04 Cavalier vs 86 Camaro

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by TatII

the 305 f bodys with a auto are like what? 18 second cars stock? lol

Whoa whoa whoa there tatman. don't give those ratty engines that much credit. Lets just stick with a nice safe and even 20 seconds in the 1320.

God those things are aweful.




Edit: To answer some of the blown-up ecotec concerns, most of it is the pistons and rods. The stock pistons in the 2.2's will become unstable at around 250 bhp. I'm sure that they arent very happy even at just 230 or so either. The blocks and heads are supposed to be extremely stout and will handle a ton of pressure.

What parts on the cavy's ecotecs let loose, jayson?

[-Jayson-]

stock compression on the 2.2L ecotec is 10:1, yes every engine that blew was from a different tuner. But i also have to admit some ecotec engines are runnig very well on boost, one guy was running 19 PSI on the stock block and hitting 11's. The engine only blew when he put it up to 21 PSI. Then just a few days ago a guy running 10 PSI blew his engine while cruising normally, went to shift and the engine just shut off. Another guy threw a rod through the block, it seems that rods are going, most of the engines ive seen that were blown up had a hole in them.

[BullDog71ss]

Yeah, it seems to be a lack of strength on the bottom end. These things arent built with f/i in mind from the factory. They do hold up extremely well to f/i when the internals are built though.

[nikita7]

Originally Posted by Vtec95Civic

Am I the only one who laughed at this line?

AC does take about 10-15% of engine power no ? But this made me smile too. You can race with AC on, and when you really need some power turn it off-----> Nitrous effect haha.

[-The Stig-]

What if you reroute the AC vent into the intake stream? Cold-Air intake.

[BullDog71ss]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

What if you reroute the AC vent into the intake stream? Cold-Air intake.

I believe there was supposed to be a Ford truck of some sort that would do something sorta like this. Was supposed to last for 30-40 seconds, then take a couple min to recharge. I think it was the truck that SVT was supposed to make, then SVT was shut down.


I also notice a huge difference when racing with my a/c on, as appossed to having it off. It could literally be the difference in losing a race against a close match. It's still a funny excuse though.

[samandiar]

I test drove a POS 87 IROC once. The owner had dropped the idle to about 450rpm to "make it sound like a 350" and it had a stripped out interior. I couldn't get the tires to break loose and it didn't feel any faster than my Crown Vic

[camaromaniac]

Originally Posted by BullDog71ss

Whoa whoa whoa there tatman. don't give those ratty engines that much credit. Lets just stick with a nice safe and even 20 seconds in the 1320.

God those things are aweful.

hey now, even though i sense a bit of sarcasm in that post, i must defend the 305. i got one in my z28, and it does pretty decent. does low 15s stock. with mods, it could push out 400 hp n/a

[samandiar]

perhaps, but its much more cost-effective to swap to a 350. You'd save money in the long run