No oil on the dipstick?/

[j cAT]

Originally Posted by KiwiBacon

My diesel 4wd takes at least half an hour for the oil to drain back down. I know of some truck drivers who got in the crap for exactly this reason.

They started up a truck (mack ultraliner) then realised they'd forgotten to check the oil.
They shut it down and "holy crap", no oil showing on the dipstick.
They put in 8 litres (yes 8 litres) to bring it up to the mark, then drove it for a couple of hundred km towing a curtain side trailer.
At the other end they found most of those extra 8 litres of oil had been blown out the engine breather and was dripping off their trailer.

Boss wasn't too happy.

this is a good example of how cold oil will not flow well.... if this engine had just come off the hwy carrying a load it would have shown oil at proper mark.....in a few minuites.....if you start a cold engine for 1minute and then shut it down you will have this occur...oil level will not be correct..

[slideways...]

Originally Posted by 72chevelleOhio

Thank you.

dude are you completely retarted? why did you even post this? are you trying to back up my point?

EDIT: im sorry i should clarify since you seem to not understand proper english syntax.

my first statement was regarding---
you think that since it takes a few minutes or whatever for your oil to leave your oil pan, that all cars must be the same and theres no way this has anything to do with the fact that it takes a while for multiple quarts of thick fluid to exit out of a small hole.

then you try and put something in about me actually knowing what im talking about? i dont get it.

please clarify, your shit talking confuses me.

[KiwiBacon]

Originally Posted by j cAT

this is a good example of how cold oil will not flow well.... if this engine had just come off the hwy carrying a load it would have shown oil at proper mark.....in a few minuites.....if you start a cold engine for 1minute and then shut it down you will have this occur...oil level will not be correct..

Very true.
But even when warm my 4wd takes longer than 10 minutes to return to level. Basically the time taken to fill it up with fuel and pay isn't long enough. But that puts it within about 1/4" of where it settles to overnight.

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maybe 1% or so of cars i change oil on take longer than 30 seconds to get within 1 mm of the top of the dipstick after an oil change. and waiting a day doesnt change the level at all. why is my experience so different?

and why does it matter? the guy has a saturn. there is no tricks or technology in his car. if GM wanted to, it could have made a saturn sl equivalent car in the 60s.

[UncleBob]

if the engine is gunked up, the head won't drain well. Then it could take an abnormally long time to get a high reading.

As a general rule, it should be very close to the max you're going to see in 60 seconds or so

(unless its a dry sump system, not something you see too often in cars )

[MobileMom]

You guys are all being obnoxiously close minded. There is not necessarily one right answer to this question. And untill the guy who posted the question answers some well asked questions for details, no one will truly know how to diagnose his problem. Of course, with all your bantering, he may have been scared off, or laughing his pants of from watching ya'll argue.

Remember the objective here guys. We're suppose to be answering the question asked, not arguing over who has more experience or who knows better.

I have seen vehicles that take 5 minutes to do an oil change, and vehicles that take an hour to change cause you have to wait for the oil to make it past all the sludge in the engine. I have seen some valuable answers in this thread, and some really rediculus ones, but none of them are necessarily wrong.

Play nice guys, its much more fun that way!

[UncleBob]

yes mom.....

[MobileMom]

good boy

[2.2 Straight six]

wow. what a bunch of girls.

seriously guys, please pull it together. we've all got different opinions and experiences. all car have different specs and methods for working on them. and no two jobs are exactly the same.

either quit the bitching or i'll close this. end of.

[j cAT]

Originally Posted by KiwiBacon

Very true.
But even when warm my 4wd takes longer than 10 minutes to return to level. Basically the time taken to fill it up with fuel and pay isn't long enough. But that puts it within about 1/4" of where it settles to overnight.

Yes I agree that it will be slightly off from overnight drain time.... but if it normally takes 1hour to get an accurate reading like within 1/2 quart I would remove valve cover and insect for sludge,drain back restrictions, etc....

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by 2.2 Straight six

wow. what a bunch of girls.

seriously guys, please pull it together. we've all got different opinions and experiences. all car have different specs and methods for working on them. and no two jobs are exactly the same.

either quit the bitching or i'll close this. end of.

Yes Dad.

[J-Ri]

Originally Posted by Moppie

Yes Dad.

[2.2 Straight six]

Originally Posted by Moppie

Yes Dad.

Good boy. *pats head*