Yamaha Tech 3 + Laguna Seca

I wish you good luck! :-)

Thank John this could help, but my question is "how do you prepare the decalized surfaces before the 2K?"
There are fingerprints, decal glue etc, so "degrease" the surface is very important. Usually I try to wash the fairing with some cotton and soap but it's easy to scrap the smaller decal...
Anyone have any suggestions?:uhoh:

sorry for my late reply Andrea - when I have fingerprints - decal glue - water marks etc to remove, I use a mild soap("Tide" powder that is phosphate free)/"distilled" water mixed and gently wash the surface with a "cheese cloth" (cloth that does not leave lint on the surface) and then I dry it with 100% cotton pads (like the ones women use for applying cosmetics and removing nail polish). I never use anything but "distilled water" to wash the plastic with once I start painting with the primer, otherwise there are chemicals and minerals in the water that can damage the decals and interfere with the paint/clear process. I can PM a picture of what I use if you would like? I hope this is not too late to help you Andrea - These two scale replicas are looking very good and I really would like them to come out perfect. If you have to, try on the Tech3 first - if you damage the decals I can send you a replacement set of decals, as I have two of those kits and I will only build one as a Tech3 version. - John

Thank you John, I should have needed the decal some days ago, 2 layers of decal should have been perfect. I understand your procedure. Today I washed and cleaned all the fairings and they looks good. Tomorrow I will try with a thin layer of x-22 to seal the decal, expecially the chromed one on the front cowl and then I will procede with 2K....

These 3 days worked with 2K. First of all, as I thought, a thin layer of x-22 to protect the decals, expecially the chromed n. 5

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Second day the first coat of 2K quite thick and the day after a second coat wet (like water)

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There is something to make, some dust particles to remove but the big job is done....:p

Andrea - those body pieces look beautiful - it is like glass. Don't worry about a couple of dust spots they will rub out just fine. The overall look and effect is fantastic. Did the "metalic" number 5 of Edwards lose any metal effect when you put on the clear? From the picture I cannot completely see. Was your X-22 acrylic or enamel? Overall this came out great - I hope mine is half as good. - John

Thanks John the chromed n5 is still chrome... :)
I used the acrylic x-22. To tell the truth it was not tamiya but Gunze, anyway it's the same paint.

Hi,

Beautiful work on the monster bike. For the clear part. Did you use gunze mr topcoat to protect the decals? I had a bad experience using 2k clear from zero paints. The clear crawled under the decals. Did you spray a thin coat of gunze or a wet coat.

Lesley

Nice work Andrea! You sparyed the clear very good. I like it!
Did you make some test? How well sticks the 2 k clear over the gunze/tamiya acrilic clear?

@eyckle: I used the aqueos line from Gunze, the same of tamiya X-22 acrylic. I sprayed a thin coat, anyway these paint don't give any problems with decals. It's since many year I use 2K on decal with no problem.
@Tibi: I didn't make any test... :naughty: To tell the truth some days ago, as I decided to use only gunze acrylic I sprayed the front fender with gunze, but when I used the 2K on the rear cowl, I didn't resist.... :biggrin: I sprayed the 2K on the front fender too and nothing happened. So I decided this solution to protect decal and avoid the little holes sometimes appear with 2K (dirty surface)
It seems the 2k sticks well on x-22..... (I hope.... :eek7:) but Iwill not try to peel it off..... :biggrin:

I started the polishing job, micromesh and compound.... pretty boring...
Assembled the shift linkage:

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I have placed a thermoformed (?) tube on the pedal

I have filed the pin for the aft tank cover and placed a dummy screw on it (hooby design)

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So closing the tanks:

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See you !

Completed the front cowl too, I'm near the end.... :)

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It look's great! Can wait the finish! :smile:

looks very good Andrea - how is the Laguna version coming? - John

4 pictures before finish the fairings and close her... :frown:

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Another problem with Laguna Seca decals.... :mad:
As you ca see from the pictures the writing SEMAKIN on the left side of the rear cowl is wrong. In the real bike is up and on the right in the decal is on the left.... I thought to make another black shape on which place the white writing but the writing on the decal is... CLEAR!!!!

Andrea, the Tech 3 bike looks beautiful!

Another problem with Laguna Seca decals.... :mad:
As you ca see from the pictures the writing SEMAKIN on the left side of the rear cowl is wrong. In the real bike is up and on the right in the decal is on the left.... I thought to make another black shape on which place the white writing but the writing on the decal is... CLEAR!!!!
hi andrew, if i can help you with these SEMAKIN decals please write me. I would be glad to help you

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probably you can paint all these area in black and use a new "SEMAKIN DI DEPAN" white decal.

Hello Miguel I will really appreciate your help.... tell me how.... You may contact me with private message.
Thanks

Andrea - that's a shame there are so many errors in the ST27 decals? I have the Lorenzo version and I will have to check when I get home to determine if it is also wrong. - John

They are wrong too John, I saw them on HLJ site.

Andrea - have you seen the decals for the Laguna round that Nicolecron make?? is their decals any better? - John

Andrea - have you seen the decals for the Laguna round that Nicolecron make?? is there decals any better? - John

No I don't find them....

A little step forward....

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I need to touch up where the lower black meet the upper black....
Now I need the white writings... :)

Awsome build. Where did you get the decals for the mick doohan rothmans honda you have in the 2nd and third pics? Been after these for ages, i heard they were available but i cant find them!!

It's a Honda NSR kit from S27. I'm building it for a friend of mine... but it's almost one year.... :iceslolan

A little step forward....

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I need to touch up where the lower black meet the upper black....
Now I need the white writings... :)
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Fantastic...!!!!

Hi Miguel,

I took your advice about spraying X22 over the decals before shooting 2k over it. It works great. No more problems. Thanks for the advice.

Lesley

cheers mate, where do you get your s27 stuff from, i use hiroboy a bit but they dont have the rothmans kit? Thanks again!! Go Casey Stoner!!!!!!!

Today some work on the rear cowl.
Made the carbon decal and placed the faces' decal. This is short but it can be adjusted with a spare decal S27 placed on the decal sheet. The white gap must be thinner.

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Number 46 is wrong too.... :mad: Too small and colors too dull . We can use the tamiya original one. You may see the difference:

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Were really the decal for the 2004/2005 model ???

Tech 3 completed....

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Andrea - the Tech3 bike is beautiful - the paint is like glass - excellent detail without going overboard. The exhaust heat staining is not too much and looks very realistic. Your clear and finish polish and wax is evident of your skills. One thing though - slicks "tyres" never have a molding rib down the center - If it was mine I would lightly sand down the rubber flash and then apply a small amount of "oil" to the rubber to make it shiny like a new set of slicks. I would use a light cooking oil to get the shine back. New slicks do have a glistening shine to them that we used to use a "tyre" compound to wash off before we put on "tyre" warmers and went on the track. - John

Thank John , I discussed about molding rib on the italian forum. I know that it is there, but when I sanded the rib it seemed to be like... recessed... and I was afraid to overdone with sandpaper and change the shape of the tire. Usually I airbrush satin/flat clear on the rubber

Andrea - what happened to the tyres set that had the white band on the sidewall with the bridgestone from the first page? also how did you do that - did you have a template? or did you mask it? - also I understand your dilemma about the tyres and the molding rib- John

Andrea, you did a great job on the Tech 3 bike!
Looks really really great! Can wait to see you Laguna Seca version finished!

Andrea - what happened to the tyres set that had the white band on the sidewall with the bridgestone from the first page? also how did you do that - did you have a template? or did you mask it? - also I understand your dilemma about the tyres and the molding rib- John
Hello John
that tires are for the Laguna Seca version. I installed them on my dremel and spinned them slowly. With a thin brush I used an acrylic flat white to paint the band. Let only the brush to touch the whell and the rotation make the job... :)

Thanks to Mask which sent me the correct, white, semakin writing and thanks to Mauro which send me a spare couple of 46 numbers.
The rear cowl is ready to a soapy wash and clear process

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I noticed a decal on the right side is missing. Going to place it....

Looking great Andrea - John

Thanks to Mask which sent me the correct, white, semakin writing and thanks to Mauro which send me a spare couple of 46 numbers.
The rear cowl is ready to a soapy wash and clear process

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I noticed a decal on the right side is missing. Going to place it....
looks great!! its only one decal or two coats? (these deacals are printed whith an ALPS MD1000 printer.)

Hello Miguel
I used two layers of decals. Thanks

Finally yesterday I clear coated the rear cowl with 2K..... I can't believe it.... :tongue:
I used a thin layer of aeromaster clear paint below instead of tamiya, just to test it.

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Looks like everything turned out okay Andrea? was there a problem with the way the clear went on? I don't see any issues that cannot be fixed?? - John

Hey, Great job! I'm doing right now Laguna Seca - I still have to do a few details and I have done
May you post some pictures?

Yes, here is my bike

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Nice job! Did you have the same decals problems I had?

Andrea - despite the problems it looks like everything came out looking great - will like to see the finished bike with PE and details - John

I'm sorry for the mis-understanding Andrea - I should have realized that was not your bike because the rear cowl lettering is incorrect and I know that was something you wanted to correct. Also I checked the "nicolecron" Laguna Seca decals and they have the lettering separate on the rear cowl from the black background so a person can correct the flaw that is with the ST27 decals - John

I saw the nicolecron.... I suppose they are new. The semakin writing is correct and the black stripe for the rear cowl seems to be correct too. A better choice instead S27

I saw the nicolecron.... I suppose they are new. The semakin writing is correct and the black stripe for the rear cowl seems to be correct too. A better choice instead S27


Yes your are correct Andrea - I just ordered a set of the Bike decals and the "rossi" leathers suit decals from Nicolas - at Nicolecron. I have purchased other decals that he sells and they are all very good quality. - John

Finally something visible :tongue:

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I have placed a resin bolts for the exhaust

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Andrea - nice carbon work on the exhaust hanger - also great detail on the exhaust pipe/muffler in general. I thought the rear cowl lettering was supposed to be different from what you have. The rear lettering you have is like the ST27 decals?? I thought you noted that was a mistake in the decals from the reference pictures you have. still it all looks great - John

I thought the rear cowl lettering was supposed to be different from what you have. The rear lettering you have is like the ST27 decals?? I thought you noted that was a mistake in the decals from the reference pictures you have. still it all looks great - John
Hello John I don't understand what you mean.... :frown: Which letters? Semakin Di Depan ?

Hello John I don't understand what you mean.... :frown: Which letters? Semakin Di Depan ?

Sorry Andrea - my miss-understanding - Yes those letters. I was talking about what you had discovered pg3 last entry this thread. It wasn't that the writing was wrong it was that the writing was "clear" and required a white background to show thru the letters. Now I fully understand the error with the ST27 decals. - John

Sorry Andrea - my miss-understanding - Yes those letters. I was talking about what you had discovered pg3 last entry this thread. It wasn't that the writing was wrong it was that the writing was "clear" and required a white background to show thru the letters. Now I fully understand the error with the ST27 decals. - John

Hello John the decal are clear and are wrong too. Take a look at the position of "semakin di depan" on the left and on the right. They are different on the real bike but the same on S27 decals....

Hello John the decal are clear and are wrong too. Take a look at the position of "semakin di depan" on the left and on the right. They are different on the real bike but the same on S27 decals....

Yes I see that now Andrea - you have done a great job with attention to detail on the bikes you are building - many people have been viewing this thread you have started and I am sure it has helped many and given others some good ideas to build theirs - - John

Just to show you I'm doing nothing.... :tongue:
Worked at the windshield which has a little piece of the 46 number. Did a new white decal and correct the white little circle on the number (which is the white rivet on the front cowl) as it went on the windshield. In the beginning I did it by brush, in the second moment I decided to sacrifice a new decal to cut the orange/blu stripes and cover it. After all just a swim into the future.
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Painted all with 2K , added some screws and PE

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Andrea - I have learned a lot from these builds of yours - which company screws for the body panels did you use? - John

Andrea - I have learned a lot from these builds of yours - which company screws for the body panels did you use? - John

They are from MFH John

Completed the front cowl, it took a lot of time with decal and clear windshield.

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Corrected the decal into the air inlet with an home made decal. Now I discovered in the picture a little bubble I didn't see with my eyes.... I have to correct it. :sunglasse

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Working now on the steering sensor...

I'm trying to correct the little bubble, but it's not easy and the result will not be like a brand new fairing.... :mad:
Pictures of the whole assembly

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Some details

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Something is still missing, some PE bolts , rear camera, seat, and front axle bolt. Hope to finish in the weekend.....

Amazing job....!!! totally impressssss!!!! The M1 it's a great model , and with that decoration even better.
Keep going, keep going......

Can I ask you, what references are you using from T2M bolts, to get the correct size for 1/12..?
Thanks for it.
Regards from Spain.