come over there to show u but i cant..
but anyway how should u guys know so much about the sr20det engine when they are ilegal in the us or where ever...have u even seen one????
man i see sr's nearly every week
D-Bo
02-10-2005, 08:11 PM
HAHAHAHA you, my friend, are a MORON. there are PLENTY of sr's here. and did you even GLANCE at the chart hit n run posted???
1viadrft
02-10-2005, 08:23 PM
VG30DE(TT), Byyyyyyyyyatches!
D-Bo
02-10-2005, 08:36 PM
hahaha yeah, that engine OWNS..
naruto
02-10-2005, 08:40 PM
exactly as i said some s14s come with black top sr20 which has at28 turbo and the s15s come with the same sure the power may be different but as i said about the red tops and blacktops fuck face
naruto
02-10-2005, 08:41 PM
do u think im a newbie???
1viadrft
02-10-2005, 08:42 PM
^ HuH?^
Whatever happend to that guy who was swapping in a VG30DE in his 240sx, guys?
Whatever happend to that guy who was swapping in a VG30DE in his 240sx, guys?
D-Bo
02-10-2005, 08:58 PM
you don't think there are sr's here??? have you ever seen www.cardomain.com ?? ever searched for a 240sx in the us or canada?? you don't think i've seen one??
wow
wow
naruto
02-10-2005, 09:04 PM
yeah u might see them in pictures but i actually talk to the owners......y arent u talking about the thing about the red tops and black tops???
naruto
02-10-2005, 09:05 PM
o yes i do go to cardomain.com
D-Bo
02-10-2005, 09:08 PM
cause i felt like going along with hit n run.. seemed like he had a good case.. but you are quite naive telling me i've only seen them in pictures.. do you think we only have igloos and polar bears up here??i'll tell you that it gets almost as hot here as it does in the south west..
naruto
02-10-2005, 09:22 PM
man im not talking about the weather were talking about engines stay on the topic...was i wrong about the engines?????
AWDSR20
02-10-2005, 09:38 PM
how am i wrong hit n run playa
if i could come over there to show u but i cant..
but anyway how should u guys know so much about the sr20det engine when they are ilegal in the us or where ever...have u even seen one????
man i see sr's nearly every week
Advice, NEVER FLAME MORE THEN ONE PERSON AT A TIME;
By stating that us (USA 240 drivers) have never seen SR in 240, you are making yourself a target practice for flaming!
I have SR20DET blktop IT CAME with the T25 I SWAPED to the T28 BB from a S15!
No S13 blktop came with the T28 or the T28 bb.
BTW you most likely saw a blktop S14 swapped in a S13…
if i could come over there to show u but i cant..
but anyway how should u guys know so much about the sr20det engine when they are ilegal in the us or where ever...have u even seen one????
man i see sr's nearly every week
Advice, NEVER FLAME MORE THEN ONE PERSON AT A TIME;
By stating that us (USA 240 drivers) have never seen SR in 240, you are making yourself a target practice for flaming!
I have SR20DET blktop IT CAME with the T25 I SWAPED to the T28 BB from a S15!
No S13 blktop came with the T28 or the T28 bb.
BTW you most likely saw a blktop S14 swapped in a S13…
naruto
02-10-2005, 09:51 PM
i said nothing bout s13s i was only talking about the s14s and s15s i havent seen a blacktop with a t28..i didnt mean that u dont see them at all yes u may see the occasional sr now and then BUT i only said that because all i hear is that the sr's are ilageal...well i appoligize bout that but i have nothing to appoligize about the engine conversation/arrgument....shit all u can flame me if u want ill let give me ur best...u can flame me if u want but i aint gonna reply cause i aint got nothing against anyone
hey d-bo& hit n run playa u didnt answer my question do u think im a newbie????
hey d-bo& hit n run playa u didnt answer my question do u think im a newbie????
naruto
02-10-2005, 09:52 PM
whoops i mean i havent seen a blacktop with a t25
Hit_N_Run-player
02-10-2005, 09:59 PM
yes i think your a newbie, get your damn story straight. Your saying like 6 different things, pick one. And what you said, i posted right below it that stated exactly what you said was wrong, why argue?
naruto
02-10-2005, 10:43 PM
what did i say??? this is a good match between u and me how old r u i think i saw in another tread that u were 15 well so am i
drumpet15
02-11-2005, 01:53 AM
what did i say??? this is a good match between u and me how old r u i think i saw in another tread that u were 15 well so am i
Hey! I know!
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SHUT UP! Why wouldn't we think you were a newbie anyways? It says so right under your name! And 27 posts?! You only have 27 posts because it takes you three to say what you're trying to say!
Hey! I know!
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SHUT UP! Why wouldn't we think you were a newbie anyways? It says so right under your name! And 27 posts?! You only have 27 posts because it takes you three to say what you're trying to say!
nissanfanatic
02-11-2005, 02:00 AM
I don't think I have ever seen a SR20 in real life. I'm sure I'm not missing much.
How about this...
Don't judge people on thier expirience or how long they've been here. Judge them on what they know.
And naruto, please start knowing more. Knowledge is power and it seems that you couldn't light up an LED.
How about this...
Don't judge people on thier expirience or how long they've been here. Judge them on what they know.
And naruto, please start knowing more. Knowledge is power and it seems that you couldn't light up an LED.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-11-2005, 08:37 AM
what did i say??? this is a good match between u and me how old r u i think i saw in another tread that u were 15 well so am i
Good match? yes im 15, but you cant even pick one damn story. How is this a match? everyone here as said i was right, so im guessing that pretty much means your wrong. And your 15 and you say you hang out sr20's all the time? wow, thats great. Like nissan said, i dont think im actually missing that much. And im around T88's everyweekend pushing 20psi at my work, where i also get pretty much any IHI turbo product for free....so i think i should be the one bragging about stuff here, meh.....
Good match? yes im 15, but you cant even pick one damn story. How is this a match? everyone here as said i was right, so im guessing that pretty much means your wrong. And your 15 and you say you hang out sr20's all the time? wow, thats great. Like nissan said, i dont think im actually missing that much. And im around T88's everyweekend pushing 20psi at my work, where i also get pretty much any IHI turbo product for free....so i think i should be the one bragging about stuff here, meh.....
1viadrft
02-11-2005, 08:49 AM
I don't know about you guys... but I live in California and I have seen many-a-SR20DET in street 240sx's. Maybe not legal... but that doesn't mean crap.
R.W.240
02-11-2005, 10:05 AM
I don't think I have ever seen a SR20 in real life. I'm sure I'm not missing much.
UR JUST SCURRRED O DE MAD PWR y0@112!11
UR JUST SCURRRED O DE MAD PWR y0@112!11
R.W.240
02-11-2005, 10:06 AM
BTW Naruto...
...You Suck SR20s are gay.
...You Suck SR20s are gay.
D-Bo
02-11-2005, 11:47 AM
BTW Naruto...
...You Suck SR20s are gay.
amen. and naruto, maybe you've never heard of the show, but its called darknights.. it comes to a park outside toronto every summer. i've been to it two years in a row. i've seen sr20s. i've seen rhd silvias (not that i knew enough about them at the time but thats irrelevant) i also know mats baribeau. he's got a redtop in his s13. look for him on cardomain and see what he's done. you suck at being a newb.
yeah, i went there
and nissanfanatic is right. learn more. that may help you post more intelligent ideas
...You Suck SR20s are gay.
amen. and naruto, maybe you've never heard of the show, but its called darknights.. it comes to a park outside toronto every summer. i've been to it two years in a row. i've seen sr20s. i've seen rhd silvias (not that i knew enough about them at the time but thats irrelevant) i also know mats baribeau. he's got a redtop in his s13. look for him on cardomain and see what he's done. you suck at being a newb.
yeah, i went there
and nissanfanatic is right. learn more. that may help you post more intelligent ideas
nissanfanatic
02-11-2005, 12:29 PM
UR JUST SCURRRED O DE MAD PWR y0@112!11
AIGHT dat's it. Meet me hurr (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=561) wit yur boyz and i'm gunna call u out foo. I'm guna bring my RB26DETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT powered civic n my boy gona bring his SR20DETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTt powad 999sx. They both putttn like 2500hp down and run 4s in the 1/4. what foo, you scurred.!!!!!1!1@@#$556767*^%$##@
AIGHT dat's it. Meet me hurr (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=561) wit yur boyz and i'm gunna call u out foo. I'm guna bring my RB26DETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT powered civic n my boy gona bring his SR20DETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTt powad 999sx. They both putttn like 2500hp down and run 4s in the 1/4. what foo, you scurred.!!!!!1!1@@#$556767*^%$##@
AWDSR20
02-11-2005, 12:46 PM
i said nothing bout s13s i was only talking about the s14s and s15s i havent seen a blacktop with a t28..
dude.. T28 came only on S14 and S15 blktop, no S14 or S15 came with T25.
Your are talking about S14, so how could you have never seen a blacktop with a T28??!!!
whatevers...
dude.. T28 came only on S14 and S15 blktop, no S14 or S15 came with T25.
Your are talking about S14, so how could you have never seen a blacktop with a T28??!!!
whatevers...
slideways...
02-11-2005, 03:21 PM
christ naruto i live in MINNESOTA and there are sr20dets in 240s EVERYWHERE since like last year late 2003 all the honda and acura boys started buying the shit out of 240s and not one (besides me) still has a KA24 in thiers (that i know of)
and yes please do your research before talking about facts especially when you can click on the intro topics at the top of the list to learn every thing about 240s and sr20s and ka24s ect. that is even being discussed here.
and yes please do your research before talking about facts especially when you can click on the intro topics at the top of the list to learn every thing about 240s and sr20s and ka24s ect. that is even being discussed here.
Th*GgEd_OuTtTt
02-11-2005, 04:10 PM
yea the sr20 is the new b16 sad 2 say, i wished all the tuner mags never gave attention to sr20's, what's next!?!?!?! ... personally i'm switching to bmw 3 series, that seems some what virgin from riceness! sr20 + speed stickers, 300 hp man jdm tyteeeee
Hit_N_Run-player
02-11-2005, 05:24 PM
dude.. T28 came only on S14 and S15 blktop, no S14 or S15 came with T25.
Your are talking about S14, so how could you have never seen a blacktop with a T28??!!!
whatevers...
see, exactly what im saying. He doesnt know his shi*. Just dont argue or say stupid stuff and we wont flame you...
Your are talking about S14, so how could you have never seen a blacktop with a T28??!!!
whatevers...
see, exactly what im saying. He doesnt know his shi*. Just dont argue or say stupid stuff and we wont flame you...
R.W.240
02-11-2005, 07:06 PM
AIGHT dat's it. Meet me hurr (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=561) wit yur boyz and i'm gunna call u out foo. I'm guna bring my RB26DETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT powered civic n my boy gona bring his SR20DETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTt powad 999sx. They both putttn like 2500hp down and run 4s in the 1/4. what foo, you scurred.!!!!!1!1@@#$556767*^%$##@
http://www.riotdesigns.com/ubbpics/nigra_crazy.jpg
http://www.riotdesigns.com/ubbpics/nigra_crazy.jpg
R.W.240
02-11-2005, 07:21 PM
yea the sr20 is the new b16 sad 2 say, i wished all the tuner mags never gave attention to sr20's, what's next!?!?!?! ... personally i'm switching to bmw 3 series, that seems some what virgin from riceness! sr20 + speed stickers, 300 hp man jdm tyteeeee
Mother Fuckin Werd. Fuck a stupid conformist Rice SR20 Im gonna get some cushy BMW and then showoff my 2000$ Gruppe-M intake while making fun of people with BPU SR20s. Why? because they're rice. and no matter how much faster they are my Intake still pwnz them!
Man... your point of veiw "Slippery Slopinized" sounds a lot like the thinking of a [rich] Ricer. :gay:
Mother Fuckin Werd. Fuck a stupid conformist Rice SR20 Im gonna get some cushy BMW and then showoff my 2000$ Gruppe-M intake while making fun of people with BPU SR20s. Why? because they're rice. and no matter how much faster they are my Intake still pwnz them!
Man... your point of veiw "Slippery Slopinized" sounds a lot like the thinking of a [rich] Ricer. :gay:
Th*GgEd_OuTtTt
02-11-2005, 11:42 PM
LOL! wow takin this a lil serious son, the 240 is the next civic, everyone knows it. and why would i spend 2g's on an intake? that's just a waste, if i'd spend 2g's on an intake it'd be a custom job, and it'd be alot cheaper, dont' come on here flaming everyone like u have a real point. Rich ricer? originally i liked the 240 for what it was, a simple rear wheel drive, small displacement, good handling car. It's all taken away becauze of these rice crazy kids, who wanna swap an sr into their 240 just because everyone else does it, i'd rather be original than follow trends. yea u talk about no matter how faster the sr is, i dbout a turbo 330ci will be slow, any car can be fast meathead, i'm just in the pursuit of orginiality
nissanfanatic
02-12-2005, 12:37 AM
hahaha thats right. I am crazy.:screwy: hahahaha
nissanfanatic
02-12-2005, 12:39 AM
I'm in the pursuit of that which works.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-12-2005, 01:22 PM
when i talk about doing something to a car, i just tunnel out what everyone else thinks and does. i would never swap an SR because everyone else is, i just look at what my obejctive is and how im going to get there. Never follow a trend, do what you want and want helps you best in the situation...
Example.....
Everyone around here swaps in SRs and then has to bribe the DEQ, that doesnt benifit me at all cuz over time i could just save the bribe money cuz of the gay emissions here and have a nice built KA-t. If i was in florida though, swapping an SR might be easier and then i might have a different opinion for it....
Example.....
Everyone around here swaps in SRs and then has to bribe the DEQ, that doesnt benifit me at all cuz over time i could just save the bribe money cuz of the gay emissions here and have a nice built KA-t. If i was in florida though, swapping an SR might be easier and then i might have a different opinion for it....
nissanfanatic
02-12-2005, 04:58 PM
Actually it seems like the SR20 trend is going out. I think plain jane V8s are becoming popular again.
Hit_N_Run-player
02-12-2005, 05:04 PM
you gotta respect em, at least the people who drive them and arent total dic*'s about others driving lower displacement vehicles. At least that how it is for the select few here that are only like muscle and say you cant be quick unless you have a V8...
R.W.240
02-12-2005, 05:05 PM
the 240 is the next civic, everyone knows it.
originally i liked the 240 for what it was, a simple rear wheel drive, small displacement, good handling car. It's all taken away becauze of these rice crazy kids
who wanna swap an sr into their 240 just because everyone else does it,
A) Cry About it. Every car has a Ricer Pack Im not gonna quit liking a kickass car just because some yahoo put some neon on one Especially when it makes good parts more availible.
B) Yeah seeing as how they kidnapped every 240 on the planet to do FWD swaps and then add 1000lbs.
C) Those Rice Kids swap the SR because they have been told its better than the KA. I can understand how this happens. Ive seen so many people on this board preach something they read in a magazine then when they find out they're wrong they act like they knew it the whole time (I know I have).
D) My Point is quit bitching about trends. They'll always be around no matter what you drive. You act like your above them so either paint you car pink with "Im more 1337 dandy than you" written on the side(who knows you might start the next trend -gaysozuko!) or get off your soapbox
originally i liked the 240 for what it was, a simple rear wheel drive, small displacement, good handling car. It's all taken away becauze of these rice crazy kids
who wanna swap an sr into their 240 just because everyone else does it,
A) Cry About it. Every car has a Ricer Pack Im not gonna quit liking a kickass car just because some yahoo put some neon on one Especially when it makes good parts more availible.
B) Yeah seeing as how they kidnapped every 240 on the planet to do FWD swaps and then add 1000lbs.
C) Those Rice Kids swap the SR because they have been told its better than the KA. I can understand how this happens. Ive seen so many people on this board preach something they read in a magazine then when they find out they're wrong they act like they knew it the whole time (I know I have).
D) My Point is quit bitching about trends. They'll always be around no matter what you drive. You act like your above them so either paint you car pink with "Im more 1337 dandy than you" written on the side(who knows you might start the next trend -gaysozuko!) or get off your soapbox
monooxide
02-12-2005, 11:16 PM
actually...If we really dont want people to know about the KA...everytime a Which engine is the best should come up instead of flaming them...Just point to the SR and RBs and CA. I mean if they are this dumb dont let them know the awesome potential of the KA i mean theres some stuff that some people shouldnt be priveledge enought o use....like in the 1st couple months of "BT" iw as like alright then all these dang stupid kids start using "BT" and think theyre all cool...really pissed me off.
D-Bo
02-13-2005, 02:43 AM
to be honest, i don't like the ka only cause my plans don't have anything to do with the sr. the sr is a good motor, but as far as i know, it has the reputation of blowing up.. its not like it blows up all the time but that suggests potential problems with the majority of srs.. i like the ka cause i have a stocker and i know what i'm starting with.. if i have ONE SINGLE CYLINDER below 170 psi then i'm buying a new ka.. there are other prerequisites i have for turbo i'm trying to be as meticulous as possible so that i have reliability in my engine.. another main reason i'm not buying an sr is cause of a guy i know.. he's always loved 240s.. he had one for a week or so but sold it. never told me why., he's an odd kid (6'3" 270lbs guy born in the philipeans (don't have the slightest clue how to spell it but i gave it a shot) and he now drives a 2002 sentra se-r spec-v, very nice car i must say. he's got it completely stock with emblems taken off.. looks good like it is.. he's doing suspension in the spring and exhaust over the summer.. he's like me with the long term plans.. i plan to be boosting at 5 by september, especially if i go out west for may/june
sidewayzS13
03-23-2005, 06:57 AM
fututre reference dont vote on the engine choice then not say anything cause it just brings it to the top of the page and gives us nothing new to read
slideways...
03-23-2005, 10:10 AM
jesus this thread is still open?
jamey240
03-23-2005, 10:21 AM
i havent gotten mine yet, but as soon as my corvette sells, i am going to build a 96/97 240 with the rb26dett, upgraded turbos etc. shooting for 500 rwhp, got the engine builder/installer on standby, found my widebody kit, got the body shop on standby, and i am going to add some cobra racing seats, etc... i cant f'ing wait to sell the vette, anyone know anyone interested in a mostly restored 69 stingray???????
dontpurgethelines
03-23-2005, 11:03 AM
The 2jz because of the fact that i own a toyota corolla and love toyotas now, superchargers are fun on a 1zz engine...
monooxide
03-23-2005, 12:35 PM
YOU CRAZY FOOLS! NOONE WANTS YOU TO BRING UP THE GAYEST THREADS OF ALL TIME TO POST ABOUT YOUR NEW RB IN YOUR 240! PLEASE NEXT TIME JUST MAKE A NEW THREAD!
fyi I HATE ENGINE CHOICE THREADS!
fyi I HATE ENGINE CHOICE THREADS!
whtteg
03-24-2005, 02:36 PM
This thread is getting a little out of hand guys.
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