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01-15-2008, 06:08 PM | #1 | |
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impala 3.4 vs 3.8
hi i want to buy a 2001 impala 3.4 l
i was told that the 3.8l was much better and had less problems...now i dont know much about cars can someone tell me what the 3.4l motor has in terms of problems... thankyou so much!!! noemie xxx |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
The 3.4 have problems with intake gaskets also.Fel Pro makes metal intake gaskets for them in place of the plastic intake gaskets.They are more money than the plastic ones and are a lot better.The 3.8 has has problems with the upper intakes and most parts stores stock them.
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01-16-2008, 11:21 PM | #4 | |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
3.8 is a hundred times better. 3.4 sucks in every way. Weak at all speeds, noisy, coarse at speeds above 3k rpm, known oil and coolant leaks, mainly due to bad intake gaskets and often times head gaskets. It also doesn't get the greatest gas mileage. Occasionally, it can start really hard too.
The 3.8 is definetly more powerful, enough for a car as large as the Impala. Its smooth at all speeds, great on gas, completely reliable, and cheap to maintain. The only thing that can go wrong is the upper intake.
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01-18-2008, 04:38 PM | #5 | |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
I bought a used 2003 Impala...3.4...and it is VERY VERY strong and fast.
I have built up a few hotrods...my last was an IROC Z that I put a PAXTON SUPERCHARGER setup on.....so I know what speed is.. My Impala...is so smooth at ALL RPM ranges....and handling is awesome....and the quick jump off the line...is unmatched...in it's class. I think the problems that have been spoken of here come mainly from ABUSE of the cars..and LACK OF MAINTENANCE...which will happen in any model car. You must take care of your ride..and your ride will take care of you....! THE 2003 IMPALA is an awesome car.....for the money especially...!!! |
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01-18-2008, 09:25 PM | #6 | |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
Every 3.4 built through 2003 will experience gasket problems that can lead to major engine problems if not taken care of rapidly. Most 3.8's will also have similar problems. However, all in all, the 3.8 is a much more reliable and durable motor. While most 3.4's will never make it beyond 120k miles, the 3.8 is generally good for 200k+ miles.
I don't know what 3.4 you are talking about, but smooth and powerful do not apply. Perhaps if you are comparing it to an 80's car or a 4 cylinder, but no way is it even close to being as smooth or powerful as most modern motors. The 3.8 is one of the best for smoothness (though occasionally it can sound loud at redline) and has great power up until about 90 mph, at which point it no longer will pull quite as strong.
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01-19-2008, 01:14 AM | #7 | |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
whatever... my Impala ... is strong and works like a charm ...you think I'm dreaming or making this up...give me a break.
If you don't like the car... go on down the road....I'm telling you...the engine is STRONG..and .... the power is clean and strong throughout the RPM...range.. My car is WELL maintained.... and strong... to each his own..... |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
Every DAY...I'm leaving all makes and models behind....quick takeoff...good gas mileage..... strong. pulll of the line...
hey I know what.... bring on whatever it is you are driving...and meet me at the stoplight...OK... Put your money where your mouth is... |
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01-19-2008, 07:50 AM | #11 | |
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Well, I might as well join the fray...I have had my 02 imp 3400 for 2.5 years. 61k at purchase I have put 12k on it in that time and had (0) engine problems. It is plenty strong for my taste, but then I am 58 so the younger guys may want more as the 3.8 does have....I am sure they are similar in maintenence costs as far as oil and coolant needs, and tuning. Regular oil and filter changes, and coolant every 2 years, trans filter/oil 60k intervals will keep you on the road with either engine you choose. I have had to replace the battery, rotors and pads 65k...one wheel bearing front, and plugs and wires......Oh, one windshield....and one coolant flush and refill and one air filter and one cabin filter (under pass side cowl). Nothing there you couldn't have with any make or model car on the market in todays offers. The only complaint I have is the noisy valve train and not so great in town mileage. In mileage disscussions in this forum it is said many times the 3.8 does better in this category....but driving habits play a big role in these claims and for sure determination is not possible in this matter.
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01-19-2008, 07:47 PM | #12 | |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
As for the comment about taxis, I believe any Impala that was ordered with the Taxi or Police package included the 3.8 and an HD transmission + HD suspension, despite having the base Impala looks.
As for those of you who think the 3.4 is so great, go drive a 3.8 and it will knock you to the floor. I owned a 3.4 (Venture) a few years ago and currently own a 3.8 s/c (Grand prix) and the difference in refinement and power is incredible. But that's comparing apples to oranges. I've driven many 3.8 naturally aspirated vehicles, including several Impala LS's. The 3.8 is hands-down one of the best engines ever made. The 3.4 is a real crappile in comparison. Trust me. I've driven them both alot. I know. I also see in daily life the miles that 3.8's can put on, whereas 3.4's won't last nearly as long.
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
As mentioned above, a vehicle will usually last as long as the maintenance and timely repair will take it. That said, the 231 Buick V-6 is probably the best all-around V-6 ever made. It has been in use since the mid '60s in everything from sports cars to sedans to Jeeps to vans to commercial engines. The rotating assembly is massive for it's displacement, the valve train is bullet-proof (not so easy to say about the 3.1/3.4L Chevy V-6), the block has superior web design between banks, and the wider main journals (15mm vs. 23mm) spread out the forces over a larger area, making bearing life far superior. As a result, they don't suffer the notorious piston slap and rod knock that so many of the Chevy V-6s do. They have also been boosted to levels that would shred the block on the 3.1/3.4L Chevy engine, namely in Turbo Buick like the GN and Pontiac TTA, and to even higher levels of power by custom builders. They seem to get along just fine making 500 HP, where the Chevy V-6 would not last long at that rate.
Again, for a normally street driven engine, timely maintenance and repair should take either to very high mileage, but the Buick just has the design which makes it inherently more stable and robust, giving it a distinct advantage in survival.
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01-22-2008, 05:06 AM | #14 | |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
Blue Bowtie, Very well written and easy to understand. Thanks for the post and for mentioning the idea here for the most part, concern is for the street use vehicle. Kudo's from Southwest OH....!
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01-27-2008, 03:03 PM | #15 | |
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Re: impala 3.4 vs 3.8
IMO most of the 3.8 i know of wih propper care go well over 150k
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