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Old 08-07-2007, 04:23 PM   #1
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In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

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My years on this forum have been a great experience for me. The inspiration I've gotten here has contributed hugely to my interest in building cars (I originally built planes and helicopters), and has consistently kept me building. I've tried techniques and media I've seen used here that I would never have thought of, and I've learned and mastered skills I doubt I could have picked up anywhere else. I've really learned to paint (but of course, I'm still learning). And I've gotten alot of satisfaction out of it all.

But more than that, this has been a great community to be part of. There's an incredible amount of experience, helpfulness, and enthusiasm to be found here. And there are a number of really terrific individuals here that I'm happy to consider friends.

Recently, two such individuals have provided me with two kits that I've been searching for for some time- simply because they wanted to see what I could do with them. One is of course this 850, contributed to my stash by none other than Klutz_100. (The other I will hopefully get a chance to post soon as well.)

I'd been hoping to find the Revell Germany 850i on and off since just about the turn of the century. I've spent plenty of time on Ebay, but on the rare occasion one would show someone always seemed to want it more than me. A trip to Germany spent scouring hobby shops (among other things) didn't turn one up. But Stevenski came across one a year or so ago, and rather promptly sent it to me- in exchange for some somewhat complicated little bits of aluminum. (It took me nearly a year to make them. Thankfully, he's very patient. ) But we also agreed, I still owed him this build. So here goes. Cheers mate, this one's for you- and all the rest of you who have inspired me, taught me, encouraged me, learned from me, endured me, and even occasionally annoyed me. Hope you enjoy.

All right, enough with the sentimentallity already- on with the building.



This is one of the only kits in my stash that I would say I've been intimidated by. The parts breakdown is very similar to a Fujimi Enthu kit- anything that could be done in two parts has in fact been done in seven. It contains the most wicked collection of sinkholes I've ever seen in one box. And then of course there's the fit. Tamiya's Enzo or FW24 have nothing on this beast- at the end of they day, you know they will fit together. I have no such confidence with this one.

It's rare to see one built up, either here or anywhere else I've looked. But one of the few things I've heard about it is that the fit leaves alot to be desired. Looking over the bodyparts, this became immediately evident.



Most of what I build are Tamiya kits- the sort of thing where you can take the body out of the box, give it a quick overall sanding and a wash, and be ready to prime and paint in little over an hour. I've never really had to do much in the way of 'bodywork' (tuner style bodykits aren't really my thing). Modifying and correcting body parts isn't something I've really done- it's actually a skill I've avoided having to mess with. Time to change that, as there's no getting away from it here.

The nose/bumper/airdam assembly is four separate parts, and each joint takes filling, or filling and rescribing. Once this nose is installed on the body, it becomes clear that the bonnet simply does not fit. The gap on the front edge is nearly a 1/16 of an inch. (The pic above already shows some filling work.)



I chose to deal with this by building up the edge of the bonnet with CA glue and accelerator, and sanding it to shape. This took a number of repititions. Build it up,



sand it down,



reprime it, inspect it, and do it again. Managing at most one or two repetitions a day, it feels like it takes forever. But progress is (slowly) made.

Revell did a very nice relief 850i emblem on the boot lid- much too nice not to use. (I really don't understand why they also included it as a decal. ) So, out comes the BMF.



I like to put it on before primer and paint, and then gently remove the paint/primer to reveal it.



But strangely for the BMW roundels, Revell left flat spots instead of domes. Someone enthusiasticly pointed out to me that this was a perfect opportunity to use a self ahdesive emblem like in MSM's set- but to my eye a good decal on a suitably shaped dome is by far the best way to replicate a BMW roundel.

So the flat spots got drilled out,



and a set of turned aluminum domes were installed.



As for the decals- well, the kit decals have obviously seen better days.



Don't know what the brown staining is, but it doesn't look good. I really don't have much confidence that any of them will work at all.

Fortunately Revell Germany has a very good parts replacement service. The 850 decals are long out of print, but the decals for Revell's Z1 (another very odd little kit) are excellent and easily availible.



It's not a perfect match, but it gives be something to work with. Fortunately I now have plenty of license plates, which Revell seems to believe is a crucial element.

More work on the nose-



I noticed in the pics above a gap I hadn't managed to fill (which might or might not have been covered with one of the copious license plates).

Onto the boot lid. It's not nearly so bad as the bonnet, but needed some work too.





Must remember to removal that cross piece.





There. Ready. I couldn't guess now how many applications of primer I've sprayed (and resprayed, and resprayed) onto the body. But finally it's done, sanded smooooth, inspected, and ready for paint.



It's going to be metallic dark red- just as soon as the weather cooperates. Actually I've been waiting for three weeks now for decent painting weather- but the whole time here temps have been in the mid 90's (upper 30's C), with 70ish % humidity. The forecast is more of the same for the next week plus. So meanwhile, I wait.

Maybe it's time to have a look at that engine....
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:54 PM   #2
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

Oh boy, another new build! This is one of those rare-ish cars (and apparently kits, too!) that I've always found particularly cool. I'm fond of BMW's in general, but I tend to like the older, more exclusive cars that not everybody and their brother owns. When I first saw the thread, I thought, "cool, an 8-series model. Maybe I'll get one." Maybe not. But I'll be looking forward to seeing your [undoubtedly spectacular] progress. Yes, the fit may be poor, but I like Revell AG kits for their complexity and engine-inclusion. I'm tired of models that are so poorly detailed that they take three years to complete due to all the scratchbuilding. I guess I can thank the local Wal-Marts for providing plenty of those sort of projects.

Anyway, your progress so far looks good. What brand is the paint you are planning to use? I agree that Revell does seem to have a thing for license plates (for example the Ferrari F430); I just wish they could do the same with American plates too so I could get some for my AMT kits (whose plates...and models in general...are lousy). Muscle cars just don't look right with the surplus Euro plates I have...

Keep up the good work. I'll be watching this one.

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Old 08-07-2007, 05:54 PM   #3
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

Wow,
that would be an excellent build to follow, cos' even if I am not a big BMW fan (except the M3 rally car ) but those cars are the ones that could change my mind because they remind my my young years where those cars were ones of the most incredible sport cars existing and when I was starting to find interest in automotive...

I guess you're gonna detail the V12 cavalry ?

I will foolow this build !
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:24 PM   #4
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

This should be fun to watch.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:19 PM   #5
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

Can't wait to see you do the engine..... of both kits.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:19 PM   #6
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

YAY! At last!

I'm really looking forward to seeing this progress.

Enjoy!
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:29 PM   #7
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

Andy, terrific start, great body fixes. I knew you have the kit and I was actually waiting for you to start building it! I also have it in my "to be built one day" stash and I will be following this thread closely.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:06 PM   #8
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

Awesome! I can't wait to see what you can do with this kit of this gorgeous car! This is going to be a thread to watch!
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:38 AM   #9
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

nice progress on the body, im sure its gona turn out fantastic!!

i have a tamiya one myself, but its missing alot of pieces here and there.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:42 AM   #10
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I'm really looking forward to seeing this progress
Me too!
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:00 AM   #11
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

Fantastic, I'm tuned for the V12 stages opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

It's beautiful! OK, I know it's going to be a long build but definitely worth to see it! The one and only 850i I've seen is on Kunta's homepage, so I'm curious how this one turns out! I wish you good luck and patience to the build!
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:30 AM   #13
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This is going to be well worth the effort when you're done. The roundels alone are going to make me drool!
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:17 AM   #14
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Re: In Progress: Revell BMW 850i

Yeah, now we are talking bussiness, I have made this one a long time ago when I thougt airbrush was something of alien origin

I still have the finished model somewhere, I remember front hood hinges were nightmare to fit and then fit the hood over the pop up lights, please try that now before the paint if you still didn't try.

I wait for more updates
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Old 08-08-2007, 05:28 AM   #15
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Wow, very very cool choice of subject, man!

This is going to be one sick car. Sofar your work is ballistic and I guess we will be seeing more nut-jobs later on.

Let's pray for your weather to come my way so you can paint and i can tan.

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