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ghostrider5778
11-29-2001, 06:56 PM
which is the best 128 bit sytem?
ps2
dreamcast
gamecube
xbox
plz vote

YogsVR4
11-29-2001, 07:18 PM
PS2 has the best games. Therefore its my favorite.

Rich
11-29-2001, 07:22 PM
I would have to vote dreamcast for now, cause its the only one that I own, and I like the games for it. I know its not new, but I enjoy it


BTW,ghostrider5778 the thread topic is spelled wrong (best smystem out) :bloated:

just thought id point that out.

super 96 accord
11-29-2001, 09:06 PM
I have each of those hooked up to my TV right now and they all are good, except the damn kidcube. I can't wait for some adult games. I thought star wars would be fun, but it's not what I really expected. The DC will live on forever with it's multitude and cheapness of the games. Oh yeah, and there's a LOT of good ones for it too. The ps2 games coming out now are pretty good, I've been busy with grand theft auto 3 and tony hawk 3. The xbox is getting played more and more when I have company because we play Halo, DOA3, and fusion frenzy. But I think the Box def. has the most potential. I mean, it's first generation games are awesome!! I can't wait til the 3rd/4th gen games come out!!

Oh, almost forgot!! Project Gotham for xbox rocks!!!!!!!

Jay!
11-29-2001, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by HuMMerMan
BTW,ghostrider5778 the thread topic is spelled wrong (best smystem out) :bloated:

just thought id point that out. Not anymore. :D Moving to Other Games...

jinushaun
11-29-2001, 09:33 PM
The best? In terms of processing power, the X-box hands down. In terms of games library, PS2 hands down--for now. Which one do I prefer?!? PS2 for the simple reason I don't want MS to dominate yet another market sector. I predict Nintendo will be a software company like Sega in the future--with the exception of its pocket systems.

Morpheus XIII
11-30-2001, 02:02 AM
Just want to point something out for kicks. The old school "bit" rating system doesn't work anymore; meaning you can't judge a console platform with numbers like horsepower. Technically, the PS2 and Dreamcast are the only ones with a 128-bit CPU. The GameCube has a hybrid CPU, made of 32-bit integer and 64-bit floating-point CPUs. The Xbox has a 32-bit CPU. However, the GC and Xbox chips are just as good as any other solitude 128-bit CPUs simply because they have many support chips.

If I had to choose just one, I would stick with my PS2, simply because of the 3rd party support and dominating available software (don't forget to add in all the PSone games, as well). Remember how Nintendo used to kick ass with the NES and SNES? Hardware is NOTHING without software in the video game industry, and Sony simply owns this department (for now, at least). Also, I just heard that Squaresoft will be sticking with the PS2 with their statement of "no current plans" for other systems, as a result of Sony's heavy investment purchasing 11-12 million or so shares of their stock.

The GameCube, I will be purchasing this month simply because it provides a type of gaming genre that the Sony and Microsoft units don't cover. You might call them kiddie games, but they are fun, nonetheless. And most of their launch games have received top scores by GamePro, EGM, and such.

Notice something about the Xbox? Yeah, it's American. I'm not saying that it sucks; I'm sure it will provide plenty of entertainment, but I just have to believe it has no future. Many of the launch games were rehashes of games on other systems, like Tony Hawk, rather than brand new ideas. Unless Microsoft can manage to strike some deals with 3rd party software companies, or make a whole lot of great games on their own, they will be doomed as the Atari Jaguar was.

Morpheus XIII
11-30-2001, 02:08 AM
Oh I forgot to mention the Dreamcast. I want one NOW, but probably not through next year. It's a shame SEGA has dropped out of the home console industry, since their machine was really showing promise with all the games out (and STILL coming out!) but obviously, there is no future with them. Some Target stores are selling DCs at $20 bucks! (most are selling for $50, but mysteriously, many people have found out that some are marked to $20) Plus they've got a lot of $9.99 games everywhere (like SEGA GT), and you just can't beat that.

Thanks for bearing with my loudmouth opinions. :silly2:

Mrcoilover
11-30-2001, 09:12 AM
Xbox, Xbox, Xbox. Halo, Halo, Halo. Thats all that needs to be said.

jinushaun
11-30-2001, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Mrcoilover
Xbox, Xbox, Xbox. Halo, Halo, Halo. Thats all that needs to be said.
It's just another FPS, right?! I can't believe it is as great as everyone says it is. But the same can be said of RPGs or any other genre. What?! Another game from Square that takes 50+ hrs to beat and all you do most of the time is fight random monster?!

Mrcoilover
11-30-2001, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by jinushaun

It's just another FPS, right?! I can't believe it is as great as everyone says it is. But the same can be said of RPGs or any other genre. What?! Another game from Square that takes 50+ hrs to beat and all you do most of the time is fight random monster?!

Nah, the realism and eveything is amazing. It goes farther than you would expect. But another thing doh, it's a whole nuther game when you get 3 more of your friends. he he ... ahheee ehee.:smoka:

Morpheus XIII
12-01-2001, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Mrcoilover
Xbox, Xbox, Xbox. Halo, Halo, Halo. Thats all that needs to be said.

After a statement like that, there IS one more thing that needs to be said: You proclaim Xbox's excellence with only ONE worthy game. That is not going to be enough.

super 96 accord
12-02-2001, 01:33 AM
Yes, Halo is that good. But I think it can only be really appreciated with a full surround sound system. Only then will you be sitting on the couch hearing people come up behind you and the feel of the bass when a ship is landing. But then again, I know one of the main reasons I like Halo so much more than my previous FPS's is the sound. Yes, the graphics and AI are incredible, but the sound system takes it five levels higher. One thing that's kinda funny about the AI is that they speak english, and they're ALIENS! Oh well. But there are def other noteworthy games for the box. I personally love Project Gotham. So what if there's only 29 cars, how many people actually earn enough money in GT3 to purchase 29 awesome cars. Oh, and you can't drive FERRARI's and PORSCHE's in GT3. Again, the sound makes this game so much better. Each car seems to sound like it's real life counterpart. This game takes full advantage of the music feature of the xbox. I have two full cds dumped onto the HD and the DJ's in the game, actually introduce my songs. "This one is straight off the request lines..." And about it not being able to read cdr's and cdrw's. Maybe that's some peoples experience, but it's read every cdr I've tried. Oh well, I'm sure this is tooooo long already. Back to go playing DOA3. Yes, because she kicks high :)

super 96 accord
12-02-2001, 01:37 AM
P.S. The pic under my name is from Halo.

Mrcoilover
12-03-2001, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by super 96 accord
Yes, Halo is that good:)

Glad somebody got my back!

Morpheus XIII
12-05-2001, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by super 96 accord
I personally love Project Gotham. So what if there's only 29 cars, how many people actually earn enough money in GT3 to purchase 29 awesome cars. Oh, and you can't drive FERRARI's and PORSCHE's in GT3. Again, the sound makes this game so much better. Each car seems to sound like it's real life counterpart. This game takes full advantage of the music feature of the xbox.

Each of my garages in the first 2 GTs are full (100 cars in each fully modified with about 15 million credits left over), primarily with prize-only cars. My GT3 is about half full (again around 100 full mods with 7 million) with plenty of races left for a lot more. Maybe you can't drive a Porsche, but you can drive an RUF which is far better. Have you never played GT3? Each and every car (all 150 or so of them) has their own sound, which is a true digitized representation of the real deal.

ANDOdacarfreak
12-09-2001, 08:19 PM
X-BOX rulez everybody and PS2 is close behind and dreamcast is cool but gamecube sucks.

Mrcoilover
12-10-2001, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by ANDOdacarfreak
X-BOX rulez everybody and PS2 is close behind and dreamcast is cool but gamecube sucks.

I agree. Game Cube sucks.

Raveen69
12-11-2001, 04:52 AM
I hate to disagree with you, but The X-box, should stay in the box. It has OK graphics, but they arent any good compared to the GameCube. I played Dead or Alive 3 on the Box and it just well, um, sucked. Right next to it was the Cube with Star Wars, that game was awsome. The graphics were 100% better, and belive it or not, you would think you were in the game yourself.

Some of The Box's games look good, especially Project Gotham.
But id rather play it on the Cube.

Also the box boast it plays DVD.

Most americans that will get the box, should already have a DVD player, duh.

I told my friend to get a PS2 for the reason of gettin a DVD player, but that's because his mom wont get a DVD player.
So he oppt and got the 2 for one deal.

In any case, a family wont need a video game system to play DVD's because i would want to play a game while they watchin some stupid movie to begin with.

Sorry to tell you this, but i'd rather the Gamecube, because just like the Dreamcast, it's going to down the tubes as another one-hit-wonder.

Mrcoilover
12-11-2001, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Raveen69
I hate to disagree with you, but The X-box, should stay in the box


Sorry to bust your bubble, but Star Wars is the one and only game that is good on the game cube. I'll get a dreamcast b4 I get a game cube. Who wants to play Luigi's Mansion. Too much kiddie games from Nintendo.

Raveen69
12-11-2001, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Mrcoilover


Sorry to bust your bubble, but Star Wars is the one and only game that is good on the game cube. I'll get a dreamcast b4 I get a game cube. Who wants to play Luigi's Mansion. Too much kiddie games from Nintendo.

So far...it just came out. have you seen their (GameCube's) game list???

Mrcoilover
12-11-2001, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Raveen69


So far...it just came out. have you seen their (GameCube's) game list???

Nope. And on the other hand, the controllers suck. Xbox has plenty of games that I know are going to be good.
NBA 2k2
WWF Raw is War
Halo*
NHL Hitz*
DOA 3*
Project Gotham*
Madden 2002*

*already out

... forgot most of them but they have plenty to go around. Gamecube will be washed out by PS2 before Xbox has anything to worry about.

super 96 accord
12-11-2001, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Raveen69
I hate to disagree with you, but The X-box, should stay in the box. It has OK graphics, but they arent any good compared to the GameCube. I played Dead or Alive 3 on the Box and it just well, um, sucked. Right next to it was the Cube with Star Wars, that game was awsome. The graphics were 100% better, and belive it or not, you would think you were in the game yourself.

Some of The Box's games look good, especially Project Gotham.
But id rather play it on the Cube.

Sorry to tell you this, but i'd rather the Gamecube, because just like the Dreamcast, it's going to down the tubes as another one-hit-wonder.


Umm... Are you sure you're old enough to even know what those two numbers at the end of your name mean?? Because with comments like that and also, the car you're 'waiting' for, c'mon. You must be all of 14 with those preferences.

Morpheus XIII
12-13-2001, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by super 96 accord



Umm... Are you sure you're old enough to even know what those two numbers at the end of your name mean?? Because with comments like that and also, the car you're 'waiting' for, c'mon. You must be all of 14 with those preferences.

You should watch what you say. After all, your vehicle of choice is an R34 GT-R V-Spec II, which you must keep telling yourself to make it true. So no more personal insults.

Furthermore, the GameCube may have some games oriented for a younger public, but that doesn't neither mean they suck, nor does it mean ALL the games are "kiddie"-like. Why don't you go play Super Smash Brothers Melee, and tell us if you had any fun? Or Rogue Leader for that matter, which has been getting perfect scores from just about every gaming publication? And since when was Rogue Leader for little kids, when it's audience primarily consists of middle-aged males who actually watched Episodes 4-6 in the theatre decades ago? Then you've got Eternal Darkness coming, Metroid Prime, the Resident Evil series, and others, all signs that the GameCube will provide adequate software for those of you who think a game needs to be more 'manly and mature', just to be fun (or maybe some people out there need this fix, just to feel adequate about themselves). It's not about an image, it's about having fun, and that is the purpose of a video game system.

As for myself, I will continue to stick with the PS2, simply because I stand with the old saying, "hardware is NOTHING without the software," and Sony currently has a tremendous lead. Oh yeah, and don't forget the shitload of PSX/PSone games.

Morpheus XIII
12-13-2001, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Raveen69
Also the box boast it plays DVD.

Most americans that will get the box, should already have a DVD player, duh.

I told my friend to get a PS2 for the reason of gettin a DVD player, but that's because his mom wont get a DVD player.
So he oppt and got the 2 for one deal.

In any case, a family wont need a video game system to play DVD's because i would want to play a game while they watchin some stupid movie to begin with.

Sorry to tell you this, but i'd rather the Gamecube, because just like the Dreamcast, it's going to down the tubes as another one-hit-wonder.

I must agree with the fact that it's better to have a separate DVD player at home, but if someone wants to take a look at the consoles' DVD playability, then here's some more information: On the Xbox, you MUST buy the $35 remote kit just to play any DVDs to begin with. That's more money to tack onto the hefty $300 pricetag. The PS2 can play DVDs as it is out of the box (and the optional $20 remote and DVD-driver upgrade is nice and sleek, just like all the other Sony products out there). Unfortunately, the GameCube in the U.S. is not available with DVD playability (in Japan there is a model which does, for a far higher pricetag), but hell, it costs a whole $100 less than either PS2 or Xbox. You can buy a decent DVD player for around 100 bucks, if you look carefully.

The Dreamcast was not a one-hit-wonder. Sega simply folded its cards after more than a decade of service with the Master System, Genesis, Sega CD, Saturn, and MOST importantly, the unmatched Arcade technology. The Dreamcast was actually doing okay (and still has some games coming out for it, with plently already made), but the company Sega wasn't. It was just an unfortunate turn of incidents, but that's business. Now Sega is striving to be the TOP 3rd party software producer for Microsoft and Sony (which is why you are seeing plenty of multi-platform games), which is a very important title, being that 3rd party support is a make or break aspect for the consoles.

CorvetteMan
02-13-2002, 05:01 PM
PS2 has the best games and system, and Xbox and Gamecube just SUCK!:sun:

Raveen69
02-13-2002, 05:21 PM
CHECK THIS OUT!!

Sonic the Hedgehog Works for NINTENDO!! (http://www.nintendo.com/news/news_articles.jsp?articleID=6148)

Guess who's on Nintedo's Payroll.

V.S.
02-13-2002, 06:52 PM
Easily the Xbox. Dreamcast is regrettably dead. Gamecube is what it is, but its not replacement for an xbox. It can't play dvd's and I strongly doubt its games will get exceptionally good. PS2 isn't a match hardware wise, and going forward I can't help but think that Xbox is going to start having some really great games. Yeah PS2 has more games right now, but Xbox has been doing pretty well in the time its had, and I assume it'll be getting better. Some of you ADD'ers out there might like popping in a new game each 5min, but I prefer having just a few of the best games, and I think Xbox is already better for that, and will only get better.

Morpheus XIII
02-15-2002, 03:26 AM
So what was the outcome of the long tough launch battle between Nintendo and Microsoft this past holiday season? GamePro's numbers tell the story: Microsoft sold about 934,000 units by early December, while Nintendo wrung out 615,000 in North America (by mid-month, that number was upped to about 800,000). So the holiday season winner was the XBox? Nope. That title goes to the PS2, with 1.4 million consoles sold by early December.

Morpheus XIII
02-15-2002, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by V.S.
...Some of you ADD'ers out there might like popping in a new game each 5min, but I prefer having just a few of the best games, and I think Xbox is already better for that, and will only get better.

When you say "just a few of the best games", we can all safely assume the only title you are referring to is Halo, right? The other half-decent Xbox games are all multi-platformers.

V.S.
02-15-2002, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Morpheus XIII


When you say "just a few of the best games", we can all safely assume the only title you are referring to is Halo, right? The other half-decent Xbox games are all multi-platformers.

right now I'm speaking of halo and pgr, and I'm sure more are going to be coming out. between the xbox's hardware and the obscene amount of money that ms would otherwise lose, I can't believe that the games aren't going to get better.

super 96 accord
02-15-2002, 11:07 AM
I'm pretty sure DOA3 is an exclusive too. The matches go too short for me so we always just play tag survival mode, now that gets fun!

On the demo disc I got, NHL Hitz was on there, man, i don't like hockey but that game was great! I probably won't ever buy it, but my demo disc will get lots of playtime! :)

Polygon
02-16-2002, 01:03 PM
Well it is really hard for me to vote for just one. I only have a Dreamcast as of right now. I do plan to buy an X-Box and a Gamecube in the near future. I am not liking the Playstation 2. Mainly because all the games I want for it may be coming to either the X-Box or Gamecube which would save me and extra $300 bucks.

babybutt1985
04-04-2002, 11:34 AM
The PS2 even though lacks in the power of the x-box, is the best system for the games and the game developers that support sony. Plus all of the upgrades PS2 will have in the future make up for the loss.

Morpheus XIII
04-06-2002, 05:25 AM
I have a GameCube and a PS2. I decided against an Xbox and got a new computer instead. Nintendo's machine is going to have a nostalgic blast this year with Star Fox Adventures, Mario (Sunshine?), Metroid Prime, and the next Zelda. PS2 has quite a bright future breaking records in ALL departments of sales (what does this mean? It means there are more PS2s in all households than all other systems combined). In any case, a system's power has nothing to do with a system's capabilities of fun. I say again, remember Sega's Genesis and Nintendo's NES? Remember how much Sega bragged their 16-bit system would overrule the Nintendo? Well, obviously, Nintendo's 100-fold 3rd party licensing support destroyed any competition, leaving the Genesis in the dust, while simultaneously paving the way for the SNES.

HARDWARE IS NOTHING WITHOUT SOFTWARE. And software must be made in excessive quantities to appeal to all masses...

sarujin
04-06-2002, 05:37 AM
I rekon the X-box is the best one out there. Even tho' it may be lacking games at the moment, it has enough money backing it that it will go well. If i had the money, i'rd go out and buy one. When they are released over here in New Zealand.

sarujin

LiuBei
04-30-2002, 03:45 PM
The XBOX is an 8 pound brick of shit that overheats more than often. Go Buy a GODDAMN PS2.

When you go and buy your PS2, make sure to pick up Dynasty Warriors 3, DAMMIT!!!

Morpheus XIII
05-02-2002, 05:26 AM
Recently, I have been hearing more and more about the Xbox's hardware malfunctions. Perhaps Microsoft should stick to their foundations, and quit trying to become "Microhard". By the way, some publications have reported that the units being constructed in Mexico have contributed to these problems. I don't know about you, but from what I have heard quality control is not really a prime directive there.

Maybe that's why so many heads are being turned by the factory defective machines.

It's not that the other brands don't have their share of problems. But seriously, the PS2 provides genuine entertainment over raw, unreliable, power (i.e. DOA3 failed to beat Capcom's newest crossbreeding in EGM's editor pick for the GOTY award; others have stated that DOA3 is "visually stunning", but lacking in playability. Not surprised. Microsoft must have built a domestic straight-line muscle car, while the Sony is a well-rounded machine). But the choice is really up to you. I see some software on the Box I really want, but the PS2 still outnumbers 100 fold what I see in the Xbox.

If you have anything otherwise to speak of, state your reasoning. And please make it logical reason, rather that pure bias.

babybutt1985
05-02-2002, 07:17 AM
The X-Box system is really not that bad, I wish the people on this site would not diss it so much. The x-box might have some problems but it really isn't a bad machine.

Morpheus XIII
05-03-2002, 04:12 AM
No doubt. I don't like it when biased competitor owners trash talk other products simply because they don't have them.

I prefer to scrutinize every system for what they are and aren't. Hell if I could, I'd buy everything, but limited funds keep me away from the XBox, but I'm almost there. I really want games like Jet Set Radio Future and Halo, but the XBox is still new, and I can wait. I had a PS2 before the other systems came out, and I bought a GameCube and Game Boy Advance simply because I am a hardcore nostagic Nintendo fan (btw, Squaresoft and Nintendo have just recently mended their broken ties, and the GC and GBA are slated to have products from the Final Fantasy franchise by the end of this year or early next). But I wouldn't mind having some XBox action, as long as more games are released, and the hardware becomes more stable. For now, there are simply too many occurances of hardware failure in the Microsoft units. So later seems like an appropriate time.

Seriously folks, study before you buy for your own sake. A perfect console system to one gamer might be a POS to another. Or just buy everything, if you can. And please don't bad talk without any basis for reasoning.

Morpheus XIII
05-03-2002, 04:22 AM
By the way, if you want to read some unbiased hard data from Gamepro concerning system hardware problems, read my quotes from this thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t23993.html).

Tom_S8
05-03-2002, 05:56 AM
Anyway , look at the poll results... PS2 OWNZ Joo... And that's the way it should be... and what's up with all that hype about HALO? It's quite good , but a good FPP for PC kills it easily... I have PS one (actually 2 of them , selling both now) saturn , dreamcast , SNES , N64 , Gamecube , PS2 "JDM" and european PS2... The JDM one is modded like hell...seriously.... it has a transparent-blue body cover , has many hardware mods... New chips... you can play everything on it , DVD movies from all over the world , DVD-R copies of movies and games , games from all regions , CDRs , PS one games from all regions and so on... Plus it has new optic changed recently , and is reballanced to play DVD-Rs good... it also has a new better cooling system... really i ain't joking... But i decided not to buy XBOX... i buy every system out there... but i find this XBOX is not worth...

Morpheus XIII
05-06-2002, 03:54 AM
Tom_S8, I have to fully agree with the PC being the premier machine for 'first-person shooters'. PCs have far more FPS titles than all other consoles combined, allow the best networking/multiplayer abilities, and most importantly, generally use a mouse for targeting--accuracy you REALLY cannot replicate with any analog stick. Halo is still a pretty good game (it reminds me of the simplistic fun of Goldeneye on N64), but I would rather be playing titles like Quake or Counterstrike.

Another fact to add to lists--the Xbox cannot play burned audio CDs. The PS2 can.

By the way, does anyone know where to get a decent PC internal DVD writer?

2001 AE
05-23-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Morpheus XIII
By the way, if you want to read some unbiased hard data from Gamepro concerning system hardware problems, read my quotes from this thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t23993.html).

All your STATEMENTS are nice but you can use them to prove whatever you are attempting to prove. I'm glad you a so happy with your PS2. Most X-Box users are pleased with their systems as well. Sure a some X-Box systems were bad and owners were justifiably ticked about it and I would be ticked too if mine went bad....BUT IT HASN'T. I'm sure the PS2 also had SOME problems too when first released, but there is no mention of that. You have too many posts against the X-Box, (some of them rather long I might add) if you enjoy your PS2 so much ho do you find the time to post so much?

Morpheus XIII
06-01-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by 2001 AE
I'm sure the PS2 also had SOME problems too when first released, but there is no mention of that. You have too many posts against the X-Box, (some of them rather long I might add) if you enjoy your PS2 so much ho do you find the time to post so much?

Are you KIDDING? Have you even bothered to read my post in that thread where I left a link? In case you haven't, I'll quote part of it here:

---[GamePro] April 2002: U) In our July 2001 issue, we received a letter from a reader who had problems playing blue-bottomed CD-ROM games on his PS2. Though Sony would not confirm that there was a problem with PS2s playing blue-bottomed CD-ROM discs, we've received many more letters from readers who have experienced the same problem--too many to take Sony's response lying down. When we contacted EA about loading problems with Madden 2002 (a CD-ROM), a customer service representative informed us that some PS2s do, in fact, have problems reading blue-bottomed discs. According to the rep: "A lot of PS2s have been scratching up our games. Sometimes, the PS2 will read blue-bottomed discs incorrectly, and sometimes the laser lens will scratch the game. Sony won't say anything about it. If you're experiencing this, try out the game on another system. If it works, it's probably a hardware problems and you'll want to contact Sony's customer service. If it doesn't work, contact EA's customer service."

One of our industry contacts also confirmed this: "This is a hardware problem and not necessarily a problem with the discs themselves. We've seen [these kind of] problems with the PS2s partly due to the fact that unlike the PlayStation, in which games lock into place, the PS2 uses magnets to hold discs in place. CD-ROMs are thinner than DVD-ROMs and tend to wobble more. As a result, the read heads tend to scratch CD-ROMs more than different media types. If you keep your PS2 in a vertical position, the problem is twice as bad."

Sony was unable to give an official response and claims that it has not received any such complaints itself.---

Another well known problem is the PS2 overheating ailment. The PS2 seems to "burn out" and won't turn on. Two of my friends in fact have run into this, and both admitted it was because they rarely turned the machine off, and left it in a dusty corner. People NEED to understand that these machines should be treated more like desktop or notebook computers, rather than old-fashioned bang 'em up Nintendo and SNES sytems, back when you could blow into the cartridge to clean it, and break off plastic bits to play Japanese games (now, we have the ever complex modchip). Of course, if you simply have a defective unit, then that's just bad luck, and you need to take advantage of the warrantee. (I've never had the PS2 problem, but I baby all my systems). One helpful tip might be to invest in a separate DVD-player, instead of racking up more hours on your XBox or PS2. Each movie you watch is the same as 2-3 hours of game time, and it adds up pretty quickly.


You might notice that this entire quote is about the PS2's known and reported problems. You might also notice if you check that thread that this information took up two-thirds of my post. Also the latter part of the quote is not a simple magazine quote, but something that I reported myself, based on information that I accumulated. I don't make biased decisions. I would take an Xbox if I could afford it, but at this point I have to settle for 2 out of 3 of the next gens, and honestly, at this point the Xbox just doesn't do enough for me. It has nearly a mirror image of the PS2's capabilities and gaming genre, but with fewer games, and declining support (fewer overall units sold leads to less 3rd party software support)--particularly internationally. For more pertinent information on that, read this other thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=468079#post468079) and please read it this time before making rude comments like "if you enjoy your PS2 so much ho do you find the time to post so much".

Sonic 67
06-05-2002, 09:26 AM
ps2 'cause it has the best damn games out there. If ps2 get a tv show it will be called 'the best damn game system period'!

babybutt1985
06-05-2002, 12:43 PM
Are you not a true gamer or what??
cause a true gamer wouldn't just keep going on about PS2 if you are a true gamer you would like all systems

2001 AE
07-24-2002, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Morpheus XIII


You might notice that this entire quote is about the PS2's known and reported problems. You might also notice if you check that thread that this information took up two-thirds of my post. Also the latter part of the quote is not a simple magazine quote, but something that I reported myself, based on information that I accumulated. I don't make biased decisions. I would take an Xbox if I could afford it, but at this point I have to settle for 2 out of 3 of the next gens, and honestly, at this point the Xbox just doesn't do enough for me. It has nearly a mirror image of the PS2's capabilities and gaming genre, but with fewer games, and declining support (fewer overall units sold leads to less 3rd party software support)--particularly internationally. For more pertinent information on that, read this other thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=468079#post468079) and please read it this time before making rude comments like "if you enjoy your PS2 so much ho do you find the time to post so much".

Morpheus XIII, you are correct. You did mention PS2 flaws and I was wrong to state in error that you did not, but I was not rude at all in wondering where you find the time to post so much against the X-Box. I was only stating the facts based upon the number and frequency of X-Box related posts by you.

:)

Mrcoilover
07-24-2002, 01:07 PM
Best system out now is X-Box. Now that X-box is making all the good sports games (Madden, NHL, and so-forth), It's only a matter of time until PS2-ers convert to Xbox. That is why Sony is working on their new system to keep up with Xbox. PS2 is good, don't get me wrong, but their is too much potential in the X-box and you got a game machine backed by Bill Gates.

Mrcoilover
07-24-2002, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Morpheus XIII
Tom_S8, I have to fully agree with the PC being the premier machine for 'first-person shooters'. PCs have far more FPS titles than all other consoles combined,

It's also a computer. We all know that a computer dominates that.

2001 AE
07-24-2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Mrcoilover
Best system out now is X-Box. Now that X-box is making all the good sports games (Madden, NHL, and so-forth), It's only a matter of time until PS2-ers convert to Xbox. That is why Sony is working on their new system to keep up with Xbox. PS2 is good, don't get me wrong, but their is too much potential in the X-box and you got a game machine backed by Bill Gates.

Great post.....You rule!

merc50
07-24-2002, 11:27 PM
I did not think it would turn out this way for me but I am playing far more X box than PS2 now. I still get out GT3, but that is it. The cars seem sharper to me in PGR, but the reflection and colors are not as good as GT3 on the cars. That being said I still think the cars look better in the replays on the X box. The game I want to see is SGT 2002 on X box...I imagine that game will have more of an GT3 look and feel. I never noticed the jaggies in the PS2 until I started playing a lot of X box. I don't like the GC for the same reasons I don't like the N64...Im not into the N style of games. Dreamcast is just dead and I don't like to think about it anymore...good while it lasted.

ATLAS2002
10-04-2002, 01:15 PM
This is hard......I like the Dreamcast But i also like the Gamecube. Since the game cube has all the same games as the Dreamcast i'll say Gamecube. I own over a 100 systems and over 4000 games.

jessethelip
11-29-2002, 09:28 AM
XBOX:finger:

Misundaztood
01-19-2003, 07:49 PM
PS2. The sheer amount of old-school, new-school games out helps it take the cake.

MaximusGTR
01-26-2003, 03:52 AM
by far PS2

GTStang
03-02-2003, 02:37 AM
I think the PS2 has better game selection still right now.But the XBOX is the superior machine. The XBOX is basically a computer and that means you can do all the fun stuff with an XBOX you can with a comp. I'm into XBOX hacking and after some Mod-chip install. I have not had to buy 1 XBOX game. I save them all to my hardrive and just play them right off it. When it starts up The screen greets me personally. My XBOX is now a full blown computer and is always on the network at my house. That is why XBOX is #1 for me

arthur12187
03-07-2003, 06:23 PM
ps2, cube, box!

MaximusGTR
03-08-2003, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by GTStang
I think the PS2 has better game selection still right now.But the XBOX is the superior machine. The XBOX is basically a computer and that means you can do all the fun stuff with an XBOX you can with a comp. I'm into XBOX hacking and after some Mod-chip install. I have not had to buy 1 XBOX game. I save them all to my hardrive and just play them right off it. When it starts up The screen greets me personally. My XBOX is now a full blown computer and is always on the network at my house. That is why XBOX is #1 for me

You make me want to get one now

GTStang
03-11-2003, 12:51 AM
LOL, Did I mention you can play NES,SNES,Sega Genesis, PS! games all on the Xbox too

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