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Old 06-18-2009, 01:57 PM   #16
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

Nice race man! My friend sid has a vr4 with intake, 3" turbo-back with a cutout like mine, ebc @14.5psi, and hefty clutch (dont know what kind) and he raced my friend with an ls1 camaro 6-speed with intake and cat-back from a 35 to about 100 or so and sid had about a car or so on him. Sweet race to witness for sure! Ever since sid finally took advice and got his car checked out and found out some if the injector seals were leaking its been a whole new beast since we fixed it. Im tuning the camaro soon so they may have to have a rematch afterwards to see how good i tune it!
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:06 PM   #17
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

Sometimes from reading this board, it makes me think that the VR4 outsold the Supra, Skyline, ZX300, FD, Corvette, and Mustang combined. More of you guys have VR4s or friends with them than the entirity of 3S.org. Damn...
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:25 PM   #18
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Sometimes from reading this board, it makes me think that the VR4 outsold the Supra, Skyline, ZX300, FD, Corvette, and Mustang combined. More of you guys have VR4s or friends with them than the entirity of 3S.org. Damn...


Actually, I believe it was in 2000, Ford sold more Mustangs in that one year than the number of 3S's made in all 9 years on every trim level. The only reason I know so many people with 3S's is because I am on 3S boards both internationally and locally. On top of that, I live a fairly good-sized city so there are quite a few people around here that have them. But yes, we are #1 and always will be.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:38 PM   #19
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

The stealth is my bros now so its still in the family, so I can haz be #1 also! Woot! Lol
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

You guys may think you're #1... but soon as something breaks on the 3S... you're back to #214.

AWD/FWD V6 w/or w/out TT. Pain in the ass to work on.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:43 PM   #21
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

I drive a Saturn so I'm used to taking a number in line lol
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You guys may think you're #1... but soon as something breaks on the 3S... you're back to #214.

AWD/FWD V6 w/or w/out TT. Pain in the ass to work on.
Pssshht! While it is not as easy to work on as an old car with a V8, they aren't that terrible. If you take 5 minutes to remove some of the intercooler piping, you have a LOT more free space. Doing large jobs can be a PITA at time but overall it really isn't that bad. Take a look at the 300ZX TT's. Just to replace the turbos you have to pull the motor. Plus, we want it to be difficult to work on! Makes us better mechanics for it.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:28 AM   #23
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

And when you get the intake plenum off it makes it pretty easy to do plugs and injectors. The first time we had it off on the vr4 for the injectors it took us 4 or 5 hours from start to finish, but the second time for spark plugs we did it in under 2 hours. Not too bad after you've done it once.
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

First time I did the spark plugs it took me about 2 hours to do. In fact, you don't even have to completely remove the plenum. You just unbolt enough shit to where you can prop it up with a 2x6 board to get to the rear plugs. I would be willing to be that if I did it agian I could do it in a hour and a half or maybe less.
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

You used a 2x6 eh? We used a piece of intercooler piping from a friends old 240 lol. We didnt take it off either, and it took us about 2 hours or so to do plugs, but when we did injectors it took us hella long because it was our first time and we were being cautious.

Another thing we did was undent the oil pan. Sounds pretty straight forward, but you have to take off some cross members or whatever and of course the transfer case. More work than one would think but it was actually a lot easier than i thought.
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Re: WS6 vs VR4

I changed the plugs in my TA yesterday and I could not for the life of me get number 8 out. Had to go get a friend. I couldnt get my arms in there.

Took me a couple hours though plus an oil change...
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VR4 all the way!!
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I changed the plugs in my TA yesterday and I could not for the life of me get number 8 out. Had to go get a friend. I couldnt get my arms in there.

Took me a couple hours though plus an oil change...
I have heard the rear plug/s on LS1's can be a real PITA to change as well. How do you get to the rear plug/s? Disconnect one of the motor mounts?
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I have heard the rear plug/s on LS1's can be a real PITA to change as well. How do you get to the rear plug/s? Disconnect one of the motor mounts?
The 1,3,5,7 plugs were simple. Now the 2,4 plug were a little more difficult but I removed coil packs to get the rest of them. The number 6 plug was a bitch but the number 8 was impossible for me.

I barely got one arm back there but the guy that did it was able to get both his arms back there and got the old out and new in in like 5 minutes...
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