Some Baseball fans becoming idiots

[TexasF355F1]

Several times just within the last week, multiple player and umpires have been attacked by so called fans. There are talks of beginning to charge anyone who becomes violent with anyone on field as terrorists. I think its a good idea that could help subdue the madness. Or maybe instead of charging them as a terrorist we could just give them a couple blows to the face with the big splinter
http://reds.enquirer.com/2003/04/17/wwwumpfolo.html

[YogsVR4]

These people should be punished to the full extent of the law. They do announce what running onto the field costs in terms of fines and jail so it is probably disuading most.

The vendors there should also have the sense not to sell beer to someone is clearly wasted already. Might prevent all but a serious few who wouldn't be disuaded by anything.

[Prelewd]

Maybe have a homerun hitting contest with the disgruntled fan's balls.

[taranaki]

Don't let baseball end up like British soccer.Crowd activity at soccer matches became little more than contained rioting in the 1980's.Hundreds of police were needed at each game to segregate the two sets of 'supporters',and to protect the players.

Heavy steel fences around the pitch topped with razor wire were standard,and crowd control was little more than the containment of chaos.

The behaviour of the hooligan element gave rise to some dreadful incidents.

Hillsborough, overcrowding causes multiple deaths when fans are crushed against perimiter fence.....

http://ayup.co.uk/ref/ref0-9.html

Bradford,grandstand catches fire,fans are fenced in and unable to escape

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2523561.stm


Brussels,English and Italian fans clash in a poorly prepared Heysel Stadium.

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough...ry/heysel.shtm

Baseball must identify and severely punish instances of hooliganism.It's hard to believe that the Brits allowed the hooligan hordes to take over the terraces,for a while it appeared that soccer stadiums were little more than a battleground and the football had become irrelevant to the 'spectators'.If you wanted to see the game,you were better off watching at home on T.V.


Stamp it out viciously before it becomes common in sport.Jail those who intrude on the playing surface and assault players and match officials.If alcohol causes problems,don't sell it,and discourage people from bringing excessive amounts with them.

Sport is about entertainment.Let's keep it that way.

[Prelewd]

Originally posted by taranaki


Sport is about entertainment.Let's keep it that way.

Professional sports maybe. I'd like to think it's about proving that you are better or worse than someone in a particular event. Hooligans probably think the same thing about the country they are rooting for. Some think it's important to be better than someone else.

[jon@af]

I love how money is going to pay for things such as increased security at this events and it doesnt work. I would like to see one fan, one IDIOT jump onto a football field and even TRY to attack a player, that would be worth the money.

[sugarcaddy]

You know professional baseball (I said professional baseball-the guys that get paid to do it) is awfully boring. Someone out there needs to liven things up! I say let the fans go out there and get the shit beat out of them by the cops or players, makes for some sort of entertainment besides some overpriced yahoo scratching his balls waiting for a pop fly in the out field.

Scott

[TexasF355F1]

Of course baseball being boring is your opinion but I still don't think fans can just be let to run on the field it poses to much of a risk. You never know when someone has a gun on them. Hell, Sunday one player was hit in the back of the head with a cell phone that someone threw from the stands. Of course everyone around him ratted him out and he was arrested.

[tomlong]

Well maybe they can take the money for increased security out of the players rediculous salaries. Proffesional baseball sucks!(opinion) I prefer football or hockey! I still do not understand how someone can shovel dirt 8 hours a day for $10.00 an hour while these guys are playing a game they should love and making $10,000 an hour.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by tomlong
Well maybe they can take the money for increased security out of the players rediculous salaries. Proffesional baseball sucks!(opinion) I prefer football or hockey! I still do not understand how someone can shovel dirt 8 hours a day for $10.00 an hour while these guys are playing a game they should love and making $10,000 an hour.

give any man a shovel and he can shovel dirt.It takes years of dedication and hard work to become a top-class athlete.On top of that,you have to be marketable.In sport,as in politics,if you don't look the part,it doesn't matter how good you are,you'll never get the attention.The career of a top flight sportsman is incredibly short.A handful of years in the big money, a few more seasons as a former big name,and a few good endorsement contracts while the going is good,is the best anyony can hope for.The crowd may love you while you are at the top,but it's surprising how many just miss the superstar gravy train and end up broke and forgotten.

[Prelewd]

What taranaki says is true. I also find football boring, but that's just me. I'd take a baseball game over a football game anyday. I actually find all traditional sports boring (racing not included) unless I have someone to root for.

[tomlong]

give any man a shovel and he can shovel dirt.It takes years of dedication and hard work to become a top-class athlete.On top of that,you have to be marketable.In sport,as in politics,if you don't look the part,it doesn't matter how good you are,you'll never get the attention.The career of a top flight sportsman is incredibly short.A handful of years in the big money, a few more seasons as a former big name,and a few good endorsement contracts while the going is good,is the best anyony can hope for.The crowd may love you while you are at the top,but it's surprising how many just miss the superstar gravy train and end up broke and forgotten

So you are saying that paying a pitcher 250 million over five years is fair pay for someone who is playing a game? If that is the case than doctors and nurses saving lives should be making a billion a year.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by tomlong


So you are saying that paying a pitcher 250 million over five years is fair pay for someone who is playing a game? If that is the case than doctors and nurses saving lives should be making a billion a year.

That pitcher is generating huge interest in the sport,and big T.V.audiences are worth big bucks to those who sell advertising.The fact that he isn't actually changing anything is meaningless,he's generating a huge income for someone,so he's an asset worth retaining.The second people stop watching him,he ceases to be an asset,and is dumped back into obscurity calling games on a third rate local channel for as long as people still remember who he was.

[tomlong]

That pitcher is generating huge interest in the sport,and big T.V.audiences are worth big bucks to those who sell advertising.The fact that he isn't actually changing anything is meaningless,he's generating a huge income for someone,so he's an asset worth retaining.The second people stop watching him,he ceases to be an asset,and is dumped back into obscurity calling games on a third rate local channel for as long as people still remember who he was.

I understand that this is why he gets paid this much, but I do not think it is right nor fair when there are tons of people in this world who do nuch more to benefit society and are forced to live paycheck to paycheck.

[TexasF355F1]

Originally posted by tomlong


So you are saying that paying a pitcher 250 million over five years is fair pay for someone who is playing a game? If that is the case than doctors and nurses saving lives should be making a billion a year.

It seems to me your saying that just baseball players are over paid. I hope that's not what you're saying b/c any athlete from any sport is over paid. I like baseball, have all my life, played year round from 5 till i was 13 and wish I never quit. The only reason athletes get so much is b/c its part of the whole entertainment industry and if we didn't watch they wouldn't get paid.
And a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck is caused by their own selves. Instead of trying to save what they can from a check, they spend it. And it is 100% possible for anyone from any level of income lifestyle to move up. They just have to want to get there and try and understand how to save money.