OMG....It's getting as bad as F1

freakray · 03-06-2003, 07:13 AM

Did anyone read this:
http://rally.racing-live.com/en/head...05211855.shtml

To actually attempt to force teams to hire less experienced drivers is ridiculous. All the top drivers are there on merit, if the FIA tries to force the teams to hire lesser drivers, I can imagine some of the lesser top drivers will end up looking for contracts.
Not only that, if the teams have to hire at least one driver who doesn't have a WRC win, what happens once that driver wins an event?
Does the team have to let go of that driver and get another driver without any WRC wins?

How ridiculous is this all becoming?

They are ruining the essence of motorsports!!

Ray

tricky8 · 03-06-2003, 06:17 PM

I dont know how the FIA works out but its not like for every driver that has never won an event, but it shouldn't be an event it should be the championship of the FIA, they are rather strict rules but i dont even know if the FIA has an championship so i will shut up right now...

freakray · 03-06-2003, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by tricky8
I dont know how the FIA works out but its not like for every driver that has never won an event, but it shouldn't be an event it should be the championship of the FIA, they are rather strict rules but i dont even know if the FIA has an championship so i will shut up right now...

Good timing!!
How can you comment on something you don't know about?
The FIA is the governing body if International motorsport, they oversee things like Formula 1 and WRC.
There are drivers championships in every discipline they oversee.
If you read the article I posted a link to, you would have been able to make an informed comment.

From the article:
The FIA Commission would require all the teams who have three drivers to hire a third driver that has never won a World Rally event.

This means that there must be a driver in the team that has not won A race, it says nothing about the WRChampionship title.

Guido · 03-07-2003, 12:50 PM

Although I don't agree at all, I don't think that the teams would be too upset by it. If I were team manager at one of the topteams, I'd reduce my team to 2 cars and if the third driver can find enough sponsoring budget to run 2 others cars, together with the fourth driver that is, I'd support them as well. Which means 2 teams but 4 cars.

El Matador brought in enough money to support a third car at Citroën. Afterall they intended to enter only 2 - Seb and Colin, but with Movistar money, Carlos got a complete season as well.

But still this new rule shows how incompetent the guys at FIA are with their over-regulating rulings.

k_dog · 03-10-2003, 07:38 AM

FIA rules are really starting to screw some of the top rally teams.
First of all, who wants an underexperienced rookie when you could have a previous winner that knows what to expect in certain situations. What exactly is the FIA trying to accomplish? Sounds to me like if the FIA gets tired of seeing certain teams win the championship, then they make a new regulation to hinder that teams ability to accomplish anything.

If you ask me, it's a load of crap.

Brian

Focus2000 · 03-18-2003, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by freakray
Did anyone read this:
http://rally.racing-live.com/en/head...05211855.shtml

Complete and utter insanity! What on earth is the point of winning if they're just going to keep changing the rules to penalise the top team? In the end they'll just drive away the top names from the sport, and then what will happen to their precious global audience? The FIA seem to have nothing better to do than meddle with things that don't need changing

It's not like this is the first time in WRC history that one team has had dominancy for 2-3 seasons. Subaru have managed it in the not-too-distant past, as have Audi, Ford ..... If anything, the first two rallies of this season have shown that the title race could be a lot more closely fought. Citroen have certainly rattled Peugeot's cage, and Ford and Subaru aren't too far off the pace.

Still, the FIA have arsed about with Formula 1 for some time, I suppose it was just a matter of time before their attention turned to the WRC.

It just makes me mad

RallyRaider · 03-19-2003, 06:50 PM

[Shakes head in disgust]

At the moment it is all just speculation, but the fact that some fool in the FIA is entertaining such ideas is not good.

Shows they don't have much faith in the Super 1600 or Junior WRC doesn't it?

freakray · 04-25-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by RallyRaider
[Shakes head in disgust]

At the moment it is all just speculation, but the fact that some fool in the FIA is entertaining such ideas is not good.

Shows they don't have much faith in the Super 1600 or Junior WRC doesn't it?

It doesn't look like it is speculation any longer Phil.....what are they trying to do:cry:

http://rally.racing-live.com/en/head...25181410.shtml

RallyRaider · 04-26-2003, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by freakray

It doesn't look like it is speculation any longer Phil.....what are they trying to do:cry:

http://rally.racing-live.com/en/head...25181410.shtml

Sigh...
If stupidity is contagious, the FIA should be quarantined!

In F1 certain drivers get paid enough to feed, clothe and educate a small nation, and the FIA think that is all fine and dandy. But in WRC a driver like Carlos Sainz takes the initiative to negotiate and finance his own drive, at no cost to his team and the powers that be want him out cause he's considered too sucessfull, or just an old fart!

laxmaster7 · 06-23-2003, 05:09 PM

While that rule probably wouldnt hurt the teams too bad, the principle of it is just sad. The FIA needs to do something to occupy its time besides punishing talent in the name of 'competition'. It's not competition when the playing field isnt level.

z33guy · 06-23-2003, 06:03 PM

i have been against this rule since i heard it and i still am. If they bring in a unknown driver and he goes and wins the championship, is he out at the end of the season? or do they release another driver for another unknown?

Tso · 06-25-2003, 06:06 AM

it's their silly attempt to "bring the competition closer."

just like limiting the number of tyre options you can have.

well, kinda like that anyways.

i do think they should sod off with that one.

z33guy · 06-25-2003, 02:38 PM

looks like sainz and gille will be looking for new rides next year

. I thought the rule called for drivers with no wins. But its for drivers who have not had a top 3 in 3 years.

freakray · 06-25-2003, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by z33guy
looks like sainz and gille will be looking for new rides next year . I thought the rule called for drivers with no wins. But its for drivers who have not had a top 3 in 3 years.

Personally, I think Citroen would be better getting rid of Mcrae rather than Sainz, considering the way Mcrae is driving.

Peugeot are likely letting Burnsie go anyway, so they may keep Gilles in preference over Harri?

There's a lot to speculate and we are a long way from the silly season.

z33guy · 06-25-2003, 03:46 PM

i was thinking the exact same thing. Saina has been running better and he brings some sponsorship to. Does mcrae, or is it just name he brings?

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