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02-12-2003, 08:22 PM | #16 | |
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I completely agree with what your saying, if only we could get GM to listen to what we have to say somehow. I never meant GM had superior styling, although they do have the resources to do better than what they have been doing.
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02-12-2003, 08:32 PM | #17 | ||
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When it comes to styling, every car company has potential, a lot of the companies nowadays are going for a more futuristic look, as seen with nissan and its new R35, not bad in my opinion but lacking in some areas, as well as pontiac with its concept of the Solstice, I honestly like this car and should it come on the market, would buy one (if I had money). I agree though, I believe that if this car is to be sold to the consumer, the consumer should have ideas thrown in by themselves as to what they want out of a car appearance wise.
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02-13-2003, 07:19 PM | #18 | |
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In my opinion the new GTO should look more like the 2004 Grand Prix GPX, but they decided to use the better styling for a Grand Prix rather than the GTO. ILike2DriveCars you have said what I have pretty much been trying to say since I first saw a pic of the new GTO. I would just love to see what Delorean has to say about the destroying of his creation... Anyway, GM does have the recources to be better than any car company out there, even Fiat, but they just aren't doing it... Maybe we will see more from them in the future.
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02-13-2003, 09:50 PM | #19 | |
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I think that some of it may have a little to do with money matters. They are making money, they know that their GTO will sell no matter who thinks it's ugly, simply because "Hey, it's a GTO!" Essentially, if they make the quota needed to keep their car in production, they dont care, and will continue to not care until a better design comes along.
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02-14-2003, 11:03 AM | #20 | |
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I really don't understand the debate. The new GTO follows the SAME formula as all other GTOs. Delorean's recipe was followed.
The new GTO is the two-door version of a family sedan powered by the largest engine available. The new GTO is RWD, stick, and V8-powered in a relatively small package. What's to complain about? Had the GTO survived continuously from its introduction to today, how would it be different? With idea of being turbocharged in the 1980s and possibly (probably) going FWD in the early 1990s, THIS is where the GTO SHOULD be today. The Holden-based GTO is the heir to the original GTO. Just because it doesn't have the side-of-a-barn aerodynamics of earliest GTOS? Just because it has a wing (remember the Judge was offered with a wing)? Just because it's built in Australia? Not good enough reasons to complain about this edition. |
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02-14-2003, 01:59 PM | #21 | |
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Except, that's not what the debate was about. We're discussing how cars nowadays aren't made with as much ambition as they used to be.
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02-14-2003, 04:51 PM | #22 | ||
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And BTW, it's not a wing, it's a spoiler. Wings = RICE. |
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02-14-2003, 08:16 PM | #23 | |
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This just goes to show that the manufacturers of today just pretty much dont care. IMO
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02-28-2003, 11:33 AM | #25 | |
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03-01-2003, 10:11 PM | #27 | |
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As said previous to this post, Yes, indeed the creator the HOLDEN MANERO likes how the new GTO looks. That kinda bothers me. I would have had no problems if the GTO looked like that by someones own design from pontiac. But pontiac didnt even design the car! It's a take off of an already existing car. Granted this car is in Austrailia, but that means that someone already has a car that looks like that so basically you dont have something unique, you have something that someone else had first and the American branch decided to slap a different badge on it. I myself thought the original GTO was badass, it had a mean look to it to go with its awesome power. The new GTO is a Grand Am/Grand Prix hybrid with a V8; Yippee.
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Hey guys how about some perspective? The car you guys are getting as a GTO is infact a nose job challenged version of the (GM) Holden Monaro.
The Monaro was an Australian muscle car of the 60's/70's available in a variety of configurations but the gun version was the 69 327 Chev power 4 speed Saginaw 10 bolt diff. ( had an family friend with one ) The Monaro was the 2 door variant of the 4 door sedan/wagon, it eventually got killed off as a 2 door (with 350 Chev 4spd)and became a trim/power option in 4 door form for 1972/3 before it was killed off in a supercar scare here. the last 2 door cars were called LS and were fitted with the local 308 V8 and luxo trim. The new Monaro started as a backroom after hours engineering project using as much of the current Commodore (4 door sedan/wagon RWD) bits as they could. Some photos snuck out to the local press and peopl,e started putting hard currency down to own one. The Monaro looks good, everyone here in Australia agree the pointiac nose job is woeful but thats what pontiac did to make it a part of their lineup. By the way locally (in Australia) they're building a limited edition(50 units) with a 427 Big block 6 speed and all the other go fast bits. Now thats a modern muscle car and no crap Pontiac nose either.
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08-13-2003, 07:23 AM | #30 | |
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I'm going to put my original thread post in another forum and see what other people think about it...
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