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Talking 3D Automotive Supercar Design

Here is a recent Automotive Design that I completed. I'm currently trying to mareket this to car companies, and I also do completly custom jobs for companies in which I design a car that alligns perfectly with their current lineup, and can be made in ANY desired style. So if any of you have connections and help me out...you may see this car on the road some day.

The best feature it the convertable feature. The hard top has a single intake, and at the press of a button, the top automatically slides neatly behind the passenger compartnent, using only inches of space. The single intake top now has trasnformed to 2 intake, giving increased style.

Give me your input on what you like, and what needs to be changed.

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if you did it it's vvvveeeeeeerrrrryyyyy good!!!!!!!!!! :silly2: :sun: :sun: :sun:
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Of course I designed this car...

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1 more thing. Make a request to see that car from a specific angle with a specific pant job. Please give me a link to a picture of a car with the paint job, and another link to a pic at the specific angle you request. I'm willing to do this because I believe you guys know paints better than I do.
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HOLLLLLLYYY SHIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT................damn man you got skills...........shit that is so fuckin nuts..............ohhh shit.............whew shit thats wikked
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DUDE!!!! How do you do that? I wanna try that!
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Looks real good, man!! A few suggestions/comments: If its possible, make the windows frameless, or make the frame kinda sweep into the body work instead of just sticking out, it looks a little awkward with the top down. Also, the rear end is a little dull, and where exactly are the taillights? Other than that, looks amazing, nice work!
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He, he... Thanks...

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It takes a lot of time, an extremly High IQ, and a lot of creativity, and the capability to completly visualise an object in your head and visualise it from any angle. Any less, and you cant make soemthing this high quality.

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Dude, thanks for the suggestion(about the door frame). I've gotten lots of suggestions, but tht is the best one I've recieved to date... Currently adding to "to do" list... Could you elaborate further about the back end? Do I need more details? Are the existing details dull?


To locate the rear lights, look for the rear view of the yellow car. Most obvious there.
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ok, now that i see where the lights are, i think the back looks a little better. I'm not exactly sure what i would suggest to improve the rear, i just dont think its quite as distinctive as the rest, still looks good though. Just out of curiousity, about how many polys make up that model? Looks like a hell of a lot! Also, what program(s) did you use to construct/render it?
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ok the 3d work is excellent and design is slick

the car it self looks good

but on the grand scale of things its styling is outdated for a conceptual car IMO

you need to be years ahead in styling

look at the new prototypes see how the style is way hmmm unortodox

like the lexus in minoroty report
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No offense Zammo...

The Lexus in minority report was a sleek version of the VW beetle. That is not the future of design. These "futuristic" designs really aren't that appealing, jsut diffferent. Most of them have huge/large curves, and would not be sucessgful in todays market, and would be laughed at 10 or 20 years from now if someone actually produced them. I could create 100's of car with similar style to that lexus very quickly, but that is not what I'm goign for. Perhaps my next 2 Design that are currently in progress will clearly demonstrate my point that there is no need for wierd blobby absttract shapes.

I build my designs to last for many years to come. Thatis perhaps the real reason I do not resort to such cheap 'fraudalent' designs.

My design was based on current/recent research in technology and aerodynamics, and the unique styling is carefully planned.
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I replied to this thread in the Concept Cars section. But I think it deserves more praise. Amazing job. I draw cars, but no way can a drawing look as realistic as this. I gotta get into this stuff...
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...It takes a lot of time, an extremly High IQ, and a lot of creativity, and the capability to completly visualise an object in your head and visualise it from any angle. Any less, and you cant make soemthing this high quality...
Heh, though designing cars might be a strong point of yours, humility isn't. Just kidding, I'd brag too. I'm curious how in-depth you've gone with this design, whether it's mainly cosmetic or you've figured out the mechanicals. Cutaway shots would be interesting.

Here are a few comments, in no particular order:
1st: I don't quite like the rear view mirrors, they look flimsy. Perhaps if they were anchored differently, closer down to the car, they might look less tacked-on. They're also very small considering they're the only source of rearward visibility. I think they'd look better if more integrated.
2nd: The A-pillar appears to curve slightly inwards from a frontal view, and the window out. It looks good from the side, funny from the front.
3rd: How do the doors open? Do they swing upwards or out? Am I correct in assuming that there are supposed to be no handles and the doors open by remote?
4th: I would rather see the lines on the hood continue on to the front spoiler rather than suddenly diverge.
5th: As posted above the way the hard-top is removed leaves an awkward door corner sticking out, and there are a lot of panel lines to wax when the top is in place. I'm not sure about the square piece being attached to the hard-top.
6th: This can be seen in the largest rendering posted: On the rear of the car, where the roof curves down to meet the spoiler, (not sure what this "trunk" area is called on a car that is not front-engined) there are a lot of lines, I assume from different panels meeting each other. There are just a few too many lines for me.
Overall I'd consider the design of the car to be very good. Please bear in mind that I'm nitpicking, as you asked for input. I can certainly respect the amount of time that must have gone into visualizing and then realizing the shape of the car, as I did a bit of 3d modeling myself back in the day.

I hope this goes well and you find a buyer. There's nothing quite like getting paid for doing what you love.

Finally, I visited your website, and in the interest of appearing more professional to potential buyers, I'd suggest you fix a few grammatical errors. In the interest of space I won't post these here, but if you'd like, send me a PM and I will reference at least 9 minor-to-severe errors I've noticed.
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All valid points indeed

but with technological advances in drivetrains

vehicle designs and shapes of the next few decades are going to be weird

remember the movie demolition man most of those where prototypes and they where or are produced today and todays auto styling is alot similar too (and yes granted thats mainly due to aerodynamics) but the latest batch off crossover vehicles is going the sharp straight lines with the exception off Holden (australias GM) our prototypes look the same as todays commodore with a ute tray

Take the head lights of the ford indigo using some kind of halogen/laser spotlightbeam they are lucky to be 20mm high x very wide yet light the road like normal halogens those thin slits would look awesome in todays supercars instead of the lights they have now.

thats just one example i could rattle off hundreds more

and yes the MR lexus waqs a tricked up VW but only for the driving scenes of the movie

Toyotas acctual concept planned to use a new technologies still in the R&D fases so no working prototypes were available

Oh and half the cars in demolition man where kit cars too they used them simply for styling purposes to portry the futuristic look which is researched by consultants in the industry

which is exactly what the movie MR tried to do (but looking at thier other technologies Anti gravity or gravitational field manipulation devices would not have been that far fetched)so wheels and all associations with them would have been obselete.

and its highly possible we will be flying in 10 - 20 years as working prototypes of these vehicles also already exist your designs are by far most excellent and if produced today may sell for a year or two but to me that car looks like a ferrari and a lambo hoped into that machine of the movie the FLY and come out looking like that

Note if you can push bend or completely break the rules and stil achieve the results you need you will be picked up by a design team in no time
but as all ppl in the industry alot of education and learning are involved in getting a jod as an automotive designer (if you need any links or references to them Google search automotive design or exterior styling)

I am currently trying to work out 3Ds max and i know a little ACAD
so as soon as i can weild those tools like i can photoshop (which ive used since 1st MAC version) you will see my car Maybe you could do the styling as i beleive practicality is better suited to my vehicle so it will probably look like crap. But ive got hand draw pics and plans of it Everything is engineered by me Suspention VCU & Electornic hardware (Programing of VCU is one thing i cant yet do) Engine and driveline I have some far fetched ideas too Taht can be replaced with todays less advanced technology untill the development of these ideas is practiced and made comercially available.

Sorry for that i dont wish to knock you or your work (wish i could 3d model like u) im just providing my point of veiw in detail to someone with similar intrests to mine PLZ dont hate me for my opinion
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Supercarman:
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Boingo82:
While I have those qualities, I was merely trying to make a vague explanation becasue designing these cars in 3D takes a lot fo time, and I don't have tiem to teach anyone.
Who doesnt liek to brag a little? I'm not really taht arrogant though. I often joke about it...(like above)

I consider mechanical aspects, but do not design them. That requires a lot of research/training to put the acutal stuff in there. I did make sure htere was enough air for the engine, and large enough spaces for various components..liek the engine and steering stuff... Also, I made sure the top actually could fit as I described.

1. Mirrors...hmm... I'll think about it. About visibility...cameras. There are 4 places on this car for them, and you'd ghave to have atleast teh rear camera. 1 front, 2 on the mirrors, adn 1 in the back.

2. The A-pillar. Sorry, but I'm not very good with therminology. Elaborate.

3. Doors rotate forward....lemme check for an example.....Lamboghinni diablo. That style of movement. Not liek the McLaren F1. The doorss are electronic.

4. I understand....don't think I'm going to do it, but thanks anyways...

5. The tiny "squares" are 2 more panels that side back. So the top consists of 4 panels..2 main, and 2 small.

6. They're kind of part of the style. I'll think about it...maybe I'll figure soemthing out.

Zammo:
I'm not easily offended. You could tell me my stuff weas a worthless pile of smelly **** (I bleeped that) as long as you had a reason or good critique. I intended no offesne to you either. I only base my designs on current technology, or dechnology that WILL be in existence soon (research is near completion). I allows for new technology to be integreated into my cars, but am not dependent on them.

I didn't use spell check so live with it (lol)

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P.S. Sorry about 2 posts, just this forrum has so many categories, I didnt think it was a problem and that I'd probably be hitting 2 different groups of people. The otehr topic is colsed, but you can view what was said if U want....

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...323#post755323
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Just noticed the McLaren F1 style seating and steering wheel. I am not a fan of this design, and if you wanted someone to really make this car, I think it should be normal. I don't want to critisize such a great job though.
 
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