Fujiwara 86

[Cbass]

Hmm, upon closer inspection the Watanabe RS is just a minilite...

The car is a hatchback, I think it's and '85 but I'm not sure. The thing is immaculate, fairly low KMs, everything looks clean.

I want a GTS for the better suspension, and the LSD(the GTS did have a LSD, right?). As for the engine swap, I do know what I am doing. The only thing that concerns me is redoing the entire harness, because that will take a week at least.

As for my original question, what can I expect for power from a 20V with a good engine build?

[Cbass]

Hey, with a deal like this, I'm sold... This project is on the backburner for now though, I still have a Porsche 931 to restore, and Aerostar shop van to rebuild(aiming for 300-350hp right now), and I have to get to work on my RX7 400M project.

[turbos86]

Originally posted by Cbass
Hmm, upon closer inspection the Watanabe RS is just a minilite...

The car is a hatchback, I think it's and '85 but I'm not sure. The thing is immaculate, fairly low KMs, everything looks clean.

I want a GTS for the better suspension, and the LSD(the GTS did have a LSD, right?). As for the engine swap, I do know what I am doing. The only thing that concerns me is redoing the entire harness, because that will take a week at least.

As for my original question, what can I expect for power from a 20V with a good engine build?

Canadian GTS never came with LSD, and rarely did the ones in the USA did.

20V are very high revving like all 4AGs, the torque and power comes on very late like Honda engines. I've never actually work on a 20V before so I don't know what it's capable of. But I've seen it run in an AE82 here in Vancouver, and the owner claims it can follow close to an Integra Type R but not beat it.

[Spr1nter86]

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originally posted by Turbo86
WRONG

The 8 spoke banana peel design orginate from the original Mini Cooper. The design was "used" by many companies and RS Watanabes got their ideas by "looking" at Panasport.
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sorry, i guess i don't know shit after all. i'll just shut up from now on...

[Cbass]

I hope that's not meant to be sarcastic, because he's right, they were originally made for the Mini in the 60s, and are thus called Minilites.

I thought they had a LSD standard... oh well. It shouldn't be too hard to put a differential from another Toyota on, such as a Supra MK2 or MK3. This isn't going to be a top speed car, not by far, so I'll look for a very high gear. This project is more an autocrosser, with some weekend play in the mountains as well

What is the factory differential ratio?

[nemo_wolf]

umm american GTS had LSD as a standard actually ... i trust you know your shit ... but i know this first hand. You can rarely find one for sale with LSD since you can part that out for like 200 bucks alone and make a nice little bit that wont really lower your cars price.

[Spr1nter86]

ummmm.... i wasn't being sarcastic in that last post. i really was wrong.

but anyways, the lsd on the u.s. gts was optional. some have them and some don't. just like some came with cruise control, sunroof, power windows, etc. and some did not. you can just look under the car and look for the "LSD OIL ONLY" sticker on the rear axle housing or just drive it to find out if it does have an lsd.

not all toyota lsd's will work on the ae86. even if you purchase an aftermarket lsd you have to make sure that the car already had an lsd(factory/aftermarket) to begin with. this is because the axles between the lsd and non lsd rear ends are different; the non lsd axles being a bit longer. i'm not saying that you have to buy an ae86 with an lsd to begin with, but if you buy one without an lsd, you will have to find lsd axles if you plan to install one.

i'm not a dick nor do i try to be sarcastic. some of the things i learn about are from people's word of mouth but most is from my own experience with the car. some of what i learn comes from a friend who bought the car when it first came out in 1985.

i didn't buy the car because of a cartoon. i've owned ae86s even before people thought they were cool. i used to get looked down at for driving that car but i didn't care; i just said: f#ck what other people think...

but anyways. this turned out to be a long post.
sorry...

[Lafora]

Originally posted by Spr1nter86

not all toyota lsd's will work on the ae86. even if you purchase an aftermarket lsd you have to make sure that the car already had an lsd(factory/aftermarket) to begin with. this is because the axles between the lsd and non lsd rear ends are different; the non lsd axles being a bit longer.

WRONG!

if that's the case, no one in canada would be able to install a lsd

85 axles are different from 86/87. that's the ONLY difference.

so as long as you buy an lsd that corresponds to the early / late model WITH axles, it's a simple swap

whether or not the car had lsd to begin with is irrelevant

[Spr1nter86]

"85 axles are different from 86/87. that's the ONLY difference.

so as long as you buy an lsd that corresponds to the early / late model WITH axles, it's a simple swap

whether or not the car had lsd to begin with is irrelevant"

that's what i said. you need to get axles if you're gonna install an lsd on a non lsd ae86. did you read up to this part?:
"...you will have to find lsd axles if you plan to install one. "

[Lafora]

why not just grind it

[Cbass]

I was thinking a diff from a supra or another RWD Toyota, but then I ran into the problem, the high gearing. This why I need to know the differential ratio for the GTS...

[Lafora]

think our final drive is 4.3 : 1

[Cbass]

It would probably be hard to find a 4.3:1 axle, and I want the gears to be fairly close, so I'll just get an 86 with factory LSD...

[97accordvtec]

whats the stock hp or an ae 86

and the corolla gts?
and one more thing is the 4ag that takumi (or his dad) puts in his car really 250 hp
(pls dont be mean =))

[97accordvtec]

no one knows? damm ...