Uglyist car on the road?

[RACER D12]

Porsche owns this BMW?


or did you mean this one


lets see your GT2 own this


Like I said BMW OWNS JOO

[Cbass]

OOOHHH M1

Let's see your F1 own this!



Or this!



The GT2 is more suited to taking on the Z8, as they are both very expensive limited production cars. The GT2 is a far better performing car, and if you want to compare comfort and driveability, you should be comparing the 996 Turbo, or the Strosek 928 GTS.



PORSCHE PWNZ J00

[RACER D12]

NO NOT the RED X

What are you talking about the GT2 only makes 456hp and 457lb-ft but the Z8 makes.......(crap)... :finger:CBASS

but check this BMW M8 1994 666hp and 800NM of torque and its AWD


And Cbass I dont see any porsches in the top 30 fastest cars in the world or the fastest 0-60, but it looks like theres bmws:finger:

[pontiactrac]

Originally posted by hybridsol

No offense to german engineering, but how can you say that geman engineering is better than an italian (ferrari)??????? (F1 raceing?).

I don't know man, it's pretty close... Italians have always been the great designers and nobody is going to doubt that they make some of the most fastest cars in the world. But I think that if German companies all expanded their horizons and aimed their luxery productions like BMW and Merceides<(sp/wrg), and even Audi and Volkswagon, towards the performance aspects. They could probably make alot of impressive vehicles. Besides only Porshe.

[GTi-VR6_A3]

Originally posted by Cbass
And for the record, if money wasn't an object, I'd be cruising in a 996 Turbo as my daily driver, and a Dauer-Porsche 962 was my weekend sports car. You can keep those Ferraris, I'd be too busy to drive them anyways :hehehe:

what cbass no 968 rs or carrera rs. im surprised

-GTi-VR6_A3

[Layla's Keeper]

I don't know why I bothered, especially considering how huge a Ferrari fan I am.

I'll agree with CBass that past road-going Ferraris just don't hold together. (You try synchronizing six Weber two barrels!) But, and this is pure conjecture and personal opinion, I've driven Fiats and small Alfas, and rode in Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Maseratis, and De Tomasos. I've also had the oppurtunity to enjoy several Porsches, Benzs, and BMW's.

I've never felt anything in the German cars.

The Italian cars, and to a lesser extent the Brit built sportscars, have personality and quirks. They're tempermental nature is part of their mystique. And, they sing at high revs, communicating through vibrations, howls, chirps, swishes, and clunks. When I wind out Layla, she's alive with sound and movement. Natural and free, unfettered by dutiful pursuit or meticulous detail. The passion was in what makes people passionate. I could own an S Class Benz, and every day shut the door and never note "Wow! I like how solid this door feels when it latches." But I'll crowd myself into a 512BB's cockpit and turn the key of that Boxer 12 and immediately grin like the joker. Yes, there's the "old school" Italian seating position (long arms, short legs) and the clutch is impossibly heavy, and you have to be careful not to rush when shifting otherwise you're just grinding gears. It isn't a tool for speed, the way a 911 Turbo or AMG E55 is. This is a car that, when you finally crawl out of the seat and stretch your aching body out, you'll feel accomplishment. You'll feel a connection with the car.

You'll feel alive, and so will the car.

And I've never been in a Porsche that had that.

[Cbass]

There is definately something to be said for character, but for now, I'll just have to content myself with the wonderfully precise machinery that is the 924

[tomlong]

I dont see any porsches in the top 30 fastest cars in the world or the fastest 0-60, but it looks like theres bmws

I drive a BMW and would like to have a Porsche also. I thought the 959 did 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. That should definately be in the top 30. Isnt it?

[hybridsol]

quite frankly I think the japanese have one up on the germans. But this is merely an opinion, I really don't see how most german engineering is so complex and well thought out..... Motor placement among other things, don't get me wrong i love porshe and BMW for there perfection of valvetronics. I just think that ferrari has one up on pretty much everyone, precision engineering more than anything.

(PS- Dauer 962 Le Mans Porshe does 0-60 in 2.7 sec.)
reffer to picture posted by Cbass.

[Cbass]

Let's not forget it's mid 9 second 1/4 mile time

Psshh, 11 second Mclaren. You can keep your 11 second McLaren, Porsche owns j00 :P

[tomlong]

Psshh, 11 second Mclaren. You can keep your 11 second McLaren

I wish I had a Mclaren also. Those cars are crazy. i really like the seating configuration. I think the Mclaren will put down the quarter mile in less than 11 seconds. If not I know the top speed is faster than the Porsche. When I win the lottery I will buy one of each test them and let you guys know what I come up with. YEAH RIGHT!

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by hybridsol
quite frankly I think the japanese have one up on the germans. But this is merely an opinion, I really don't see how most german engineering is so complex and well thought out..... Motor placement among other things, don't get me wrong i love porshe and BMW for there perfection of valvetronics. I just think that ferrari has one up on pretty much everyone, precision engineering more than anything.

(PS- Dauer 962 Le Mans Porshe does 0-60 in 2.7 sec.)
reffer to picture posted by Cbass.

how does ferrari have one up?

I don't see any ferrari F50 winning LeMans or beating maclaren's or porsches


i don't think the 360 is anything to proud off when a stock NSX can beat it in a straight line or round the nearest corner.

Ferrari isn't all that its cracked up to be

NOW Lamborghini thats a different story *DROOL*

[Cbass]

Originally posted by tomlong


I wish I had a Mclaren also. Those cars are crazy. i really like the seating configuration. I think the Mclaren will put down the quarter mile in less than 11 seconds. If not I know the top speed is faster than the Porsche. When I win the lottery I will buy one of each test them and let you guys know what I come up with. YEAH RIGHT!

The McLaren does the 1/4 in 11.5 seconds.

The McLaren has a faster top speed in standard trim, but you can swap the gears and lessen the downforce on the 962 and get 280mph :/

[Cbass]

Originally posted by Monkey-Magic-S15-R


how does ferrari have one up?

I don't see any ferrari F50 winning LeMans or beating maclaren's or porsches


i don't think the 360 is anything to proud off when a stock NSX can beat it in a straight line or round the nearest corner.

Ferrari isn't all that its cracked up to be

NOW Lamborghini thats a different story *DROOL*

A 360 Modena will take an NSX in a straight line, and in the corners too.

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

Originally posted by Cbass


A 360 Modena will take an NSX in a straight line, and in the corners too.

i got a video that says otherwise