Why are Supra's so Expensive?

[madmack69]

The Toyota Supra is probably one of my favorite cars of all time. But, I have to say that I think that for the money people want for one, you would be better off setting your sites on something else. The main reason I say is that buy now most of them have racked up mileage around the 100-150k mile range. I know its a toyota, but STILL. For a TT 6spd you would be paying AT LEAST 25-30k for a 10 year old car with about 150k miles on it. Also, many of them have already been tampered with. Do you really want a car someone else has modded and then beat the @#$% out of for 150k miles? As for the other supras, Personally, I wouldnt want a TT auto, or a 5spd with a turbo kit (both of which are often priced over bluebook). And what if you do happen to see a nice stock TT 6spd? your gonna shell out 30,40, maybe even 50k for it. Thats about what the car was new... and after you get that super nice car, are you gonna buy turbo upgrades, nos and a body kit for it and drag race it? Not only is it gonna bring the grand total up probably at least another 10k, but you would be RUINING a really nice car. There is a reason that Supras are so rare, and that Toyota quit making them, NOONE WANTED TO SHELL OUT 40-50k for one even when they were new! I'm not trying to say that if you want one you shouldn't buy one, or that they are a waste of money. If you want one and have the means, knock yourself out. But I just feel that for the price Supras are going for, you could have a newer car that is just as good if not better. Personally, Id rather start pinching pennies for that new 2007 GT-R. But thats just me....

[madmack69]

Just saw the post about the possibility of a new supra comming out... Those pics look really cool, and maybe it would force the price of the MKIV down a bit? That'd be cool....

[TcmaBoy]

Used prices weren't that bad until that evil movie came out. Once the car was featured in a movie every poser out there wanted one. It drove up demand which then drove up prices. When I was shoping for my Tacoma back in 99 there was a used 97 TT MT on the Toyota lot. It was certified used with a waranty for 22K. It only had 50K miles on it. Now you are looking at an AT with 120K on the ODO that probably has a few problems for that price.

I think it is rather silly. It is too much money for a car that some one has already ragged out. Especialy when you look at the other cars you can get in the 22-26K price range. You can put yourself into a brand new Mustang GT for that price. I know there are plenty of folks out there that seem to shun domestics for no apparant reason, but the new Mustangs deliver the same stock HP with a broader power band in a lighter package. Don't knock it until you try it. If you are insistant on an import you can also put yourself into a WRX or an Evo. That is why I am building up a MK III. With a 1K entery price I will have a built car for less than half the price of a well used MK IV.

[TcmaBoy]

Originally Posted by madmack69

Just saw the post about the possibility of a new supra comming out... Those pics look really cool, and maybe it would force the price of the MKIV down a bit? That'd be cool....

Don't hold your breath. The way Toyota is going that concept will end up coming out as a replacement for the Lexus SC, that is if it ever reaches production.

[madmack69]

It is a shame that The Fast and The Furious ever came out. The cars in it are cool, but the movie spawned allot of posers and the plot was stupid. I'm 24, and I have loved cars my entire life. I saw a brand new supra at the dealer and checked it out for hours while my mom was buying her 94 4runner. But since that stupid movie, everyone with a civic or cavalier decided they needed a fart can and rims w low pros. I swear if I see another sunfire with 4 inch wheel gap im going to be sick. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of money people will waste on a shitty car. Take a sunfire, put nos, rims, low pro tires, ground FX, a fart can (can't forget that) and 7-10 japenese symbol stickers (by the way-after meeting an individual from japan at a race, I wouldn't put those on your car unless you know what they mean) and what do you have? A PONTIAC SUNFIRE.
It's gotten to the point where you can't buy any decent used import let alone a supra. They all have stupid shit like fart cans and cold air intakes that in my opinion make the car run worse (unless you tell the computer what to do with all that increased air flow) and of course with all those "high performance" mods, the kids want a fortune for them. And since its so rare to find a stock unmolested one, the guy who is selling one will still want a fortune. Not only that, but the insurance on civics and some other 4 bangers seems to be higher than it should be. Perhaps its because every kid that has one feels the need to get pulled over and crash allot making the car a high risk vehicle.
Maybe im unrealistic, but I just can't get over some of the stuff I see. I really hoped that people would have been smarter. I have a shitty 92 accord EX 5Spd that I use as a beater. It is probably the only accord around that doesn't have "mods". Why? because its not a race car and I know it. I have thought about an H22 swap because I like sleepers, but here again we have a car with 175k miles. It would be a waste of time and money.
I know its easy to get excited, but I think that people need to find their own dream car, (not a sunfire or civic, or a neat car that hollywood rams down our throats) and save up for it instead of wasting money on their everyday drivers. If that were the case, maybe people like me who actually like supras, not just think we like them because paul walker beat a ferrari in movie with one, could actually buy one at a reasonable price.

[madmack69]

Originally Posted by TcmaBoy

Don't hold your breath. The way Toyota is going that concept will end up coming out as a replacement for the Lexus SC, that is if it ever reaches production.

I know - but I can dream can't I?

[projectsupramk3]

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You just feel the need to rant about how you can't afford the car? I'm sorry, but that's life. If you think they are over priced then move on and look at something else, raving about it won't bring down the widely known price one cent. While I don't see the point in modding a sunfire per your example, it's not right at all to call it a shitty car. If the owner has a passion for modifying that particual car then so be it, different strokes for different folks. Anyone can say the same thing about Supras (and I have heard it more than once). Who are you to tell anyone what should be their dream car. Almost everyone I've met with a Civic loves that Civic and wouldn't want anything else, it's the same with any other car/driver.

[97cavalier]

you just havr to look out there also, you might have to travel a little bit but you can find a 87-92 single turbo out there cheeper. when i had my 87 turbo supre i got it for $2,500 with 115,000 on it and the turbo was in great shape.along with the rest of the car, except for a copple of scratches and some paint faided, but you have to give a little for a supra for 2,500

[TcmaBoy]

[quote=projectsupramk3]AND........



While I don't see the point in modding a sunfire per your example, it's not right at all to call it a shitty car. If the owner has a passion for modifying that particual car then so be it, different strokes for different folks. [quote]

A shitty car is a shitty car. If you intend to do a high preformance build you need to start with a good platform. With enough time and money you can turn a turd into a diamond, but by the time you are done how much of the orriginal will be left. Not only that, but what is it going to take to get there? I suppose if you are so hooked on your car that you just HAVE to use it then go ahead. That doesn't make it a good idea. I have seen some really fast Pintos out there, but I wouldn't exactly call them Pintos either. After droping in a 5.0 up front and a 9 inch out back there is nothing Pinto left. You can do the same for a Sunfire, Civic, Cavalier, Focus, Festiva, Justy, Metro, Escort, (insert favorite crap box here), or any other econo box, but that doesn't make them a good platform to start with.

[Yellow 13]

If you wanna ease the pain just look at the price for a Bugatti Veyron

Base Price: 2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 - Approx. $1,700,000 (last update: 1/30/2006)

How many Supra's you think you could buy for that...Maybe throw in a few Ferarri's to speed things up.

[madmack69]

Originally Posted by projectsupramk3

AND........



You just feel the need to rant about how you can't afford the car? I'm sorry, but that's life. If you think they are over priced then move on and look at something else, raving about it won't bring down the widely known price one cent. While I don't see the point in modding a sunfire per your example, it's not right at all to call it a shitty car. If the owner has a passion for modifying that particual car then so be it, different strokes for different folks. Anyone can say the same thing about Supras (and I have heard it more than once). Who are you to tell anyone what should be their dream car. Almost everyone I've met with a Civic loves that Civic and wouldn't want anything else, it's the same with any other car/driver.

Ranting and raving won't change the price of the car - True, but it will wake people up and realize that there are better cars for less.

If the owner has a passion for modifying that particual car then so be it - Noone has a passion for modding sunfires, they do it because its what they can afford, and instead of ruining a car that is BASIC TRANSPORTATION they could be saving for a good platform on which to start. If I would have saved all the money I wasted on junk cars when I was in highschool, Id probably be able to buy a supra.

Who are you to tell anyone what should be their dream car- I'm a genius, and young people would be wise to listen to me so they don't make the same mistakes I did. If your reading this and your 16 and starting to look for a car to pour money into, or your parents bought you a sunfire and you want to mod it, put 2k a year for 5 years into a Roth IRA instead.

[madmack69]

Originally Posted by Yellow 13

If you wanna ease the pain just look at the price for a Bugatti Veyron

Base Price: 2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 - Approx. $1,700,000 (last update: 1/30/2006)

How many Supra's you think you could buy for that...Maybe throw in a few Ferarri's to speed things up.

I hear that, but that is in a whole other universe than most high performance imports or domestics. Those cars are beautiful pieces of work, but noone but rich oil tycoons can afford them, and they will proabably never get driven.

[calicelica]

I am really saving for an MK IV actually. Ebay's rigged Supras are considerably cheaper, and I liked them track exclusive anyway, so its a good deal. But really, what I wanted is a good RWD or AWD. I'm beginning to hate WRX or EVOS bc of their status symbol. ALmost got an alltrac celica, but didn't. After reading the "overpriced-used-supra-ridiculousness" argument... I have to agree. I test-drove an Mk IV once, and it was such a thrill. Much to my dismay though, I was so attached to celica's handling. And then I test-drove an FD, RX-7... and no other thrill comes close to match this driving experience. Not even an Mk IV, which costs double/triple/quadriple...
Supras' price won't go down so quick, even if the next generation do come up. The "new" Supra will be what? 50k? 75K?? Can't be cheaper than a lexus for sure, bc that will hurt Lexus' sales... and then the new GT-R will come out cheaper....oooh. Toyota's chance for performance box is over guys... Other than for the JGTC events, drag events, or local showcase, the Mk IV Supra is just an overpriced nostalgia.

[flyinMKIV]

I was almost about to leave this one alone, but oh well, I haven't been on the boards in a while so I will grace you guys with my presence yet again. Take a seat, class has commenced.

Do you know why the supra is a overpriced car? Because people who have them, take care of them and people who want them, can't afford them. There were only three japanese super cars that were ever made, the MKIV supra was one of them. I don't blame you for ranting and raving, but get over it. Everything you said while you wasted your brain/physical strength trying to type those pathetic excuse of posts has already been said time and time again. I love my car and a take care of my car. Call me an idiot and a retard for spending a astronomical amount of money on my car and I'm not going to shed a tear, I'm going to drive away in my car that makes me truely happy.

As for the movies, so what that they came out, It helped the import communtiy more than anything. Yes people are going to start moddifying their cars, everyone has to start somewhere and everyone has to make their mistakes. Chances are, everyone on here started out with something other than their supra and worked their way up to what they have now, I know I did. I would rather take the harassment of cops then not be able to enjoy my hobby because businesses had to close down from lack of sales. You say hollywood rammed the supra down their throats, fine. But chances are that it was the reason you wanted the supra in the first place. Believe it or not, the supra wasn't that overpriced until the movie came out. I for one am glad it came out. You might want to talk to some people about how that movie happened rather than take your own mis-construed idea about how it was made. I talk to the the technical advisor of the fast and the furious series all the time, he was the one who owned that peice of shit orange car before it was ruined with that paint and graphic scheme. He used to race on the streets and hang out, but now because of that movie, he has gone on to make other cars that have been known to the media, such as the need for speed games, his R34 from 2 fast 2 furious, which was also changed for the movie.

As for you being a genius, give me a break. You decide to come on here bitching and complaining about something that we already hear enough of. If you want to complain, find somewhere else to do it and quit wasting space.

[TcmaBoy]

Originally Posted by flyinMKIV

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Welcome back from the dead.