Clear this up for me PLEASE!!!

[Phat_Si]

Why do the JDM crx's say CR-X Vtec on them??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the JDM ones come with a ZC??? Zc's don't have vtec. What's going on??? Help me out!!!



- Phat_Si

[sastanley]

If it says VTEC then it is an Si-R with a b16a1....Notice Moppie's car. It is a hatch but still has the 'Civic VTEC' in the center section and an Si-R badge on the hatch lid.
The JDM Si was the recipient of the ZC (also some JDM Integra XSi's?? I believe of the same vintage)

I am sure someone else has more details but I HTH! -

[91zc]

Originally posted by sastanley
If it says VTEC then it is an Si-R with a b16a1....Notice Moppie's car. It is a hatch but still has the 'Civic VTEC' in the center section and an Si-R badge on the hatch lid.
The JDM Si was the recipient of the ZC (also some JDM Integra XSi's?? I believe of the same vintage)

I am sure someone else has more details but I HTH! -

88-89 JDM civic/crx Si-> came with the ZC

90-91 JDM civic/crx SiR-> came with the b16a hence the DOHC Vtec badging

And like stanley said some tegs of this generation came with the b16 DOHC Vtec. I can't remember which ones exactly. Hey Moppie can you provide us some insight here.

[IrishRex]

On the JDM's the badges are as follows

1.5x
Has "CR-X" on the red centre section and "1.5x" on the triangle on right hand side

Si
Has "CR-X" on the red centre section and "Si" on the triangle on right hand side

SiR
Has "CR-X" on the red centre section and "VTEC" in smaller letters direectly below it and "SiR" on the triangle on right hand side

John

[Moppie]

Ok, here we go,
Worshp can you please fill in any gaps.

CRX models:
13x Dual carb 1300cc, slow as a constipated horse fly
15x Dual carb 1500cc not slow, but not all that fast either
Si, ahhh, now were talking, Worshps CRX, DOHC Fuel injected ZC powered!
SiR, drooooool, B16a baby, DOHC VTEC!

Civic Models:
23x same as the CRX 13x
25x Ditto the CRX 15x
33x Ditto the 23x but a four door
35x Ditto the 15x but also a four door.
Si, avliable in Hatch and 4 door, same as the CRX Si.
SiR, my car! Hatch only, same as the CRX SiR

Then with in the 15x-35x models are xx and xl and special and limtied edition models that have differnce's that range from trim levels, to body mouldings, to some of the last Hatchs produced which used the Raised style hood form the SiR, and SiR style mags but still have the 1300 or 1500cc engine crapy brakes and suspension.
And all the CRXs made in 1991 have the raised SiR Style frount end, and are known as the face lifted models, The Si's Even retian the bonnet bulge nessacry on the old stlye bonnet, but purly comsmetic on the Face lifted ones. (and to tell them apart, but unforunatly it looks UGLY!)
I have never seen a SOHC injected EF Civic or CRX from Japan, but I believe some were sold over here, under the GL name badge?
(Worshp you know more about the Kiwi Hondas that I do)


There were to Integras with the B16a the Xsi and Rsi, the Rsi is ment to be lighter and does have tighter ratio Gear box.

[Setanta]

Moppie has pretty much summed it up. The Aussie GL was actually an export EFI 1600 from Japan, not domestic. It had the 1500 twin-carb on some markets, 1500 single carb on others. Body shape wasn't JDM, closer to the USDM, but RHD. It was replaced by the 1600 carbed and EFI in late 91 (very few EFI hit the Aussie shores though). One or two came out with the XT25 JDM raised bonnet.

Info on the JDM Civics and CRXs is here:

http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData/index.html

but you will need a translater such as the one at http://www.altavista.com to read it

[sastanley]

Originally posted by Moppie
Ok, here we go,

CRX models:
Si, ahhh, now were talking, Worshps CRX, DOHC Fuel injected ZC powered!

Civic Models:
Si, avliable in Hatch and 4 door same as the CRX Si.

Hell yeah! a stock ZC powered 4-door! That's what I'm talkin' about! :flash:

[91zc]

Originally posted by sastanley


Hell yeah! a stock ZC powered 4-door! That's what I'm talkin' about! :flash:

Hahahahahaha:hehehe:...yea, 4drs kick ass...especially with a zc or b16.

[Worshp]

Originally posted by Moppie
Ok, here we go,
Worshp can you please fill in any gaps.

CRX models:
13x Dual carb 1300cc, slow as a constipated horse fly
15x Dual carb 1500cc not slow, but not all that fast either
Si, ahhh, now were talking, Worshps CRX, DOHC Fuel injected ZC powered!
SiR, drooooool, B16a baby, DOHC VTEC!

Civic Models:
23x same as the CRX 13x
25x Ditto the CRX 15x
33x Ditto the 23x but a four door
35x Ditto the 15x but also a four door.
Si, avliable in Hatch and 4 door, same as the CRX Si.
SiR, my car! Hatch only, same as the CRX SiR

Then with in the 15x-35x models are xx and xl and special and limtied edition models that have differnce's that range from trim levels, to body mouldings, to some of the last Hatchs produced which used the Raised style hood form the SiR, and SiR style mags but still have the 1300 or 1500cc engine crapy brakes and suspension.
And all the CRXs made in 1991 have the raised SiR Style frount end, and are known as the face lifted models, The Si's Even retian the bonnet bulge nessacry on the old stlye bonnet, but purly comsmetic on the Face lifted ones. (and to tell them apart, but unforunatly it looks UGLY!)
I have never seen a SOHC injected EF Civic or CRX from Japan, but I believe some were sold over here, under the GL name badge?
(Worshp you know more about the Kiwi Hondas that I do)


There were to Integras with the B16a the Xsi and Rsi, the Rsi is ment to be lighter and does have tighter ratio Gear box.

This is correct, however I am pretty sure there was never a 13x version of the CRX in the JDM market.

There were also a few other models including the 36i which was the four door ZC powered version, plus the XT, which was pretty much a more luxury version of the 35X....there was also a very base version in 3 and 4 door called the 23L

I don't think we have enough space to list ALL the versions...there were sooooo many!!!

NZ new models included the GTi (which was SOHC D16A6 powered) which was the only injected version NZ ever got new....and the LX and L versions of both sedan and hatch. The CRX was never sold here NZ New.

[Trinity]

all i knwo is that i have the jdm civic vtec tailights :P

[Setanta]

LOL Trin - I'm not to sure about this, but my JDM SiR tail lights look just the same as your USDM ones

[Moppie]

Just to add a few more:

45 is the Civic Station wagon. (VERY RARE, Iv seen one)
55 is the Civic Shuttle, which was made up untill at least 1995. (the newest Iv seen was a '95)

[EF6_CR-X]

Howdy, I'm new here
from New Zealand as well

I just stumbled across this thread and thought I would respond, sorry for the length of this but thought I may be able to help as there seems to be a lot of incorrect information about JDM specs on the net.

This covers JDM models of the EF series (1988 to 1991)
(I didn't include the Civic Shuttle/Wagon but I can post them if you want)

CR-X
1.5X EF6 1493cc D15B 16v 105hp dual carb
Si EF7 1590cc DOHC ZC 16v 130hp Injected
*SiR EF8 1595cc DOHC VTEC B16A 16v 160hp Injected

Civic Hatch
23L EF1 1343cc D13B 16v 82hp single carb
23U EF1 1343cc D13B 16v 82hp single carb
25R EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 91hp single carb
25X EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 105hp dual carb
25XT EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 105hp dual carb
Si EF3 1590cc DOHC ZC 16v 130hp Injected
*SiR EF9 1595cc DOHC VTEC B16A 16v 160hp Injected


Civic 4 door
33U EF1 1343cc D13B 16v 82hp single carb
35M EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 91hp single carb
35X EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 100hp dual carb
35XT EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 100hp dual carb
36i EF3 1590cc SOHC ZC 16v 120hp Injected
RT-Si EF5 1590cc DOHC ZC 16v 130hp Injected 4WD
RTX EF5 1590cc SOHC ZC 16v 105hp dual carb 4WD
RTi EF5 1590cc SOHC ZC 16v 120hp Injected 4WD
Si EF3 1590cc DOHC ZC 16v 130hp Injected

*NOTE:
1.SiR models were only introduced in late 1989.
2.For the 1990-91 years, ALL Civic Hatch and CR-X models were fitted with the new front, not just the SiR (as is very commonly believed)

this data is very accurate and has been sourced from Honda Japan.

Peace.

[sastanley]

WTF is a Civic Shuttle? Is that like a taxi or small bus?

There were never many Civic Wagons sold here either...They just don't catch on real well...they were AWD, and tall, raised up, and ugly as hell...but I do think the 6-speed tranny would be awesome!! Wonder what the gear ratios of that thing were? It would fit a d-series engine wouldn't it? Didn't the 'Wagonvans' have a d16a6 ?

[91zc]

Mmmmmmmmm.....EF3 Si well not really but I can always dream. So yea what is a honda civic shuttle??