Wrx Is King!

The ne Rex is the best sub-compact out there right now, for the price, it cant be beat!

Bang for your buck over here you would be correct but best sporty sedan overall Id way prefer an M3 and so would most people if money was no object. Especially since the new WRX is so ugly compared to the old one and you dont have the STi in America

Well in a price/performance comparo the WRX would win....but you didn't state that sooooooo...M3. :)

Based solely on the choices you provided, WRX.:D

STi vs EVO7 is a much better comparison.

I almost went with M3, but i realized that if i wanted to take my very fast sedan off road, which i most likely will, i wouldn't do that with the M3, so WRX it is!

How many WRX owner really take their car for off road usage?

When I get by WRX STi, with about 10 grand in some nice mods, it will be doing rallys. So for me, its the WRX. And when we get the STi, I'm willing to bet $50 it'll be faster than the M3.

Perhaps theres so many WRX supporters because you dont have them, theyre really common over here and although they are a very nice car I would choose an M3 anyday.

M3 Performance: 0-100 km/h 5.8 secs, standing 1/4 13.7 secs

M Coupe: 0-100 km/h 4.9 secs, standing 1/4 13.5 secs

1998 WRX (newest i can find and the new shape is slower): 0-100 km/h 5.5 secs, standing 1/4 14.2 secs

1998 STi (once again new ones are slower): 0-100 km/h 4.6 secs, standing 1/4 13.3 secs.

Once you consider that the version 7 Sti is alot heavier witht he same motor as the 1998 there wont be alot of time in it. And look the M3 will be catching fast, Sti only beats it on better traction at the start.

Plus you ever heard an M3 being pushed, that exhaust note is enough to make me want it, its my favourite engine, I lonve the sound of it

Take a special version of an STi, like 22B. Those are REALLY fast:ylsuper

Subaru Impreza 22B
276 hp
0-30mph = 1.7
0-60mph = 5.0
0-100mph = 13.0
Standing 1/4 = 13.7 @ 102 mph

That is a supremely poorly driven example. C&D got one to 60 in around 4.5 seconds.

Acceleration times? That's all this is being based on??? Surely there's more to performance driving than just drag-racing??

Anyway, the 22B isn't the best Impreza, it would be the P1 or probably even the RB5. The 22B is just too extreme and uncompromising, especially on UK roads.

Whilst we're on the subject of Imprezas, will someone tell me how an already aesthetically challenged car could get uglier? The new one is repulsive! What were they thinking?? Theres talk that there will be a facelift as sales have been poor. Anyone know the deal?

cheers
jay

M3 will edge out new generation STi slightly.

I like the old Subbie. The new one is kinda homely (although they are selling of them they can over here), it really needs new Prodrive lights like the WRC car.
I dont think they will have a restlyle, although some things should be changed.

About a comparison between an STi and M3, we will probably see one soon.;)

The new M3 whips the WRX, and kicks the UK300's ass... outspeeds, outhandles both

as for M3 V STi, it'll be closer but the M3 should see it off.. it all depends on what you want... do you want to drive, or be driven? ;)

cheers
jay

Hey guys, I have to give the WRX some snaps as a quick little car. But I must stay true to my heart. GTR Skylines are still the big dog :p
Seriously though, my friend has a US WRX and its a zippy little thing, a bit of turbo lag though. I think he could get rid of it IF HE"D LEARN TO DRIVE A TURBO CAR!!!!! He never keeps it above 3500rpm when he's lookin for trouble. I keep tellin him, you have to be runnin that boost so you can be ready to jump but he doesn't listen :mad:
I am a bit unsure as to whether or not I like the looks. I'm torn between "Strange bug eyed alien" and "Mean Little Front End"
Anyhow, they are fun to drive for sure and they'll smoke most of the accords, stangs, maros, and such around were I am. And they are fun as hell to take through the twisties.

I like mine just fine. :alien2:

i want one!!!!!!!!:(

ever since i drove my mates impreza i've wanted one badly!

i want a 1995 model in black, tints, black leather, slammed to the ground with gold 17" alloys, stainless steel exhaust with 5" tailpie, wrx boot spoiler and a hugmungeous JBL system.:D my time will come!

i want a 1995 model in black, tints, black leather, slammed to the ground with gold 17" alloys, stainless steel exhaust with 5" tailpie, wrx boot spoiler and a hugmungeous JBL system. my time will come!

oh dear... MAXPower reader by any chance?

Sounds a little ricey to me. Not my "cup of tea", but thats me.

The only decal on my car will be "The Anti-Rice"

:mad: I ABSOLUTELY HATE MAX POWER, FAST CAR, REDLINE, REVS...WHY DOES EVERYONE ASSOCIATE ME WITH THAT TRIPE! FULL OF BRAND NEW CARS WITH THOUSANDS SPENT ON IT THAT THE AVERAGE READER CAN'T POSSIBLY AFFORD TO SPEND ON THEIR CARS IN THEIR LIFETIME. anyway the average age is 14 for kiddies to dream and oggle at the semi nude pics. best in the world? ha!:rolleyes: dream on.

i've always like the impreza ever since i first saw one in a scooby dealer ship when my younger sister had work experience. it was a colin mc crae special edition. i got brouchers and every thing. the next step when i had a chance to drive a 'terzo' met blue with gold rims. man i was hooked. when i get mine i won't ring max power or the like cos they ain't worth it. :D

I ABSOLUTELY HATE MAX POWER, FAST CAR, REDLINE, REVS...WHY DOES EVERYONE ASSOCIATE ME WITH THAT TRIPE!

cos the description of the impreza you want screams of tacky add-ons, and those 3 spoke alloys, (clear rear lenses?), and body mods on your (lowered?) sierra do nothing to ditch this maxpower image that as you say is often associated to you

cheers
jay

so you're telling me that everybody here drives a standard motor?! i don't think modifying cars is tacky, its about making your car unique to you. unfortuantely i and many others get cheesed off when we are refered to boy racers and read boy racer mags.

fair enough you got a point about the 3 spokes but for £40 for the 7.5 x 16" alloys on their own i had to get them. (£40 is same cost to fill up my tank) if i could afford to i would have a decent set of rims. with a new set of 16" with tyres costing up to £700, my wheels cost me £280 inc brand new tyres.

you can't just associate everyone with a modded car to be a max power reader. i don't roar round like a looney and cause accidents or do wheel spins and handbrake turns in my local supermarket carpark. i might not spend a lot on my car, i work long hours for sod all money anyway so what ever i get i try to make my car my personal car, my own touches. tacky or whatever you may think of it, i just happen to like it as do my friends. i paid for my car, paid for my insurance and everything, unlilke the spoilt brats who gets their saxo vtr's paid for by mummy and daddy and think they're the dogs and race everybody only to stick it in a ditch and blame it on something else.

are you saying that this guys impreza is tacky? it what i hope to have in a couple of years time, but with gold alloys.

OK, thats not Fast Car material, which is good. Now I will no longer associate you with Ben or Scary Steve:D

I didn't say modifying cars is tacky. In fact, it can be done in a very tasteful way that makes the car look much better.
As for the 3 spoke alloys, there's a reason why they were so cheap. You say you don't want to be associated with MaxPower, Revs etc, but then you make the excuse that they were so cheap it doesn't matter what they look like. 3 spoke alloys are the symbol of boy racers. They're ugly, tacky, and look cheap. You seem to have doubts about them yourself.
I appreciate the fact that you financed everything involved with the car, good on you, but I don't see why it's necessary to have a go at "spoilt brats" who get cars given to them by their parents. If this were true I would be one of these "spoilt brats" as my parents bought me my car. I don't see anything wrong with the fact they did that, i hope to be able to repay their generosity by doing the same in the future.

At the end of the day, you're completely right. To each their own. If you like it, that's all that counts. All i did was voice my own opinion, which you disagreed with. I think your car is MaxPower material (front cover), you don't, end of story.

As for the Impreza, IMHO, it's somewhat lacking in taste and is vulgar. But that's my opinion. I don't like the way they look, but I have a lot of respect for what they do and the way they go.


cheers
jay

Why are you comparing M3 with Impreza? Because of performance, well if so Impreza is the beast and the M3 is the best equation of power/quality/performance/luxury/STYLING
And of course Skyline and Evo VII or even VI V IV are better than that thing with egg lights.
I still haven´t seen any Subaru to look just right. Well maybe the previous stock Impreza (not with those silly and ugly huge wings or fenders) did look cool

now how many of u people have actually driven a WRX, i have since i work at the subaru dealership and i would take a WRX over a M3 anyday. for real world performance and bang for the buck, the WRX is the way to go, and it already has so many mods out there that if u modified a WRX up to the amount of money u spent on a M3 u would have a WRX that goes 0-60 mph in 4.0 sec. flat and 1/4 miles in the mid to lower 12's. i race RX-7's and love the rotary, but once we got the WRX's in our shop, my soul was sold to the scooby. and for all u rich bastards out there, i would rally my new WRX because i know how to drive one with the intensity of Colin McRae. besides the new M3 isn't even all-wheel drive and is alot more pricier to mod up and get more potential out of it. i do agree the the new WRX isn't as pretty as the old ones or as fast either, but go down to your local Subaru dealership and test one out, it easily goes 90 mph in 3rd gear with out breakin a sweet, or any signs of problems, and this is stock too! not to mention u get alot better gas mileage from the new scooby than u would with the M3, like i said, welcome to the real world performance factor, u rich punks!!!!:flipa: :finger: :flipa:

Uh, no one is dissing the WRX. Anyone who does is pretty single-minded IMO. But you can't deny the M3 either, a subbie will never be as luxurious inside without big money. (PS, the M3 is gettting too luxurious and heavy for my tastes.)

Me, I'd take the WRX anyday. I am a huge subbie fan, and I would mod it and rally it if it were mine.

OUCH.. wrx or m3. both different cars but hard choice

for luxurious speeding - M3 all the way

for the pedal to the metal off a cliff on a mountain feeling - WRX!!!!!!

sooo whatever.. bvut the wrx isnt as good looking

dont get me wrong, i like the M3 alot too, but for my taste in performance and no need for too much luxury, the WRX is the way to go. who needs leather interior in a sports car anyway, id toss them out for a pair of Recaro race buckets and 5 point harness anyway! but i do wish the the WRX had a 6 speed tranny like the M3, that would be fuckin awesome! but only the STi version is blessed with such options. P.S. have any of you looked at the article on the stage II WRX on www.cobbracing.com it is absolutely amazing what they can do to the new scooby. same as the M2 performance WRX that was tested in Sport Compact Car Magazine, it was pure sports car with 4 doors. anyway, the WRX is definately the car for us enthusiasts with a really heavy foot and not so deep of pockets.:smoker2:

opps!!! wrong address, it was www.cobbtuning.com that has the Subaru tuning specialists that are stationed in Texas near the Dallas area. these guys know how to make some basass scooby's!!!:sun:

Well about the new WRX i like the New Look @ first i hated it but now i'm getting used to it Plus in about 6 - 8 months i will be buying a STi

Just my 2 cents

koldor, are u from here in America? if so, have u heard of any news of a the STi version coming here? i would love to see the STi grace the streets of America and stomp all of those damn Cameros and Mustangs who think there top shit!

rezdog_420>

subaru impreza WRX => 22mpg
BMW M3 => 23.7mpg
so much for "a lot better gas mileage"

and whats all this sh*t about "rich punks"? because someone prefers the M3 it makes them a rich punk? how about it looking at the decision as showing a little taste? the impreza is ugly, looks like sh*t inside, will depreciate 10 times faster than the M3. Therefore, it is cheaper to buy, more expensive to run, not as fast, less involving (the steering feels like wool to name one of many flaws), and will return less money when you wish to sell (which you will inevitably want to do when the newer, uglier, impreza comes out in 5 years time)
so you "know how to drive with the intensity of colin mcrae?" how impressive.. tell me, which team do you race for in the wrc? after all you work for subaru someone should have noticed your talent by now
"the new M3 isnt even all wheel drive?" OH NO! what a disaster, what a shortcoming!! i guess ferraris had better ditch the rwd system they have on all their cars and go for AWD, no wait, FWD, maybe you think thats best.. and you know what? even F1 cars should be 4wd... that would make things interesting.. real racing.... if you havent quite got it, im being sarcastic. RWD is what a sports car is all about. a 4wd chassis does offer more grip, but is easier to drive (therefore less of a challenge, therefore less of a sports car) and is heavier too.
i suspect you have driven the M3 to launch such a scathing attack on it... you have driven it, havent you?

na mate i'm Australian And they released it in December 2001 to bad its only the 195 Kw one not the 206 kw one

I kinda agree with crayzayjay, anyway the Lancer Evo is a hell of a car, much better than the Impreza; and better looking of course!!

Well, with confirmation that the EVO VII will be here in full 300+hp glory in a year, you can bet we will be getting the STi (personally, I'd get the subbie, but thats something else entirely!)

Well, with confirmation that the EVO VII will be here in full 300+hp glory in a year (Motor Trend, March), you can bet we will be getting the STi (personally, I'd get the subbie, but thats something else entirely!)

hey crazy, one thing im i lil too young to be racing in the rally cross circuit anyway bud, im only 17. plus the gas mileage figure your reading is a city driving mileage. im not bagging on the M3 at all buddy, i happen to like the BMW autos thank you very much mister cocky. the all-wheel drive thing u talk about, i only praise Subaru for having all of their cars in this format, it doesn't mean i dislike rear-wheel drive at all. fuck i own 4 cars and a truck that are rear-wheel drive, thats including my drag racing 89' Twin Turbo'd 5.0L Mustang that does mid 8's in the quarter mile. one thing is, i have been looked at for a racing team in the near future, but i still have to finish high school first!!! so get off my case!!! i have a racing license from Skip Barber Racing school that i aquired over the summer last year, and thats what i mean by the intensity of Colin McRae, i know how to race cars to there full potential! besides, what do u do for a living crazy, i happen to work in the mechanics area at the Subaru dealership, so thats why i praise the WRX's so much, they are fairly easy to work with opposed to a BMW, but doesnt mean i dont like BMW's. all im saying is that not that many people in the world have $35,000+ to fork out for a brand spanking new M3 from the dealership, and the WRX is a wonderful substitute for people and kids who want a cheaper alternative to something like the M3. truthfully, i wouldn't buy either the WRX or the M3 because the two daily driver cars that i drive would spank both the WRX and the M3 anyday. i own a 83' Mazda RX-7 with a 450hp TPI chevy V-8 with a 6 speed manual, which is my weekend car, and i also own a 96 Nissan 240SX with a turbo kit on it that pushes out 364hp, which i dyno'd 3 weeks ago which is the car i drive everyday, plus i have a S-15 Silvia front end conversion on it for my own personal styling. and to top it off i own a 95 Nissan pickup with a sr20det swap in it to haul my dirtbikes on my days off from work. and of course ive already mentioned my mustang that i drag race. my dad taught me everything i know about auto mechanics since he is the auto tech teacher at our local college. to tell u the truth i am probably the biggest Nissan fan most people have ever seen, i only like to talk about the WRX since i drive one everyday at work for fun, and i have to say the new WRX's are awesome cars for the money, especially for kids around my age. bottom line is both the M3 and WRX are totally awesome cars, but you really cant compare the two of them because they are in two entirely different categories of automobiles, the WRX is a sub-compact sedan or wagon built on the bugdet minded individual, and the M3 is a luxury sedan built for the driving enthusiasts with a little extra cash flow. so get over it, you cant compare these two cars!:newburn: :zx11pisse :finger4:

oh yeah crazy about your thing about driving a M3, yes i have! but like i said id rather stick with my 240SX just because i already have it and im a die hard Nissan fan, who wouldn't settle for anything else. the M3 drives very smooth, but it feels too luxurious for my tastes, i like things simple and with one purpose, to be connected with the driver at all times, the BMW has way too many electronics like traction control and stability controls (what they call there steering system?). it too much like the family car for dad when the kids and wife are gone, besides wheres the Recaro race buckets? just kiddin, im used too my Recaro's way too much, that id never have any other kind of seat. im just a typical teen who just doesn't right in a BMW, a cop would probably pull me over thinking im some drug dealer or something driving a new M3!!! haha, but anyway, id like to see a some guy try to whoop my ass racing me in a M3, while im in my 240SX, id spank him like a misbehaved child, no even better, a naughy nurse! haha, that would be the day when some preppy from school tries to race me with his BMW and find out that he spent $40,000 on a car that got its ass beat by a rice rocket!! hahaha, oh ive claimed too many Corvette ZO6's at racing that its impossible for a M3 to ever win!!!:sun: :finger:

sales aren't doing poorly, i dont care where you go, those damn WRX's are sold before they get into the show room. and about the STI and the M3, i would take the STI anyday, the STI is so much more heavily embraced by the aftermarket world....and they can made to look sexy.

ok, i agree with you on the point that no one has $35k+ to throw around for a new M3 (at least our age, i'm 17 too) but you have 4 cars, all modified...heavily, where do you get your money to put an sr20det in a pickup, and a TPI V8 into an rx7, and a turbo 240sx silvia conversion? i mean, shit, with all that you could have bought an M3.

where do i get my money, mostly from racing dirtbikes!! i race in the Arenacross events when there here in the west coast, and race all kinds of "A" (pro) class events in the AMA ametuer events which have some killer purse money. i won the 15-17 year old pro class series last year and got a total earnings of $128,000 all from just my motocross career last year, not including any of the years before!!! plus i also drag race and autocross for some serious cash too, so i only build cars that i know will succeed in all my events. plus im one of the head auto mechanics at our local Subaru/GMC/Mazda/Pontiac dealership since we sell all of these cars here, and i get paid at $28.75 an hour for my work so i have all kinds of income coming in. problem is my income tax is incredibly high for most if any kids my age. what im trying to say is, i earned all of my money from my talents in motorsports thank you very much, and wasn't handed down money from my parents (like most kids around here!!!). hell i make just as much money as my dad does in year!!! and he's mad about that, but he also proud of me at the same time! either way, i made myself rich instead of inheriting it from my parents, i just went out in the world and employed myself with the talents i have!!!:finger4:

true about your comment on how WRX's are sold fast, i work at the Subaru dealership, and we sell them faster than we even get them in, shit we have a waiting list for them so big that the last person i last looked at on the list wont get his until July this year!! these cars sell incredibly fast and we can never have them on the showroom floor for more than 2 days literally. oh yeah, importnut to tell u the truth these conversions and mods i have on my car are actually fairly cheap, the sr20det swap in my truck cost a total of $3,743 all in total, the TPI swap in my RX-7 cost a little under $5,000, but my 240SX mods is where the big bucks are at, i dont think it would be wise for me to say how much because i would make too many people shit their pants hearing how much money i could easily blow off on a car. but let me tell u, all of my mods and swaps were well worth the money that i invested into them! my Nissan truck has won numerous shows just for the fact i have a sr20det stuffed in there, my RX-7 has won all kinds of illegal drags around my town but i wont say where i live since i dont want cops impounding my car, and my 240SX is my grandest toy car thats in my garage, but the real big money spent is on all of the shit i have done with my dirtbikes, hell each bike i have has over $1,500 worth of motor mods in them, and thats just the motors, but thank god for sponsership!!!

im well aware of the fact they sell like hotcakes, did i say they didnt?

rezdog, im not on your case about driving skills, i just find it amusing to hear someone claim they can drive with the "intensity of colin mcrae". im sure youre very talented what i do for a living has nothing to do with my opinion on motor vehicles. funny how you referred to m3 owners as "rich punks" in your previous post when you brag of your earning power and list the number of cars you own...
and yes, you can compare these cars. just cos one has 2 doors and the other 4 it doesnt mean they are completely different. they are both real-world performance cars in different style packages and therefore price tags.
i think the BMW steering system youre referring to is steer-by-wire. if you think the M3 has too many driver aids what are you doing in an impreza? doesnt that sort out the handling for you? isnt it the ultimate flattering vehicle? if you want to feel connected to the road do something about the WRX's steering. then i might think about owning one.. then again, with those looks, maybe not. a car should be styled well from the start, not made to look good. im sorry but i even have to disagree with you about that statement. with those goofy bug eye front lights the new impreza could never be made to look good. i know many Impreza fanatics and we all agree on one simple fact. capable as the car may be (and its not as capable as the previous generation) it is ugly as hell. in fact, the only improvement over the old car i can think of is the interior. cars like the WRX and evo7 can be thrown however you want and the car will sort it out for you. if you like the 2l 4wd package, and i never said i didnt, i have nothing against it, in fact one of my dream cars is the Lancia Integrale EVO. the steering and handling of this car on the limit sh*ts all over that of any impreza. more entertaining to drive, more communication with the driver... oh ya, and its italian too. there are a few posts on it in the Lancia forum. check it out, and follow the link to the video.

cheers
jay

wait, wait my friends..wait till 2003, wait till the lancerevo vii comes to america..wrx sti will go down..

did i refer to M3 drivers as "rich punks," you must of heard my statement wrong crazy, im talkin about they ounk rich kids in my town who get their money from mommy and daddy and get all the brand new fuckin shit, with pisses of the rest of kids who have to earn their goods the hard way, THROUGH HARD WORK!!! u truthfully dont know how hard i busted my ass as a kid to get where im at, people stereotype me as this lil rich punks just because i drive nice cars, wear nice clothes, and have hot girls going with me to the parties. and that statement about me being in a WRX, i have to drive them! thats part of my job smartguy, u always have to test out each of the new incoming cars to the dealership, and u even have to drive each of the cars after they have been in the shop, but of course u knew this right??? and another thing, the cars that i autocross dont have any power steering either, thats the way a car should be built in the first place, the only car i own that has power steering is my 96 Nissan 240SX! a car without ABS brakes, power steering, or even cruise control that has well over 300 HP is a car that perfectly fits the description of a true sports car! thats what my RX-7 is! u think i haven't heard enough ridicule already, i get so much bitching from the die hard RX-7 fans, just because i stuffed a V-8 between the front fenders, they all say the same god damn thing to me, "why didn't u put in a 13B, or a 3 rotor 20B, or even a 4 rotor enigine?" if i own a 93 RX-7 instead of an 83, i would of taken the 20B triple rotary in perspective, but tell me if im a criminal or what, but how many people would like it if your rotary goes dead in the middle of nowhere with no one around to fix your rotary for 1000 miles away! with any kind of V-block engine in it, i can at least have Chevy guys work on it, and i could easily fix it myself too! the problem is there aren't too many people in the world like me that dare to be totally different. and for all those people out there like me, who can care less what other people think about your opinions, i would have to say you guys kick fuckin ass!! too many people are afraid to do anything different these days, half of my school parking lot is filled with tuned Hondas, all mostly Civics and maybe an Integra here and there, but u see all the same cars just with different styling or tuning, but the same damn car. literally every kid owns like a 92-00 Honda Civic, all mostly 2 door coupes and nothing else really. i couldn't be apart of this, i had to be my own trend setter, so i got my Nissan 240SX, the first day i rolled up to school in it, people dissed me badly just because i didn't have a fuckin Honda Civic. the funny thing is, now that im spankin all of these damn Honda's right and left with my turbo'd 240SX, a lot of kids are trying to do the same as me, now instead of me being the only kid in school with a 240SX, now there are 13 different 240's in the parking lot, even worse its the same damn kids that used to have Civics. the point of this story is that it doesn't matter if u have a WRX or a M3, or Porsche at that, people all start to fall into a trend cycle, Crazy, u probably used to like the WRX alot before they changed the styling on it, and u then fell in love with the M3 with its new sweet styling. im glad to see that u truthfully aren't one of these people though Crazy, im glad u do have an ultimate dream car like me (which is a Nissan Skyline R34). to tell u the truth i hate even having to argue which car is better, like are lil arguement between the WRX and the M3, we both know that both cars are fuckin sweet, drive fast, and definately turn eyes and smiles as they go by. quick question for ya Crazy, what kind of car are u rollin in these days, just curious to know???:bonghitte

You seemed to be aiming the rich punks quote to people who would choose the more expensive M3 over the WRX, thats what it comes across like, to me anyway.
And yeah, i know the cars are driven by employees. A friend of mine works for M-B and always seems to have a nice convertible he's cruising in. I didnt make any or smartass comments about you driving a WRX, all i said was that if you want a car that truly communicates with its driver there are better alternatives out there.
"too many people are afraid to do anything different these days".. youre very right there. Thats why there are a lot of Imprezas around now, around here anyway. im not blaming the owners, its just that the car has become the automatic choice for teenagers who want something quick. I personally am not a big fan of Imprezas. I respect what they do and what they stand for to some extent, but thats about it. i was more appreciative of the old car than the new one. that one was more engaging and much better looking too, though no oil painting itself. I "choose to be different" by going for an Integrale, which can do what the Impreza can and more, in a much more stylish package. about your nissan skyline, have you driven one? i wouldnt have thought it to be your kind of car, what with you wanting a raw driving experience. the R34 induces oversteer, it's programmed to do so, which i find pretty disappointing about the car. Still, theres no doubt its a hell of a fast car, though im sorry to say i dont like the looks on it either. its just too cartoonish for me. too much of a brute with no finesse whatsoever. i'd take a 964RS (one of the most amazing cars ever) 996GT3 or 993GT2 over it anyday, i'd even choose the integrale EVO above it despite the fact its 4 times cheaper. the whole japanese invasion has been too much, IMHO. from what i hear the evo7 is a one trick poney, the R34 flawed (as described above) and the WRX has lost its way somewhat. admittedly the STi is supposed to be a big improvement but the looks could never grown me.
right now im driving a mk3 1.6 Golf. I know, not exactly tyre-shredding or rubber-burning, but i still manage to drive it like a hooligan :D. Handbrake turns here i come! hopefully within the next 6 months i'll have the finances to buy a prime '95 Lagos Blu Lancia Delta Integrale EVO or perhaps an E36 M3 EVO. Only time, and cash, will tell. Otherwise, i'll go for something else, as long as it's "different" :cool:

cheers
jay

isnt the m3 a sports coupe??
or are we talking about the m5 sedan??
other than that...i would like the version V impreza or the lancer evo 5 or 6.

if we were talkin about the m5 i would not complain at all, it by far the most fuckin awesome car ever built!

As awesome as a GT3, or Maranello ?

.......didnt think so :D

cheers,
jay

but those arent as awesome as a Mclaren F1 either:o the M5 is a sweet ride that has 4 doors, room for 5 peps, and isnt priced over $100K either!:sun:

but like i stated on another thread, "the automotive industry is based on personal preference, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions." hell, if i had millions of dollars than hell yeah id buy my a Porsche GT3, but since im not even near that kind level yet i have to settle with my rice rockets, and american muscle cars! thats why i tune the hell out of my cars to get the most, other said the bang for the buck, from my rides.:rolleyes:

Well u did say its the most awesome car ever, which doesnt quite resonate with what you are saying now.... besides, an M5 is hardly cheap. and when it comes to GT3's, M5's and GT3's arent priced so differently over here. M5 is approx £50k and GT3 is around £70k, so i would save up the extra, take out a loan, do whatever to get my hands on the Porsche.

cheers,
jay

well not here in America, an M5 ususally runs for $80,000 and a GT3 runs for more than $150,000 here! so your the lucky one on this.

well, luckier than you, maybe. but not lucky as i cant afford either!

cheers,
jay

i respect porsches and all, but look at all of the people who drive them....middle aged bald men. i like the company, but have always seen it as kind of a substitute for a lack of confidance or manhood. i know you guys are gonna jump all over my nuts for that, but oh well.....to each his own right?