Recap of the Japanese F1 fleet - Take 2

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Peloton25

05-20-2010, 07:13 AM

mini magic

05-20-2010, 07:25 AM

Thank you so much Erik!

hurstg01

05-20-2010, 10:09 AM

Cool update Erik

Just noticed one thing so far -

#13R was bought by a German I believe, not someone from the UK, and it had dual residency (UK and Germany) as it was seen over here in the UK for a while whilst the winter regulations were in force in Germany (can't imagine the GTR in winter tyres for half the year). Kidston had it for sale but as for where it is now... :dunno:

DocGTR

05-20-2010, 01:07 PM

#19R - SOK/Team Take One

Left Japan in early 2003 for the USA. Was resprayed in the LARK livery it wore during the 1997 24Hrs of Le Mans race. Offered for sale again in 2008 and now in the UK.

The LARK livery 19R now wears is that one from the FIA GT 1997 1000km Pokka/Suzuka race, not the Le Mans as that one was 27R and had also the French restrictions on tobacco advertising (striped LARK texts). Underneath the current LARK livery 19R is still as it was last raced as SOK #30. ;)

http://thumbnails12.imagebam.com/8133/ab9c2f81325629.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/ab9c2f81325629) http://thumbnails32.imagebam.com/8133/e70e3e81325630.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e70e3e81325630) http://thumbnails20.imagebam.com/8133/c7f2e181325943.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c7f2e181325943)

19R Suzuka 1997 vs Daytona 2003 and 27R LM97

F1GTRUeno

05-20-2010, 03:58 PM

Just me or does 19R definitely seem red and black instead of bright pink/black?

Peloton25

05-20-2010, 04:00 PM

Greg - I agree that he is German too, but other than the trip to Hockenheim I am not sure how much time it has ever spent there? I'll try to be more vague as I had forgotten the German plates it was wearing in the Kidston sale photos.

Thanks Doc - this isn't the first time I've confused the two in my head - probably won't be the last either. :grinno:

F1GTRUeno - It's a difficult color for most cameras to handle - a poorly calibrated white balance will shift it dramatically. Also the monitor you are looking at the images on could be having an effect as well. Compare red versus pink in this shot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephanbauer/4312216054/sizes/o/) and here is another one that gets it right:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/th_DJmclaren.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/DJmclaren.jpg)

>8^)
ER

DocGTR

05-20-2010, 05:04 PM

The pink/gun metal grey on the LARK liveries is really difficult, maybe the most difficult of the used colors on GTR liveries, to catch it right with a camera as it depends on many different variables, not just the camera, but the lighting and different angles makes especially the pink seem from a yellowish orange to quite dark red. The same goes with the LARK scale models painted in that correct "fluorescent pink" I have, it really depends on the lighting (day or evening, cloudy or bright sunny, lighting inside the house, etc.) how it appears to the eye.

I think this is one of the better shots of the 19R during the FIA GT 1997 Suzuka race weekend as it also shows not only the pink quite correctly but also the gun metal grey cockpit area.

http://thumbnails28.imagebam.com/8135/999df981346916.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/999df981346916)

Still I'm not sure if the resprayed livery of 19R has the dark area in correct gun metal grey or black, as in many images around it seems to be pitch black. Also from those images that were taken in the studio as Symbolic had it, it seems more to be black instead of grey. :dunno:

Peloton25

05-20-2010, 09:49 PM

No idea which car this is, and the images date all the way back to March of 2004 but these offer a pretty interesting view we don't normally get to see. I initially found these first two images which are typical 'Japanese-sized', blurry for no reason and only barely interesting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/SANY0018_00.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/SANY0017_00.jpg

Then I dug a little deeper and discovered this second pair which are clickable. :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/th_SANY0016.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/SANY0016.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/th_SANY0009.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/SANY0009.jpg)

Hard to believe with all the Japanese searching that's been done that I've only now come across these. :screwy:

>8^)
ER

dbsf1

05-21-2010, 01:07 AM

Thankyou! Wow! Two GT photos I've never seen before!

cabrio92

05-21-2010, 05:02 AM

Hello,

let me thank you very much for this perfect work Erik :)

Excellent thread.

Phil

Peloton25

05-22-2010, 07:30 AM

There are a couple of truths in my world of F1 uber-enthusiasm.

The first one is that one thing leads to another. Quite often the discovery of something new will come with clues that can lead you on to something else. I'm sure others have experienced this as well.

The second one - and it's happened more than I'd care to remember - is that I've made some sort of statement usually about a specific car, only to have the foundation of that statement rattled or completely wiped out within a matter of days. :redface:

For instance (and having nothing to do with Japan) quite recently on the 6th of May I commented elsewhere that chassis #042 had not been spotted in a very long time. Then two days later it shows up at a small car show in Northern California. Not that I am complaining when an F1 comes out of hiding like that, but that's kind of an odd coincidence, and again it's not the first time something like that has happened to me. Makes you want to hit the 'Rewind' button swiftly.

So here we go again - just a few days ago I went out on a limb and wrote this in here about chassis #012:

While I have no proof this car has left Japan, my gut feeling is that this is the F1 owned by Lawrence Stroll in Canada. We'll leave it on the list for now until the mystery is solved.

"The words are still hanging in the air..." as they say, and then two days later I find this image in the midst of a Japanese search effort. :yikes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/o0800053210508166906.jpg

Now I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't recognize this car.

Actually, let me rephrase that - I don't recognize it as being any of the F1s we have already identified as being in Japan.

My gut feeling after staring at the image now for a day is that this could very well be the former Tag Heuer F1 which is believed to be #012. The paint color seems far too dark to be any of the silver F1s we're so familiar with. From the looks of things, especially the hazing in the headlights, it appears to have been stored for quite a long time. Perhaps most amazing is that this picture is almost exactly one month old.

Where did I find this you might ask? Well, going back to my 'one thing leads to another' point I made earlier - the photos of that F1 in pieces in my previous post were taken at a facility called COX Inc (http://www.cox.co.jp) in Kanagawa, Japan. On their website they list one of their overseas customers as none other than 'McLaren Automotive Ltd.' Interesting I thought...

So searching for items related to COX and the McLaren F1 I came upon the blog page for 'GoodSmile Racing' (http://ameblo.jp/stgt/entry-10515490228.html) who apparently partner with COX to campaign a 911 GT3R in the Japan SuperGT Series. You'll spot the image of the F1 there at the top and sadly it's the only one.

Translating the text surrounding the photo doesn't get us very far:

Building and development to move in line next to the vine ー racing Innovation, the wall of the room is unused, a pile of used tires! Car seats back there and cover what most Porsche cars to Kaari this room!

Take a seat and you'll see, A whopping McLaren F1

Atsuko saw her first! Yes ... billion estimate. . .
Probably sit in front of McLaren F1, I would view it keeps for days

There is much force it was to type something out of a futuristic movie.

Neither did flipping through the nearly 2,500 images in the gallery linked to that racing team blog which I've done in my spare time over the past two days - talk about frustrating. At least the Race Queens were hot and there were only two dozen or so images of food compared to what you'd usually find in a Japanese blog. :D

One other thing I noticed from the COX website was that they'd previously worked with Team Goh campaigning the R8 at LeMans for Audi Japan. This set off a little bell in my head - causing me to take another look at this set of Japanese-sized photos below which I had previously determined were of the brown/pink F1 at Iding Power.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/AM1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/AM2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/AM3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/AM4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/AM5.jpg

I'm thinking now that this is probably the same F1 as in the larger photo above, and not the brown car after all.

So not one to be deterred, I'm going to shoot an email off to COX and also to the contact address for GoodSmile Racing and see if either one will tell me anything about this car. A third and final truth in the world of the F1 seems to be that you don't get replies back from Japanese contacts when you send them an email in English, so my hopes are not very high on this one. But at least I have uncovered something 'new' here. :thumbsup:

>8^)
ER

Peloton25

05-23-2010, 01:56 AM

Been wandering my way around Japan again hoping for another glimpse of the car above. I didn't find that, but did discover a few new photos (from 2006) of the brown F1 in Iding Power's garage which I hadn't seen before. Not the greatest shots - especially the second one :p - but figured I might as well throw them out there.

One thing I did notice which I had not realized before is that this car used to wear a 'McLaren' windshield banner. I looked at some of the other pics we have and you can see it in them as well, just not quite as clearly as in this first shot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/P2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/P1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/P5.jpg

Next up on the 'Hey, that's cool' list is this screenshot from the CarGraphic 45th Anniversary video of #016 in Japan. We saw a brief clip of this towards the end of the original Japanese fleet thread. I might have found a place to DL the entire video, but will need to spend a little more time playing the web-translation game if I am going to get lucky.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/P1e.jpg

In addition, I found this picture of a couple of pages from the April 2007 CarGraphic magazine. I'm not sure which F1 was used here and I would very much like to see the rest of the article. No such luck on the webpage I found this at.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/th_CarGraphic_April2007.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/CarGraphic_April2007.jpg)

Here's the cover shot of another magazine I'd also love to skim the pages on.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/th_201002_27_35_d0099235_23161625.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/=201002_27_35_d0099235_23161625.jpg)

Anyone have a copy of that issue on their shelf?

Yeah - I didn't think so... :headshake

Last but not least - well actually 'least' is a good word here - is a link bucciali sent me of some silver F1 pics from Japan that I did not have - probably #063, I'm guessing, and if so that would mean they are pictures from after it returned from Hong Kong I believe.

Now before you get too excited - these are the epitome of 'Japanese-sized' images in that the two thumbnails on the first page are each clickable for a page of slightly larger (small) images, but even better is that those small images are then clickable and open a new window containing the same image at the very same resolution. Why bother? :screwy: :banghead:

http://minkara.carview.co.jp/userid/314801/car/211667/photo.aspx

That's all for now. :cool:

>8^)
ER

Le Man

05-23-2010, 05:21 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/th_201002_27_35_d0099235_23161625.jpg (http://redirectingat.com/?id=252X400&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv4 82%2FPeloton25%2FMcLaren%2520F1%2520J%2F%3D201002_ 27_35_d0099235_23161625.jpg&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.automotiveforums.com%2Fvbull etin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1014672)Anyone have a copy of that issue on their shelf?

Yeah - I didn't think so... :headshake

:grinyes: ......Yes I do,

I have shown some pages before, long time ago. I guess you wanna see more? :wink:

"COOL IDEA" to restart this thread again :thumbsup:

hurstg01

05-23-2010, 05:49 AM

somehow I thought you might ;)

Le Man

05-23-2010, 03:15 PM

Just located my copy, after a long search :banghead:

Will sort out some scans or photo,s when I have time. As the ones previously posted, have all but expired in the old thread here.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=532884&highlight=japanese

Peloton25

05-23-2010, 03:19 PM

Will sort out some scans or photo,s when I have time. As the ones previously posted, have all but expired in the old thread here.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=532884&highlight=japanese

Wow - how did I miss that thread? :loser:

>8^)
ER

Le Man

05-23-2010, 03:43 PM

Wow - how did I miss that thread? :loser:

>8^)
ER

:chair:

No, not you again and this after not downloading all my LM pics :headshake

From now on, all my threads will be titled as thus

"LOTS OF NAKED LESBIANS IN THIS THREAD" etc etc.

Then "all and sundry" will view "ALL" that I post!! :grinyes:

Are all of the pics opening for you in the old thread?

Peloton25

05-23-2010, 03:47 PM

Only the middle pair of each line where the thumbnails are still visible.

...and I'm never going to live that 'Lesbian' thing down, am I? :grinno:

>8^)
ER

F1GTRUeno

05-23-2010, 04:15 PM

Not until one of your threads actually contains lesbians Erik :D

carbuilder2002

05-23-2010, 04:22 PM

Trust me having lived with lesbians theres nothing mysterious about it lol

Le Man

05-23-2010, 04:27 PM

...and I'm never going to live that 'Lesbian' thing down, am I? :grinno:

>8^)
ER

NO. :tongue:

Here you go, these are the original six photos I hosted. I will try to run the mag through the scanner, as there is a little more in the way of GTR content. I will also try to improve the quality, but the magazines spine may be a problem.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9053/p3030063u.th.jpg (http://img180.imageshack.us/i/p3030063u.jpg/) http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9788/p3030065.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/p3030065.jpg/) http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9493/p3030066.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/p3030066.jpg/) http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2502/p3030067.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/p3030067.jpg/) http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9185/p3030068.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/i/p3030068.jpg/) http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/9648/p3030069.th.jpg (http://img532.imageshack.us/i/p3030069.jpg/)

Peloton25

05-23-2010, 04:32 PM

Wow - I would almost consider framing that shot of #01R on track if I could get a clean print of it. That's impressive! :yikes:

The shots of #01R with XP5 are pretty cool too. I suspect your scans will make them better. :) When you get them done they'd be a great addition to the GTR Articles (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=907772) thread.

Very cool that you have the issue - I wasn't kidding when I said I didn't believe anyone would. Lucky you! :grinyes:

>8^)
ER

Peloton25

06-06-2010, 01:34 PM

A 'new' photo of the F1 believed to be #043, very much like all the others

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/296715mclarenf1.jpg

>8^)
ER

carbuilder2002

06-06-2010, 01:52 PM

Wonder why the GTR sunstrip?

hurstg01

06-06-2010, 01:57 PM

Believed to belong to the owner of Ueno Clinic - note the colouring of the car......

carbuilder2002

06-06-2010, 03:35 PM

I had noticed that

Peloton25

06-09-2010, 06:48 AM

hurstg01

06-09-2010, 08:01 AM

Or diablofan (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=415142&page=2) from here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3193312&postcount=51)

Le Man

06-09-2010, 10:00 AM

Crossing my fingers that Le Man might be the saviour again?

Rosso Magazine from October 1999 (http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n69658711)

Note the shot of the 58F1GT on the contents page too.

>8^)
ER

Sorry, no can help this time :uhoh:

Looks like another very nice Rosso mag to add to the collection, how do you say "back issue please" in Japanese :smile:.

I have been trying to scan that other mag without any success, the way its bound is the main issue :banghead: but I will not give up.

Peloton25

06-09-2010, 10:02 AM

Brilliant Greg! I'll try bothering him. :)

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

06-09-2010, 10:14 AM

how do you say "back issue please" in Japanese :smile:.

brack rissue prease? :evillol:

Le Man

06-09-2010, 10:28 AM

brack rissue prease? :evillol:

Velly funny :iceslolan

Peloton25

07-05-2010, 03:49 AM

Two more F1 photos taken at COX Inc in Japan within the past two weeks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/pdl.jpg

That is the left passenger seat removed from #060 on the floor in front of the car. The caption with this image translates to:

"Daily McLaren! Only 200km mileage"

WOW!! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/o7is.jpg

This second photo appears to be #029. I don't think it's the same car as the one from before. Translating the caption from this image it reads:

"Moreover, unregistered vehicle photo vehicle owned by a collector!"

I've been told this car has about 300kms on it.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

07-05-2010, 09:38 AM

029 is being shopped around by Euro Classics too based on the small photo of the car in Cavallino

http://www.euro-classics.com

bucciali

07-22-2010, 02:19 AM

:wave:

About time to drop a message here. I was very glad to see that Erik finally managed to do his long planned update of the thread that I started a long time back. :thumbsup: for the overview you've created, Erik!

Thanks as well for the kind words. At the time I just needed an overview of all the Japanese chassis, but I'd never thought we would end up having a Recap thread for all relevant regions. I'm a fan of structure and overviews :cool: and it's a pleasure every time to review the Recap threads. The Japan one remains my favourite though :icon16:

Like Erik said, with my young family, I've had to rearrange priorities, but I have been checking in from time to time (Lurking as a Lesbian, I believe is the phrase?) and as said so many times before, it is great to see how this community shares, discusses and is very much alive. The other day I found the F1 pics thread over at Fchat (how could I ever have missed it? :screwy:) and I was glued to the screen until I had read all 40-50odd pages on it. This has re-ignited the F1 bug and I've been hovering the (Japanese) net for a couple of days now.
Unfortunately no luck in finding new things so far, seems as though Erik has found everything. Some very nice findings in this new thread. Very nice to see new pics of the yellow one, pity of course that it is still wrapped in plastic, unbelievable.

Cheers,
Bucciali

hurstg01

07-25-2010, 12:57 PM

Looks like #070 is up for sale

http://thumbsnap.com/s/oFgS3eam.jpg (http://redirectingat.com/?id=1044X509854&xs=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthumbsnap.com%2FoFgS3eam&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fpistonheads.com%2Fgassing%2Ftopi c.asp%3Fh%3D0%26f%3D63%26t%3D882353%26mid%3D29881% 26nmt%3DFor%20McLaren%20F1%20fans...)

PatrickT82

07-25-2010, 01:15 PM

ugly rims:(

Peloton25

07-25-2010, 04:24 PM

Good find Greg. :sunglasse

http://www.lmpcars.com/20100618/mclaren-f1-2/

http://search.carhoo.jp/wa1459/car_detail1100592069.html

>8^)
ER

jayfive

07-26-2010, 05:29 PM

wonder how much that is going for

bucciali

07-28-2010, 02:45 PM

Crossing my fingers that Le Man might be the saviour again?

Rosso Magazine from October 1999 (http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n69658711)

Note the shot of the 58F1GT on the contents page too.

>8^)
ER

Have tried to buy this issue through the Yahoo JP auction site, but couldn't get Paypal, creditcard, nor Yahoo Credit to work :confused:
Did find this pic of the Rosso mag of October '99, guessing that the spread is of that same mag.

Anybody know a JP dedicated books/mags site, where Paypal/CC is accepted?

Peloton25

07-28-2010, 09:11 PM

I don't know of any and that image is a little discouraging as the F1 pictured there is the Clinic Model. I was hoping for some unique Japanese F1 content.

>8^)
ER

Peloton25

08-01-2010, 03:22 AM

This appears to be an image of #018 taken while it was in Japan which makes it pretty rare. The other possibility in my mind was #003, but it has the wrong mirrors to be that car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/syasin_10_11.gif

One additional clue to it being #018 is that it appears to be on the very same tow truck that LM2 is on in this shot (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6731433&postcount=21) which came from the same Japanese website.

>8^)
ER

bucciali

08-02-2010, 04:25 PM

I don't know of any and that image is a little discouraging as the F1 pictured there is the Clinic Model. I was hoping for some unique Japanese F1 content.

>8^)
ER

It's not often though that people have 2 copies of the same, so they can show both the front cover & content in one and the same photo. Perhaps it's two different issues?

Stumbled over these small pics, and the accompanying text mentions it was a photoshoot for Genroq magazine. That reminded me of seeing a mentioning of 'McLaren F1' on their 25th anniversary issue (http://www.amazon.co.jp/GENROQ-%E3%82%B2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%AD%E3%82%AF-2010%E5%B9%B4-07%E6%9C%88%E5%8F%B7-%E9%9B%91%E8%AA%8C/dp/B003MAQI3I/ref=pd_sim_b_3) of July 2010. Not sure, but it could be it was for this issue. Haven't found any pics of the content of this issue, but will keep on searching.

Funny enough, Mr. Ide from Iding Power (http://idingpower.jp/html/information/) is interviewed in it too

bucciali

08-02-2010, 04:35 PM

http://idingpower.jp/html/history/index.php

Had we seen these thumbnail-sized pics ( :( ) already??

Peloton25

08-02-2010, 04:44 PM

Stumbled over these small pics, and the accompanying text mentions it was a photoshoot for Genroq magazine.

That's #043!!! :sunglasse ...or at least the car we believe to be #043. The last pics I have seen of that car were from 2001. With a Carrera GT in the photo these are surely more recent than that. Sweet!

The other Iding Power shots got their own thread with related subject matter:

The Iding Power V12... (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=975909)

>8^)
ER

bucciali

08-03-2010, 06:20 AM

That's #043!!! :sunglasse ...or at least the car we believe to be #043. The last pics I have seen of that car were from 2001. With a Carrera GT in the photo these are surely more recent than that. Sweet!

How do you know it's 043? Logical elimination of possibilities? I can't make out the GTR windshield banner, or is there another distinctive feature identifying it as 043? Please educate me :icon16:

These two photos were posted on a blog last May, so that could indicate the recentness. And the Carrera GT certainly puts a date on it. But the Genroq issue of July 2010 lists an article on the F40, the F1 and the Carrera GT, so this photoshoot will most likely have taken place this year, in May or somewhat earlier.

The other Iding Power shots got their own thread with related subject matter:

The Iding Power V12... (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=975909)
Wow, I hadn't seen that one yet. But then again, I do have some catching up to do.
Read the initial part of it and it is really an exciting story!! Thanks for finding it and putting it up!

hurstg01

08-03-2010, 06:45 AM

How do you know it's 043? Logical elimination of possibilities? I can't make out the GTR windshield banner, or is there another distinctive feature identifying it as 043? Please educate me :icon16:

The colouring at the bottom of the doors and the lower part of the nose is grey compared to the black of the rest of the bodywork - we believe [what is beleived to be] #043 to be owned by someone connected to the Ueno Clinic Company, hence the reason this car is coloured like that of #01R

Peloton25

08-03-2010, 07:00 AM

How do you know it's 043? Logical elimination of possibilities? I can't make out the GTR windshield banner, or is there another distinctive feature identifying it as 043? Please educate me :icon16:

Remember that the paint on the car believed to be #043 matches the LeMans winner, so if you look at the lower sections of the doors and the front valence you should see they are grey in the second image.

As the story goes, the desire was to have #01R's paint match the Ueno Clinic owner's Mercedes SL - something like this:

http://i28.tinypic.com/5tvry9.jpg

>8^)
ER

bucciali

08-04-2010, 03:20 PM

Thank you, Erik and Greg, for the lesson. I wasn't sure whether that was another colour on these lower parts, as the pics are so small.

bucciali

08-05-2010, 02:17 AM

With lack of more substantial material, I just wanted to share a Japan-style picture, where I have trouble making out which # it could be.

Found it on Picasa, seemed like a random pic in a random album, so I would have no idea what garage this could be either.

Will continue to find more substantial info on the Japan fleet of course :smokin:

Peloton25

08-05-2010, 05:55 AM

Except, that's not a Japanese photo. :uhoh:

That's a picture of #022 taken by Sean Morris in Southern California at G&K Automotive, one of the few companies here in the USA who is capable of certifying vehicles for 'Show or Display'.

It was posted here by him long ago in this post (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3212461&postcount=103), but the image is no longer accessible.

Thanks for the efforts though my friend. :)

>8^)
ER

bucciali

08-05-2010, 06:02 AM

Except, that's not a Japanese photo. :uhoh:

Haha, hilarious. Thought it was safe to assume so though, by having 2 japanese license plates visible. Guess then that G&K import Skylines? :)

Peloton25

08-05-2010, 06:12 AM

bucciali

08-05-2010, 06:36 AM

Well R33's like the blue one used to be able to be federalized here thanks to the efforts of Motorex, but since they folded there's been a bit of a change in the rules to keep new ones from coming in.

>8^)
ER

To keep new ones from coming in? Why are there such strict rules? It is amazing.
Good thing of the European Union and importing from outside the EU, is that if your own country has import or taxing rules that, say, are not too pleasant, you can just find the EU Member country where it is easier, import it there and get it to your own country much easier :-)

Peloton25

08-05-2010, 07:40 AM

We used to have similar lax rules and a large market for grey imports. Some blame Mercedes Benz for lobbying our government to crack down on them as the grey market was able to significantly undercut retail prices for their US-spec cars. Also our somewhat draconian emissions regulations (which do have their merits) have rendered it nearly impossible to bring in any vehicle with an engine that hasn't been certified through our EPA processes.

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

08-24-2010, 11:22 AM

Just found this - possibly #029 whilst for sale at Art Sports?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/th_untitled.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/AF/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg)

Peloton25

09-08-2010, 09:10 AM

Here's another new photo of #029. :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20J/DSC06589.jpg

A real beauty this car is. :)

>8^)
ER

F1GTRUeno

09-08-2010, 11:08 AM

I hope someone in the UK buys #029.

I'd travel anywhere in the country to see it.

Peloton25

09-08-2010, 12:10 PM

I've heard the asking price has now reached "Are you kidding me?!?" territory.

I do hope it finds a good home with someone who intends to keep it as is. For an original car it is really quite nice and too many of the unique originals have already been messed with.

>8^)
ER

Le Man

09-08-2010, 03:05 PM

Its not #029 that,s for sale :rolleyes:

Try a 1995 unidentified colour/Grey interior.

The Grey interior is the give away, try one of the silver cars :naughty:.

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