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Old 01-29-2004, 10:30 AM   #16
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Re: first rally car suggestions...

I know this may sound stupid... but... are there any FWD cars in WRC now? I thought the Focus and Pugs were AWD?
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Old 01-29-2004, 12:21 PM   #17
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What about the Volkswagen Golf? The FF Golf is a very formidable rally car. It's cheap, reliable, and VERY easy to mod.
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Old 01-29-2004, 02:59 PM   #18
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Re: first rally car suggestions...

All cars in WRC are AWD.
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Old 02-02-2004, 02:59 AM   #19
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Re: Re: first rally car suggestions...

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If you actually look into the WRC, no teams run RWD in any class, it's all AWD or FWD for an obvious reason.

The obvious reason being the lack of RWD platforms suitable for rallying from any of the currently competeing manufactors.

And from my own experiance in 1600cc class rallying here in NZ the RWD cars were all significantly faster than any of the FWD cars, not even early Kit Car class cars (for runners to the current F2? class) were able to compete on the same level as old RWD Escorts, Corrolas, and Starlets.
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Old 04-12-2004, 04:04 AM   #20
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Re: first rally car suggestions...

Yeah dont rally a RWD, I have been for the last few weeks and look what happened last night:

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Old 04-12-2004, 06:25 AM   #21
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I'd get a Lancia.

No clue how the prices in the us are, but look at this one:
http://www.mobile.de/SIDXHnB5hc68gsG...5007975&top=9&

this thing is just hellish fast and fun to drive. I already thought about buying this one

get some ricy stickers and you'll be the man with this one.

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Old 04-12-2004, 05:47 PM   #22
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No Lancias in America

They don't sell Lancias in the U.S.

If you want a car that you don't have to worry about crashing, get an RWD Corolla or Celica. RWD is my favorite platform, but the higher the horsepower the easier it is to push it to far. An awd has a much better balance for rally purposes, but could be a bit expensive. For a "reasonably priced" awd car get a 90-95 Talon, or Eclipse, or a celica all-trac. A 323GTX is ridiculously hard to find. Whatever you do dont go fwd.... unless you enjoy using the handbrake a lot. The "joy of rally" is having the back end out, awd gets the job done with medium understeer, and a fwd has way too much understeer. RWD Rallying is extremely dangerous if youre not used to having crazy oversteer, but eventually you'll get used to it. If you plan on "really cutting loose" in a rally sprint, or in an actual rally get awd. If you plan on doing mostly rallycross, any car will work.

And also- RWD rally cars(Lancia 037, Renault-5Turbo) were taken out of the WRC because too many people were dying.
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Old 04-12-2004, 06:30 PM   #23
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Celica All-Tracs are hard to find... The GT-Fours are even harder.
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Old 04-13-2004, 05:16 PM   #24
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Hi guys im From UK
If you want to look at lower class rally cars IE 1600 super1600
Nearly all are ff in the jwrc and is known as a proving ground like Sebastian lobe, Colin McRae
In the UK we have a large amount of championships and
class's as set by MSAUK as well as a fair few one make series that run along side the full championship like the Peugeot Cup and the
Peugeot 1400 the latter being the one I am going to start next year all you need in a pug 1400 and the Peugeot kit £6k all in you put it together and all the cars are all the same A5 class so you rally the pug 1400 cup and the BTARA CHEEP as Chips
Surly in America they do the same and have one make rally
and you should look for one you like the looks of
Don’t forget you have to normally get a B rally Licence as well
but good luck
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Old 04-13-2004, 05:38 PM   #25
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another reason to start rallying in a ff car is that it handles alot more like the AWD car in the new age of rallying going sidways and geting the back out are just not the awnser look at it this way not so much power slide.
new ageyou sacrifise time into the corner to gain more time on the exit unlike the belt it in there togol the hand break start pendulum hard tweek start slide drop gear power down slide slide grip and then go time is lost the newer gen of world class rally drivers will tell you clean driving works look at Lobe from super 1600 to tester now Citron ace his normal drives very cleanly more F1 than i would like to admit
richard burns started in the pug 1600 cup and won 2001 WRC
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:36 PM   #26
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Re: first rally car suggestions...

Alright I dont know if you have moved on or what by now but if your are still looking I have talked with some Scca ProRallyers here in the US. If your are looking for a good cheep car to start with try a Golf or GTI. Should be able to fine a rally prepared one for 3000 to 6000. Or a Dodge clot or 323 Awd or fwd. This would most likely get let you go all the way to clubrallying or farther if all the specs are there, cage qualifications and what not. if you are just starting rallycross any car will do, i have seen neons, focuses, mercury avengers, really anything will work no special crap either. If you are looking for an awd try a 323 gtx, tallon, or eclipse they should run under 6000 for a nice one. again sorry if this is long over.
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Old 09-03-2004, 05:14 AM   #27
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Re: No Lancias in America

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They don't sell Lancias in the U.S.

If you want a car that you don't have to worry about crashing, get an RWD Corolla or Celica. RWD is my favorite platform, but the higher the horsepower the easier it is to push it to far. An awd has a much better balance for rally purposes, but could be a bit expensive. For a "reasonably priced" awd car get a 90-95 Talon, or Eclipse, or a celica all-trac. A 323GTX is ridiculously hard to find. Whatever you do dont go fwd.... unless you enjoy using the handbrake a lot. The "joy of rally" is having the back end out, awd gets the job done with medium understeer, and a fwd has way too much understeer. RWD Rallying is extremely dangerous if youre not used to having crazy oversteer, but eventually you'll get used to it. If you plan on "really cutting loose" in a rally sprint, or in an actual rally get awd. If you plan on doing mostly rallycross, any car will work.

And also- RWD rally cars(Lancia 037, Renault-5Turbo) were taken out of the WRC because too many people were dying.
A well balanced FWD drifts very nicely. In my 85 crx the only time I used the ebrake was on the tightest hairpins. Otherwise the theory is pretty much the same as awd and rwd.
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Old 09-25-2004, 05:20 PM   #28
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Re: first rally car suggestions...

Tiburons make great rally cars. Even a FWD Tib is a force to be reckoned with. Turbo it, throw a performance suspension on, and you'll be good to go.
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